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In Topic: [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

10 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

Anyone find it the least bit odd that the league keeps shooting down the NHLPA's proposals with lightning speed?


Methinks this lockout is not about what we think it's about, but rather, Something Else....

Yeah, interesting how the owners can identify that something specific is not included in the offer, and reject it based on that. That'd be like going to buy a Ferrari at the Ferrari dealership, and the salesman said "Here is a great Volkswagen." You mean you'd need a day or two to discuss the Volkswagen with everyone you know before saying "Uh. I asked for a Ferrari. No Volkswagen."

In Topic: [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

10 December 2012 - 09:13 AM

Boy, it sure is easy to tell other people what to do with their money, since it's not yours.

Let's look at a not-too hypothetical situation:
Pretend that the NHLPA caves in and agrees to a new CBA now, based solely on the last offer "taken off the table" (Uncle Gary = bully) with nothing else negotiated.
The figure that I have seen bandied about that is in contention is one hundred million dollars.
If an agreement was reached, where would that untouched money go?
Do you think the League would lower the price of tickets?
Do you think the League would lower the cost of signing up to NHL Network?
Do you think the League would lower the price of the "Reebok Detroit Red Wings Infant Faux Layer Jersey & Pant Set" ($31.99...yikes!)?
Do you think the League would hand every fan a ten-dollar voucher the next time they visit a game this decade?

Just like Uncle Gary would say, the answers to the above: No, no, no, no.
I smell quite bonus from the owners coming from this untouched money.

If the owners agreed to the player's side of 100 million dollars, would any of what you just mentioned happen? Not on your life.

In Topic: [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

07 December 2012 - 10:32 AM

And that's the problem. The owners are making demands and throwing a fit if the PA didn't accept it. The PA should have just said, fine, we'll give you contract term and variance, we want our $389M in make-whole. Would that have been fair then?

That's the thing. At some point, there has to be a line where you say "This is as far as I can come," and that's what's happened here, per Daly, I believe.

Fehr is the one that blew things up this round. According to Adrian Dater, a player involved said that the players were ready to take the latest offer to a vote with all the players, and Fehr said not to, because they were going to get a better offer. I hope that that's true, but I am betting this pushed the more moderate owners into the hardline camp.

In Topic: [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

07 December 2012 - 09:27 AM

Donald Fehr in a rare candid photo from his presser yesterday.
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In Topic: [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

03 December 2012 - 04:41 PM

Fixed it for you.

I'm sure it actually doesn't mean much, but I'd love to take this move as a sign that players are unhappy with how he has handled these negotiations. If you're actually an asset in negotiating an agreement, you typically don't agree to remove yourself from the process.

Of course the players share the blame, but Fehr is greatly responsible for handling and setting the tone of the CBA negotiations. As NHLPA Head, everything ultimately is channeled through him. And through his actions, the tone he's set again and again to the owners is "F You."

There you go. You missed the other half of your post.