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#2446983 10/21 GDT: Sharks 1 @ Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by ben_usmc on 21 October 2013 - 11:19 PM

Tatar and Tootoo  were noticeable out there, in a positive way

#2444035 Fight ends with on-ice seizure

Posted by ben_usmc on 13 October 2013 - 07:17 PM

Or you could keep those necessary elements while just banning the unnecessary element; fighting. Skating on ice is an integral part of gameplay in ice hockey. Fighting is not.

I get that you're just playing devil's advocate.
But it's only a matter of time before someone says, "people will still get hurt from hits, so you want to ban hitting too?" I hate those arguments because all they do is obscure the point, which should be the minimization of UNNECESSARY risk. Hockey will always be dangerous. I just don't see the benefit of making it more dangerous than it needs to be.

I don't believe in banning fighting, nor do I have a ton of sympathy for people with injuries sustained from years of being a pro athlete.  Most of these sports have been around for almost 100 years, if you do not realize the dangers before receiving a pay check you're already brain damaged.  When a solider has long term knee problems from years of running, or a fire fighter is burned while putting out a fire, nobody is shocked.  These guys are paid an insane amount of money to play a sport. I'm not going to cry for them because they are putting there bodies out there as a result. 

#2442576 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by ben_usmc on 07 October 2013 - 07:32 PM

Tatar is benched for Thursday against Phoenix.


Played 9 fourth line minutes (lowest on the team) with zero power play time.  Dan Cleary, however, managed to trip himself 4.5 times with nearly 15 minutes of ice time.


When asked what Dan Cleary brings to the team, Cleary apologist Helene St. James said

"Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 6h

@Walravenjordan: @HeleneStJames name 1 thing Dan Cleary brings besides being "Good Locker Room Guy"?”/2nd leading playoff scorer, 1st v CHI"


A very relevant point as we are still in the playoffs and this is still June.

even more relevant if he you know added context.  Cleary 2 goals were literally bounced off of his body by Datsyuk, and 1 was an empty netter, then what 6 secondary assists..... Unless of course points tell the whole story I guess St. James is saying Cleary>Datsyuk, because you know points mean everything.  How about the 40x  Cleary just losses the puck on the boards, or falls and gives the puck up?


please someone sign into twitter and call this person a ****

#2436009 Report: Cleary to sign with PHI, 3 yrs, $2.75m/yr, NTC

Posted by ben_usmc on 12 September 2013 - 09:37 AM


Have you seen me disagree with this?


That's a bit harsh. I'm mostly worried about whom he's going to replace.


Hopefully it's a contract that can be buried easily in the minors if need be.


You know I would normally say that's a bit harsh but I am dead serious. Any GM that feels Cleary is a productive member of a SC team obviously has lost it and should no longer have control, and any coach who would play such a useless player on the top 2 lines or even dress him should no longer be leading a team.  What's next Cleary to play on the Olympic team too? 

#2435899 Report: Cleary to sign with PHI, 3 yrs, $2.75m/yr, NTC

Posted by ben_usmc on 11 September 2013 - 06:00 PM

f*** you Dan Cleary just leave already!  If Ken Holland resigns Cleary, he immediately should be fired, I'm not exaggerating. 

#2431734 Tootoo back to Nashville?

Posted by ben_usmc on 28 July 2013 - 07:01 PM

Of course we should keep Sammy who couldn't stay healthy at all last season and pay him $3 mill. While we get rid of any actual muscle we have, going into a more physical division. I hope these are only rumors. 

#2431446 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by ben_usmc on 24 July 2013 - 11:01 PM

Soooo any actual updates on Brunner?

#2430854 Fedorov: ‘We had the chance’ to bring Datsyuk to KHL

Posted by ben_usmc on 19 July 2013 - 03:43 PM

I don't see why any of this is negative. Feds was doing what his job entails and he even admitted he understood why Pavel made is choice, of course I don't have the same hate for Feds as many.

#2428661 Wings Attempting to Re-sign Cleary

Posted by ben_usmc on 07 July 2013 - 08:59 PM


I'd actually have to BE a newfie for that to happen. The reality is, is that a team with a bunch of small, skilled players isn't gonna get you far. Do you need skill guys? Yes! But you need guys like Cleary to. Certainly glad Holland doesn't live in your reality or we would be icing a smurf roster like the Habs each and every year. 


With Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Alfie, Franzen, Weiss, and Abby (you can't not play him with Dats at this point. His suspension proved his value) why is everyone so sure Cleary would be in the top 6? He is a role player. With the forwards the Wings have now, his role is grind, PK, and give the bottom 6 some secondary scoring. Sure he may get some 2nd unit PP time to get in the goalies face. 


It isn't gys like Tatar or Nyquist who will lose roster spots with a Cleary signing. It is guys like Sammy, Tootoo and Eaves. Guys like Bert will have to fight for a spot. There will be injuries all season. Everyone will get their chance to play. Dunno if everyone has forgotten, but that is the exact reason why the Wings have made the run they did this year! Maybe people should see how the roster actually shapes up by the end of the summer before getting all bent out of shape now. Ever think that just MAYBE a trade or two will still happen? 

Cleary is so bad at hockey it makes me question whether he is generally a bad person or not.  He brings nothing to the table, he had a stretch of 4-5 games this whole year where he was worth a damn.


edit: I really hope the Avs sign him, I have a friend who is a huge Avs fan and always talks about how terrible he is.  I mean Col does need leadership :)

#2428511 Abdelkader Hypothetical

Posted by ben_usmc on 07 July 2013 - 01:43 PM



55 points?  


Guy scored 3 points in 12 playoff games, playing on the top lines.  He's not an offensive player and has hammer hands.  


Babcock needs to put this guy on the lower lines where he belongs.    

Lower lines, not on the team....

#2426213 Wings in on Alfredsson

Posted by ben_usmc on 04 July 2013 - 10:15 PM

12 other teams want Cleary? There is a god!

LOL please God let Cleary cash in.  The one time I hope a player feels no loyalty to the Wings!

#2425452 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by ben_usmc on 03 July 2013 - 01:37 PM

I know I'll probably get flack for this but I'm okay with him re-signing Cleary if it's for a decent price. The guys a warrior and in spite of how people discount all his points, he was second only to Z in playoff scoring.

It just needs to be at good value, short term, and he should play fewer minutes.

re-signing Sammy on the other hand, I'm still ticked about. And now even if Holland wants to he may not be able to buy Sammy out because he's "injured."
True. It would've been what, something like $23 million tied up through 2021 AND having to re-sign Datsyuk?

It's a decent value for those guys now but the team loses so much flexibility for future moves.

IMO he had 1 good half playoff series in the last 2 years.  Other then that, his favorite move is get the puck, pin it to the corner half way up the boards, and then let the dman take it away and throw it out of the zone.

#2422470 17yr old hockey player charged for on-ice assault.

Posted by ben_usmc on 26 June 2013 - 03:01 PM

I wonder if they would be filing this if their son didn't get his ass kicked. Can't really say I feel sorry for him, I know the other guy certainly went full retard, but still IDK i just can't get behind an assault charge being used in this case. Perhaps the roller hockey incident but not so much this.

#2420152 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by ben_usmc on 16 June 2013 - 09:14 AM

You don't let players like that walk

#2420150 3 1sts for 1st Overall?

Posted by ben_usmc on 16 June 2013 - 08:58 AM

Avs fans/team are convinced they are 1 dman away from the playoffs.  Whether that maybe true or not, under those ideas I wouldn't trade a potential generational dman (who already has a relationship with the team).