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#2458997 11/27 GDT: Bruins 1 at Red Wings 6

Posted by ben_usmc on 28 November 2013 - 10:23 AM

How I felt watching this game

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#2453798 Cleary in, Tatar out against Caps

Posted by ben_usmc on 15 November 2013 - 02:30 AM

Marsh: Do you know something about big business (NHL) decisions?

Babcock: Oh yes, roster decisions are a big deal -->

Phase 1: Play my bff's despite effort

Phase 2: ???

Phase 3: Points?


In all seriousness I think Tatar and Nyquist are showing a lot of class, I am sure some other players would have told their manager to make it clear, that they are open for a trade.

For sure, it's like they have to mind f*** the kids and if they can withstand.Then they are safe for the next 15-30 years. 

#2451503 Tootoo Waived

Posted by ben_usmc on 06 November 2013 - 11:58 PM


All GMs make mistakes. Fortunately, all of the questionable 2012 contracts (sans that of Tootoo, who could be bought out if necessary) will expire this summer, as will that of Cleary.

but how the f*** do you make a mistake an entire fanbase can see before hand?

Sortof off topic but ive been checking out Tomas Jurco n the kid looks insane. Only 2 pts behind Nyquist on the griffins. Anyone have any idea when he'll crack the lineup? Next season?

Jurco was insane last year in the playoffs too.  Dude seriously had the puck following him.


You people would honestly rather have Tootoo on this team than Cleary?

Shows that Babcock and management believed Emmerton and Tootoo were the bottom of the totem and I would agree with them.


Think the forwards will look like this in a few weeks

yes.  Tootoo is a better hockey player than Cleary in every facet of the game. I am well aware of Cleary playing on the PP/PK but he is still just a blackhole of talent.  He makes anyone on his line worse. 

#2451502 Chicago fans steal players helmet off head and dump beer on him

Posted by ben_usmc on 06 November 2013 - 11:51 PM

Wish the players would have started swinging into the crowd like they did back in the day

#2451205 11/4 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Jets 4

Posted by ben_usmc on 05 November 2013 - 12:08 AM

Dream lineup without upgrading through trades



We need Nyquist!! On two other notes, Jurco is looking good in the AHL as well and when Cleary going to go on "LTIR" like Sammy and Mule have when consistently playing like s***.

#2449372 Edler trade proposal

Posted by ben_usmc on 31 October 2013 - 11:41 PM

Smith is lebda 2.0

Watch us trade him and his career end

There is no way he is as bad as Lebda

#2448654 These aren't the Vets you are looking for...

Posted by ben_usmc on 29 October 2013 - 10:29 AM

Broke Back Bert is the only one of the older Babcock crushes that is actually some what producing on the ice. 

#2448266 10/26 GDT Rangers 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by ben_usmc on 26 October 2013 - 11:02 PM

f*** you Ken Holland for signing Dan Cleary

#2447714 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by ben_usmc on 25 October 2013 - 01:24 AM


Miller is good with proper linemates and in the proper context, as is Abdelkader. Their thus-far poor performance is not Holland's fault, nor is that of Stephen Weiss. Cleary is atrocious, though I don't think anyone could have anticipated him being this bad. Samuelsson's contract is not a problem right now, but his presence on the roster is.


That said, this team has the tools it needs to win.

buls***, a lot of us did

#2447591 10/23 GDT: Senators 6 at Red Wings 1

Posted by ben_usmc on 24 October 2013 - 08:36 AM

We all notice Franzen when he plays center. Not sure what his face-off stats are, but if they're decent work him there. I think Babcock wants his offense but that's not happening anyway so put him in a defensive role for now.

I know this is at least the 2nd year where people have been clamoring for more Mule as a center.  Last year when he was center he was just as a effective, of course if it works Babcock says f*** ti. 

#2446983 10/21 GDT: Sharks 1 @ Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by ben_usmc on 21 October 2013 - 11:19 PM

Tatar and Tootoo  were noticeable out there, in a positive way

#2444035 Fight ends with on-ice seizure

Posted by ben_usmc on 13 October 2013 - 07:17 PM

Or you could keep those necessary elements while just banning the unnecessary element; fighting. Skating on ice is an integral part of gameplay in ice hockey. Fighting is not.

I get that you're just playing devil's advocate.
But it's only a matter of time before someone says, "people will still get hurt from hits, so you want to ban hitting too?" I hate those arguments because all they do is obscure the point, which should be the minimization of UNNECESSARY risk. Hockey will always be dangerous. I just don't see the benefit of making it more dangerous than it needs to be.

I don't believe in banning fighting, nor do I have a ton of sympathy for people with injuries sustained from years of being a pro athlete.  Most of these sports have been around for almost 100 years, if you do not realize the dangers before receiving a pay check you're already brain damaged.  When a solider has long term knee problems from years of running, or a fire fighter is burned while putting out a fire, nobody is shocked.  These guys are paid an insane amount of money to play a sport. I'm not going to cry for them because they are putting there bodies out there as a result. 

#2442576 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by ben_usmc on 07 October 2013 - 07:32 PM

Tatar is benched for Thursday against Phoenix.


Played 9 fourth line minutes (lowest on the team) with zero power play time.  Dan Cleary, however, managed to trip himself 4.5 times with nearly 15 minutes of ice time.


When asked what Dan Cleary brings to the team, Cleary apologist Helene St. James said

"Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 6h

@Walravenjordan: @HeleneStJames name 1 thing Dan Cleary brings besides being "Good Locker Room Guy"?”/2nd leading playoff scorer, 1st v CHI"


A very relevant point as we are still in the playoffs and this is still June.

even more relevant if he you know added context.  Cleary 2 goals were literally bounced off of his body by Datsyuk, and 1 was an empty netter, then what 6 secondary assists..... Unless of course points tell the whole story I guess St. James is saying Cleary>Datsyuk, because you know points mean everything.  How about the 40x  Cleary just losses the puck on the boards, or falls and gives the puck up?


please someone sign into twitter and call this person a ****

#2436009 Report: Cleary to sign with PHI, 3 yrs, $2.75m/yr, NTC

Posted by ben_usmc on 12 September 2013 - 09:37 AM


Have you seen me disagree with this?


That's a bit harsh. I'm mostly worried about whom he's going to replace.


Hopefully it's a contract that can be buried easily in the minors if need be.


You know I would normally say that's a bit harsh but I am dead serious. Any GM that feels Cleary is a productive member of a SC team obviously has lost it and should no longer have control, and any coach who would play such a useless player on the top 2 lines or even dress him should no longer be leading a team.  What's next Cleary to play on the Olympic team too? 

#2435899 Report: Cleary to sign with PHI, 3 yrs, $2.75m/yr, NTC

Posted by ben_usmc on 11 September 2013 - 06:00 PM

f*** you Dan Cleary just leave already!  If Ken Holland resigns Cleary, he immediately should be fired, I'm not exaggerating.