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In Topic: 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

20 July 2014 - 10:17 AM

The Red Wings have announced the dates for the 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp. Does anyone have advice for attending the events, and is anyone thinking of going to either of the events this year?





Karate Chop Ken Holland in the face and ask him what the f*** his problem is

In Topic: Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

17 July 2014 - 08:45 PM

I am not a huge fan of Babcock the last few years, but that was a great interview today.  It didn't sound like he was willing to commit to Cleary and accepted they may have dead money on the books.  He also sounded confident about an extension.  

In Topic: Tom Renney could be leaving, too.

11 July 2014 - 05:34 AM

Guess he isn't part of the "boys" club enough to just get boat loads of money for being a worthless piece of s***, like our GM or a few of our players. 

In Topic: What is the plan with Mrazek?

11 July 2014 - 05:31 AM

I'm sure it's to stay in the minors while we re-sign Dominic Hasek to a 5 year NTC

In Topic: Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

11 July 2014 - 05:22 AM


Getting upset over the NTC is just looking for an excuse to complain. We all agree it is not a good signing. We get it. The NTC is a minor detail that Cleary asked for to prevent ending up somewhere like Buffalo. It isn't a big deal. He wouldn't get traded regardless. 


I do think calling for Holland to be fired over this is overreacting. You'd think he traded Hank and Dats for a 5th round pick with what's being said about him. If Cleary has a bounce back year, then great. If not, no big deal. His career as a Wing would come to an end. No harm done. But some are acting as if Holland blatantly passed on guys like Vanek or Richards just so he can sign Cleary instead. Doesn't work that way, folks. 

Seriously what the f*** are you talking about? Losing Cleary was addition by subtraction, the fact that this piece of s*** is taking both money from the cap and a roster spot from a more deserving player is exactly why Holland should be fired.  Not to mention the countless other terrible moves he's made the last 4 years. The NTC is just icing on the cake.


Just curious as to what you'd do different? Throw huge money at UFA's and handicap the team cap-wise? Trade away all our best players to get a few years of lottery picks, and hope we luck out and get future superstars? Trade all our prospects for impact players so we can be a great team for 4-5 years then just have to go through all of this all over again? The team spent the last few years stocking up on young talent. We are now beginning to see the benefit from that. 


Sure there were some frustrating signings along the way like Sammy, and this one here today. I'm not saying Holland has been perfect. No GM in this league is. But management as a whole has done a nice job of building lots of depth in the prospect pool that will give this team a chance to stay competitive for years to come. These kids won't become big time players overnight. It takes time. 


I'm not here singing Holland's praises. I'm just saying that based on his overall performance as a whole, people are blowing it all way out of proportion. I get that we all have our own opinions. The Cleary signing gives many people another reason to let loose on him. But when you take a deep breath, step back and look at the franchise as a whole, it's going in a pretty good direction. Hardly a nose dive some make it out to be. One year of Cleary doesn't suddenly derail that. 


Sincerely, A guy who dislikes the Cleary signing

Really?  So we haven't been relevant since 2009? How much good faith do you give someone before they are in the hot seat, I think 5 years of not doing the right moves is enough of a sample size to call for changes.  What did he do to fix losing Rafalski?  what about Lidstrom? Or Stuart? Oh at least he brought in Bert, Sammy, Tootoo, Cleary x2, Coliacavo, Williams, White, Commodore......Yep you are right, we should all swing from Hollands nuts because he f****** managed to put a team together a decade ago, in an entirely different league.  Most fans do not pay to see there team bring in players because they are bffs with thef****** GM, they pay to have the best product available, and I question any fan who would ask otherwise out of their team.