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#2453492 Varlamov Arrested

Posted by sibiriak on 13 November 2013 - 07:20 PM

Pick a news station, whether its cnn or fox or msnbc or any other news station that you watch, neither one of them would give credence to such a report which was part of my statement. It would be reported but dismissed as a conspiracy theory even if they cover it 24/7. They would not keep passing it off as fact just another conspiracy theory and the person saying it would get clobbered non-stop. And please In the future if you decide to quote me don't just pick out the statements that suit you, quote the entire post in context.

If that is directed at me, I did quote your post in its entirety, and responded to the part that was a new argument, while the rest was just a stronger restatement of your previous argument.

I said all I wanted to on this issue. I can't add anything useful. See ya around :)

#2452797 Varlamov Arrested

Posted by sibiriak on 11 November 2013 - 07:21 PM

It wasn't just one and when the main Russian news station keeps repeating it and doesn't discount the comment, it gives it credence wether it's one moron saying it or everyone. And dude I was born there so I have plenty of perspective about what the Russian government or the government controlled media say.

Noone of consequence repeated this rubbish, and nobody takes (or should take) Perviy kanal seriously.

And as you might have guessed from my nick, I am also far from home.

#2435311 Datsyuk Robbed

Posted by sibiriak on 06 September 2013 - 05:59 PM

According to the Russian papers it was mostly cash, nothing hockey related. Some other flats in the same building were burgled as well.

Datsyuk was at the Russian Olympic camp at the time. Ekaterinburg police better catch the bastards, if they can't even solve a crime against Datsyuk, what are they good for?

#2403711 WCQF Game 7 GDT - Red Wings 3 @ Ducks 2 - (DET wins series, 4-3)

Posted by sibiriak on 13 May 2013 - 12:57 AM

Nice win :)

Great poise, especially from the less experienced guys, absolutely awesome work rate, stellar goaltending.

Chicago is still a favorite, but they will have to really work for it. I'm much more optimistic about facing the Hawks after tonight's game.

#2367199 3/9 GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blue Jackets 3

Posted by sibiriak on 09 March 2013 - 06:32 PM

Watch Babcock go right back to Abdelkader-Datsyuk-Cleary despite not scoring a single goal tonight. He's deliberately tanking right now.

If he were tanking, he would have pretended to change up the lines for the 3rd period of a 0-3 game, to get some scoring, but he would have put Datsyuk and Zetterberg together with some scrub, like Abdelkader, to make sure they don't score. Oh wait...

#2339586 Red Wings 2013 schedule

Posted by sibiriak on 12 January 2013 - 08:40 PM

With 48 games they could have played 1 vs every Eastern team, 2 vs own Conf and 3 vs own division, with 1 more game against somebody, a traditional rival or division rival or Columbus :)

Instead, its West only and not even the equal number of games vs own division. What genius came up with that one?

#2339510 Kovalchuk says he may stay in KHL

Posted by sibiriak on 12 January 2013 - 01:26 PM

On the surface the KHL is stating they'll honor contracts, underneath they're going to be a sly as possible.

Either they honor the contracts or they don't. There's not much room for "slyness" there. If there are legal loopholes in NHL contracts, which I very much doubt, then exploiting them is fair game. Just ask Bettman.

It's all largely academic now, the only NHLer still left there is Visnovsky. And it seems he would rather hang them up then play for the Islanders.

#2339504 Pavel Datsyuk Penalty Shot Goal

Posted by sibiriak on 12 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

Here's Pavel's KHL All-Star penalty shots. He won that event, by the way.

#2337159 Yakupov VS Cherry

Posted by sibiriak on 31 December 2012 - 01:46 PM

I'd like to thank the Russians for their clean play.  Those 2 power play goals as a result of the Russian player cheapshot really helped Canada in their win today.

Well, McKinnon got away with a crosscheck in the face today. Shalunov got 5+game+extra game for a similar hit against the Slovaks. Sometimes the refs see it and sometimes not. See you in the final, if you can beat the US again that is.

#2331455 Russians Possibly Staying In KHL After Lockout

Posted by sibiriak on 12 October 2012 - 07:19 PM

KHL is not as good as the NHL, but is ways better than AHL or any other league.
And a salary that's 60% of NHL is actually a net after taxes. If you take into account all the federal ,state, and local taxes that the NHL players pay, the salaries are actually about equal. And they can play at home and will have no problem getting permission to play at the Worlds and the Olympics.

#2331327 Russians Possibly Staying In KHL After Lockout

Posted by sibiriak on 11 October 2012 - 02:37 PM

How can Ovi stay in the KHL when he has that monster of a contract? Will Dynamo buy it out?

He is contracted to play for the Caps in exchange for 9.7 mil. (IIRC) per year. If the Caps won't pay him the agreed salary, why should he be bound by the contract?

#2331074 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by sibiriak on 09 October 2012 - 12:27 PM

You seem to keep assuming that I am ignorant of the supposed benefits of labor unions. I don't believe this is a matter of education, but rather a difference of opinion on the supposed benefits of labor unions in general, and if those benefits can be obtained through other means that are not restricting to running a successful business. Here is what I said in full:

... now, I did not realize that labor laws force acceptance of a union in order to institute something like a salary cap. Whether a salary cap was the only option to address the problem in question is a debatable matter. That aside, it is a very true statement that we would not have a lockout currently if the union didn't exist. Ergo, if your only goal is to watch hockey and you couldn't give a crap about the politicking... you should support dissolving the labor union.

I think that you are being deliberately obtuse, to avoid admitting that your idea of dissolving the NHLPA is totally clueless.

There's NOTHING about an NHL team that is even close to "free market". If you offered the NHL owners an option to get rid of all non "free-market" elements in their business, they would run you out of town on a rail.

Here's how a typical NHL team operates.
1. Their arena is built with all or majority government financing, with few exceptions (most of them in Canada). "Free market" would force the owners to shell out their own money.
2. When they don't own the arena, they are usually paying subsidized rent etc. Local law enforcement usually helps to provide security in and around the arena, while the team never pays full cost of that.
3. Their local taxes are way lower then for any other business, when they pay any.
4. Their employees can not choose their place of employment and have to play for the team that drafted them until they are more than halfway into their careers. In a "free-market" there can not be a draft or restricted free agency.
5. They can collude with other owners to set limits on employee compensation and labor conditions. Again, in a "free-market" that would not be possible.
6. They can prevent any other team from coming into "their" geographically (very broadly) defined market. Try that in a "free-market".
7. In a "free-market", the owners couldn't renege on the already signed contracts short of declaring bankruptcy, which is what they are trying to do now.
8. In a non "free-market", the players can get together to defend their interests, just like the owners are now free to collectively conspire to limit the players compensation, In a "free-market", neither could occur.

You can not pick and choose what elements of a "free-market" you want to have and which you want to get rid of. It's an all or nothing deal. So in real life, given the existing laws, if there is no union, then the salary cap, the draft, the RFA, waivers draft all have to go.

In a "free-market", there wouldn't be a players' union, but the league would have gone bankrupt years ago, because the owners repeatedly demonstrated their inability to stick to their budgets when signing players. Again, before 2004, when there was no salary cap and no guaranteed players share of the revenue, the salaries rose very fast and the players share of the revenue went up to 70%+ just before the last lockout. That was not the union doing. That was the owners signing ridiculous contracts.

#2330958 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by sibiriak on 08 October 2012 - 01:43 PM

Without a union, there would be no lockout. Without a union, there wouldn't have been the need to negotiate a salary cap... and therefore there wouldn't have been a lockout last time.

Owners spending more than they can afford is a complicated topic, but without question the current CBA largely contributes to it. Without a union, there is no need for a CBA. If you believe the core problem with the leagues finances is rich clubs driving up the players salaries... how does the union solve that problem? I would argue that the NHLPA contributes to that problem, through forcing a CBA.

You really need to read back this thread. Your misconceptions were exhaustively addressed earlier.

In short, without the union, what the owners are doing would be illegal. They would have no way of getting out of the already signed player contracts, without going to court and paying penalties for breach of contract or declaring bankruptcy.

Without a salary cap the owners would (and did) spend much more on salaries relative to revenue then they do now.

Without the pro sports antitrust law exemption, (that is if they had to operate like any other industry in America) it would have been illegal for the owners to consult with each other on hiring/salary decisions, let alone bargain as a single unit.

And lastly, the union's existence has nothing whatsoever to do with the owners spending insane amounts of money to get free agents. If you run a restaurant and hire a famous chef for $$ millions, but your revenue stream isn't enough to pay him, you don't get to leach off of more successful/better-run restaurants, nor can you lock out the chef and force him to accept lower salary. The owners do not and absolutely don't want to live under real free market conditions. They get the best of both worlds now.

#2330869 Z basically says Bettman should be fired

Posted by sibiriak on 06 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

Contracts are not etched in stone folks. I'm a contractor myself and see modifications and changes to them in the middle of the contract period all the time. Just sayin'.


You need a better contract lawyer. :)
NHL contracts can not be modified without changing the CBA. They are etched in stone.

#2330632 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by sibiriak on 03 October 2012 - 10:23 PM

I believe its less about pride and self respect. If there was pride and self respect on the line, the players association would have been negotiating in January. If pride and self respect were on the line, then the players association wouldn't be playing the PR role to a T. Lets face facts here, Don Fehr dragged his feet to the start of negotiations, then he drug his feet before he put forward his initial proposal. Fehr wants there to be revenue sharing, and I can understand why the owners don't want the deal based on what revenues could be. Now, the NHL has given the players a new proposal, and Don Fehr won't "play ping pong" and doesn't believe he needs to give the next proposal.

Lets face facts here, the owners are asking for too much. By locking the players out, they are damaging the game of hockey and future revenues. At the same time, and others have said, they feel they have no choice.

I know I have said it before, but I will say it again....

Both sides are in the wrong here. This should have never resulted in a lockout. All the owners have to do is come up a little from their demands, and all the players have to do is come down a little from their demands. As many have said here, its a game of chicken. Who will blink first?

I am not waiting around for either side to blink. Both sides can go jump off a cliff.

You know, the sooner you let go of an idea that owners and (to a somewhat lesser degree) players are anything but two rational economic actors that behave strategically in order to maximize their respective incomes, the less nerves you will burn up thinking about this. They do not and are not really expected to care about the fans feelings, as long as the fans keep buying tix, and otherwise spending money on NHL product.. And as the 3 previous work stoppages have amply demonstrated, we fans are really that dumb and will grumble a bit, but come back and support the NHL, whenever they decide to play hockey again.
So your idea, that with different negotiating teams and/or more time, the compromise would have been found, is not plausible. Personalities and negotiating tactics are determined by the strategic goals, not the other way around. In other words, the players hired Fehr to do exactly what he is doing, and the owners pay Bettman to do exactly what he does. If either side wanted a compromise, they would have behaved differently.
From what we've seen so far, the owners are trying to crush the PA yet again, and the players are determined to not be crushed like it happened the last time. At the very least, the players want to make the owners victory so costly, that the owners may hesitate to do this again in the future. Both sides are following thought out strategies, and I don't see a quick resolution, unless something fundamental changes.