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#2465242 Can't remember the last time we were this pathetic

Posted by ben_usmc on 16 December 2013 - 12:24 PM

I don't think Holland is the problem. No one could have foreseen how truly bad Weiss, Samuelsson, Cleary, and Quincey have been. Sammy has had success here and elsewhere. Cleary's success in the playoffs seems to be purely a fluke. Quincey had success everywhere but here. Weiss was Florida's #1 star, yet he's nothing here. IMO those are the glaring problems and they seem to be rooted in the system being a problem or our pro scouts being a problem.

That is buls***! Weiss some complained, but I will grant you nobody thought the signing was this bad.  Sammy, Q, and especially Cleary.  Everyone know they sucked and were terrible choices from the very beginning.  The worst of all being Cleary.  Get rid of those 3, make Bert the player coming off the bench.  Those actions alone will be massive additions by subtractions. 

#2464743 12/14 GDT : Penguins 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by ben_usmc on 15 December 2013 - 04:51 AM

Yes I can't believe they've been scratching Zetterberg, Helm, Howard and Dekeyser lately. Now I hear Abby's getting pulled too?

I love the the way this team will look when healthy.


is my guess at a post- trade deadline lineup without injuries. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but Babcock seems to slowly be getting over his Cleary love affair and Bert will probably play his way out of the lineup by that point. The only question is Weiss but he could possibly be shuffled to the 4th line and Helm on 2nd if he keeps playing like he has been.

Wow what a stupid response.  

#2464669 12/14 GDT : Penguins 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by ben_usmc on 14 December 2013 - 10:41 PM

This season is very depressing.  It's not so much that I believe this team is bad or won't make the playoffs, but I simply just do not like the make up of this team, I dislike some of the players, the attitude, the current lines, and the GM's moves. I hope they start to pull there heads out there asses and actually ice the best team we can. 

#2460295 Hull "Avery doesn't get to talk to Sakic"

Posted by ben_usmc on 03 December 2013 - 09:05 AM

Can't ever hate on Sakic

#2459412 11/29 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Islanders 0

Posted by ben_usmc on 29 November 2013 - 09:51 PM

Hopefully they abuse Ottawa

#2458997 11/27 GDT: Bruins 1 at Red Wings 6

Posted by ben_usmc on 28 November 2013 - 10:23 AM

How I felt watching this game

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#2453798 Cleary in, Tatar out against Caps

Posted by ben_usmc on 15 November 2013 - 02:30 AM

Marsh: Do you know something about big business (NHL) decisions?

Babcock: Oh yes, roster decisions are a big deal -->

Phase 1: Play my bff's despite effort

Phase 2: ???

Phase 3: Points?


In all seriousness I think Tatar and Nyquist are showing a lot of class, I am sure some other players would have told their manager to make it clear, that they are open for a trade.

For sure, it's like they have to mind f*** the kids and if they can withstand.Then they are safe for the next 15-30 years. 

#2451503 Tootoo Waived

Posted by ben_usmc on 06 November 2013 - 11:58 PM


All GMs make mistakes. Fortunately, all of the questionable 2012 contracts (sans that of Tootoo, who could be bought out if necessary) will expire this summer, as will that of Cleary.

but how the f*** do you make a mistake an entire fanbase can see before hand?

Sortof off topic but ive been checking out Tomas Jurco n the kid looks insane. Only 2 pts behind Nyquist on the griffins. Anyone have any idea when he'll crack the lineup? Next season?

Jurco was insane last year in the playoffs too.  Dude seriously had the puck following him.


You people would honestly rather have Tootoo on this team than Cleary?

Shows that Babcock and management believed Emmerton and Tootoo were the bottom of the totem and I would agree with them.


Think the forwards will look like this in a few weeks

yes.  Tootoo is a better hockey player than Cleary in every facet of the game. I am well aware of Cleary playing on the PP/PK but he is still just a blackhole of talent.  He makes anyone on his line worse. 

#2451502 Chicago fans steal players helmet off head and dump beer on him

Posted by ben_usmc on 06 November 2013 - 11:51 PM

Wish the players would have started swinging into the crowd like they did back in the day

#2451205 11/4 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Jets 4

Posted by ben_usmc on 05 November 2013 - 12:08 AM

Dream lineup without upgrading through trades



We need Nyquist!! On two other notes, Jurco is looking good in the AHL as well and when Cleary going to go on "LTIR" like Sammy and Mule have when consistently playing like s***.

#2449372 Edler trade proposal

Posted by ben_usmc on 31 October 2013 - 11:41 PM

Smith is lebda 2.0

Watch us trade him and his career end

There is no way he is as bad as Lebda

#2448654 These aren't the Vets you are looking for...

Posted by ben_usmc on 29 October 2013 - 10:29 AM

Broke Back Bert is the only one of the older Babcock crushes that is actually some what producing on the ice. 

#2448266 10/26 GDT Rangers 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by ben_usmc on 26 October 2013 - 11:02 PM

f*** you Ken Holland for signing Dan Cleary

#2447714 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by ben_usmc on 25 October 2013 - 01:24 AM


Miller is good with proper linemates and in the proper context, as is Abdelkader. Their thus-far poor performance is not Holland's fault, nor is that of Stephen Weiss. Cleary is atrocious, though I don't think anyone could have anticipated him being this bad. Samuelsson's contract is not a problem right now, but his presence on the roster is.


That said, this team has the tools it needs to win.

buls***, a lot of us did

#2447591 10/23 GDT: Senators 6 at Red Wings 1

Posted by ben_usmc on 24 October 2013 - 08:36 AM

We all notice Franzen when he plays center. Not sure what his face-off stats are, but if they're decent work him there. I think Babcock wants his offense but that's not happening anyway so put him in a defensive role for now.

I know this is at least the 2nd year where people have been clamoring for more Mule as a center.  Last year when he was center he was just as a effective, of course if it works Babcock says f*** ti.