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#2315723 The Next Move

Posted by ben_usmc on 05 July 2012 - 01:29 PM

posted this in another thread but this is probably more appropriate for here:
Look at it this way if you roll with what we have, and go into the regular season with all this free cap. Then we can have a very good idea on who can produce at this point (Nyquist, Tatar, Smith, etc...hell even some established players) and make trades accordingly. Our defense is not good but I don't think it will be the abortion on skates that most here do.

I say this b/c while Lids was imo the leading Norris candidate before injury, after he cameback he wasn't his normal self. Compound that with Stu who checked out very early and seemed basically one of our worst dman all year, and Quincey/White playing terrible= overall bad team d. Now with the inclusion of Smith (who will be better then either a terrible Quincey/Stu) and from watching Q in both Col/LA (he will be better), White may not improve much, he I don't think he will be as bad as late last year either, then to me the defense looks like a wash. It won't be near the top, nor near the bottom...

Our offense to me has already improved Tootoo will bring out more in either Helm or Abby. Sammy (though I dislike the signing) is an improvement over Hudler in physicality, plus he certainly is more willing to shoot! Brunner sounds like he will improve Helm (but I'm not totally counting on that). Nyquist in my opinion is going to blow peoples minds with a full season in the NHL. He looks a lot like Datsyuk so I have high expectations for him, last season in his time up he was at one point 7 for 7 points/games switching between 1st/4th line duties. The most recent comparison to me would be Matt Duchene in that he would get knocked off the puck super easy because of weight but pops back up instantly and is always making something happen. Tatar wasn't OMG amazing when brought up but compared to the baggage this team has dragged around the last 2 years, I believe he will be an improvement.

Our goaltending should improve hell we were using Conklin (I thought it was a good signing at the time, and I admit I as wrong as hell)

Wildcard statement: Give Sheehan some more time with the big club. The only NHL game he played in, it appeared he was great at maintaining control with people dragging on his back.

Overall my opinion is that we right now are about in the same boat as late last season. Right now we will make the playoffs, but get dropped in the 1st. Keep the cash until we see what we have and what's available, as long as we can just tread water while others start sinking then there is no point in throwing fist fulls of cash towards players just because it's what's popular (Suter/Parise) or trade away depth for (Ryan/Nash).

#2314101 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by ben_usmc on 04 July 2012 - 12:32 AM



#2314040 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by ben_usmc on 03 July 2012 - 09:59 PM

If we get Suter for the 6.9 cap hit, and then turn our sights on Doan and could make that happen (granted Parise goes elsewhere), boy would I be impressed with Mr Holland.

exactly! oh think of the hitting!! Him and Tootoo would lay on others, with the subtraction of Hudler, entrance of Sammy again, and a full time Smith, really would make our team much more physical.

#2314037 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by ben_usmc on 03 July 2012 - 09:51 PM

I haven't watched a TON of Parise, but from what I saw he looked very good but not worth $7-8 million good. I'd rather get Doan for $4.5 and then roll out what we have and wait for the deadline.

#2312062 Red Wings Sign Mikael Samuelsson to 2-yr, $6m deal (w/full NTC)

Posted by ben_usmc on 01 July 2012 - 10:30 PM

f*** you Ken Holland, seriously f*** you

#2295429 Who do you blame for this unsuccessfully playoff run

Posted by ben_usmc on 21 April 2012 - 06:29 PM

50% Holland for bring back most of this trash, year after year, and not trying to upgrade the team, which may help in the long run getting Lids back. Because he can make many improvements saying, look this is our plan for you to go out on top. If they brought in one more hardcore vet like Iggy, Doan, Morrow, there would be even more motivation to win 1 last cup for Lids and a first cup for them.
30% Babcock, for refusing to make players be held responsible for there s***ty play and his refusal to make changes whether regular season or playoffs. Hudler at the point on the PP, ya that was a good idea.... Lets try it a good 15-20x before we finallyf****** realize that. Also letting f***s like Franzen and them play most of the series on the top line when that useless ***** refuses to cut to the center of the ice, or bitching about lack of physicality yet letting them all play with out it is his own damn fault. His late line combos, bert/dats/mule line didn't do s***, Nyquist/Homer/Emmerton line... WTF? But game 5 last 15min yeah lets finally put lines that looked good at certain points in the season or series back together, because what we did for majority of the time was oh so successful.
20% players, f*** most of you, excluding: Dats/Lids/Z/Nyquist/Helm

Wow! 46-0 Holland. That is just BS. I personally didn't vote because the poll only had two options, neither one correct. How is it then that not one person here thinks out of the two guys, Babcock was more to blame? What was Holland supposed to do? The market was what it was and it was clear that you had to overpay in order to get certain guys. Holland already overpaid once by trading our first round pick for Q but to me that wasn't that bad of a move. Our D is definitely better with Q in the lineup over Kindl.

Because teams are allowed to make moves before the season starts and even up to the point of the trade deadline

#2294913 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by ben_usmc on 20 April 2012 - 11:24 PM

I'd probably cut off a pinky or something if we could Doan, Iggy, and Stewart this off season. You want hitting, fighting, leadership and intensity!!!!

#2292037 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by ben_usmc on 18 April 2012 - 07:48 AM

Bring in Chris Stewart!!!!! He was a healthy scratch the other day for S.L. and is a RFA, we can probably get him on the cheap since his fall from grace. This dude a beast and everything we want in Detroit, that would be step 1.

#2292028 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by ben_usmc on 18 April 2012 - 07:37 AM

The real s***ty thing isn't knowing Holland is going to do a damn thing, except sign some tired ass over the hill 3/4 liner and try to present him as the solution to our scoring touch(ala Modano) and probably some ex Red Wing (Sammy/WIlliams/Quincey) then give us some buls*** excuse about how he likes this team. f*** him for believing in his own hype!
The asking price was too? ***** you supposedly have a top 10 prospect pool and $6 million dollars, we won't see 95% of these prospects for another 10 years, so shut the f*** up and have the balls to make af****** move for someone we can see.

#2291711 WCQF Game Four GDT : Predators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by ben_usmc on 17 April 2012 - 10:22 PM

Wow, a lot of talk about letting Hossa go. Get real, guys, that wouldn't have made any sense. If u want Hossa, say good by to the 3rd and 4th lines, and a good chunk of the starters. Hossa is a fantastic player, but he costs too much. Look at the Blackhawks now, they're are the perfect example of a 'one and done' team. Sure they won A cup, but at the cost of selling off almost their whole team in the off season

OMG not our amazing 3rd and 4th lines.. Please say it ain't so

One of our biggest problems is our 3rd and 4th lines have no identity, feel free to dismantel them

#2291535 WCQF Game Four GDT : Predators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by ben_usmc on 17 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

Good to see the 06 red wings have shown the f*** up. Great you put up 40 shots from the peremeter, seriously holland is pathetic. You sign a an overrated lazy piece of s*** like Franzen to a life time contract. You are happy with the team?? The same team who lost to SJ 2 years in a row? Every team attempted to do something, our big move Kylef****** Quincey (who played very well tonight). Also the line up you put out there Babcock and your refusal to put the power line out there? f*** this arrogant orginazation and team, I'm so pissed. I just hope a 1st round lose actually makes Ken Holland pull out his tampoon and change this abortion of a hockey team into a something that actually has af****** sack. If god willing we win this round, whoever we end facing will physically beat the s*** out of us anyway so it's a moot point. Of course we will continue to sign the same old tired ******* and walk the same old tired phrases from Ken Holland.

#2286145 WCQF Game 2 GDT : Red Wings 3, at Nashville Predators 2

Posted by ben_usmc on 13 April 2012 - 10:56 PM

Ericsson has been Bad ass since his injury return. Also Props to Cleary (who I bag on all the time) he has played very good, lastly congrats to Emmerton. I feel like Datsyuk just looks injured or out of sync hopefully he can figure it out and start to light it up. All around the wings looked good and determined, I'm just hoping we can watch a SC highlight video a few months, interviewing the opposing teams talking about howf****** stupid Weber and Nashville was for the cheapshot and then joking around in the fact they woke up a sleeping juggernaut.

#2283854 Shea Weber fined for Zetterberg "headslam"

Posted by ben_usmc on 12 April 2012 - 07:15 PM

Sure am glad we have 90% ******* on this team. They didn't care when Malkin swung a stick at Z, they didn't care when Datsyuk had to fight for himself, or Howard, but Holland loves this team... f*** HIM

#2281044 Dan Cleary openly admits to being at 50%

Posted by ben_usmc on 10 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

Dan Clearly will step up and be clutch. He's out there to win and no doubt he will put everything on the line to win.

Guy has heart!

probably not....

Hope I'm wrong though

#2278663 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by ben_usmc on 05 April 2012 - 10:31 PM

Well, it sucks we lost. But can't hate the effort, Nyquist/Emmerton/Murzak line look pretty good too. All you can ask sometimes is for an effort