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#2461990 Do Quincey and Smith have a future in Detroit?

Posted by Dabura on 07 December 2013 - 07:13 PM

I think there is still hope for Smith.

 

Dude's only 24! And this is only his second go-around as a regular! He drives me crazy most nights, but that's to be expected with a young offensive defenseman.

 

Quincey, on the other hand....




#2460466 Do Quincey and Smith have a future in Detroit?

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 03 December 2013 - 04:28 PM

Smith needs more time to develop, he's still young and green. Look at Adam Larsson in New Jersey, pretty much the same scenario. He's a very young top Defensive prospect that has been pretty awful for the Devils so far. It's nothing a few healthy scratches and a few years of development won't fix over time. 

 

Young prospects aren't always going to join this team and be amazing from the start, it's a major transition to adjust to the NHL level from where they came from. Smith will be around for a while, and down the road we'll be happy he's here i'm sure.

 

I don't think Quincey has been as terrible as most think he has but it wouldn't hurt my feelings much if he moved on or was replaced.




#2437407 NHL enforcing uniform rule from 1964

Posted by Dabura on 18 September 2013 - 02:57 AM

I predict this will ultimately result in the creation of an entirely new sort of pest/agitator: the tucker. His sole purpose: to tuck the opposition's jerseys, twice. Or several times. Or dozens of times.




#2436749 will you tank red wings games due to the cleary signing

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 15 September 2013 - 06:57 PM

Are you sure it wasn't bad grammar? I mean, maybe the person was asking who was going to GET tanked in order to watch Cleary play.

Because in that case, *points at self*.


#2436698 will you tank red wings games due to the cleary signing

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 15 September 2013 - 12:09 PM

If someone is that upset about a depth signing, then they should probably see someone and reevaluate their priorities in life. Seriously? There are way more important things in life to get worked up about.

I get the people who boycotted hockey because of the lockout, but this has fake keyboard!rage written all over it...


#2336890 NHL submits offer to NHLPA - **Suspension Warning Post #70 & #273*

Posted by F.Michael on 28 December 2012 - 10:28 AM

I'm attributing the NHL's new offer to this recent tweet by Dr. Ruth:

@AskDrRuth: Members of Congress who can't compromise probably aren't good lovers. Sex requires give and take.

Insult a man's sexual prowess and it's on. If the season is saved I think we should send Dr. Ruth a fruit basket or something...

She'd probably prefer a manwhore dressed up like the Marlboro Man...

Just sayin.


#2320376 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by Crymson on 19 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

The problem is Holland is getting burned by being too conservative with his moves, and in doing so he's letting the team decline instead of taking a risk and possibly making a wrong move. There's an old saying 'Action is always better than inaction'.


That is an old Hindu saying. You have conveniently left out the rest of the passage, so I'll give it to you in context: "Action is better than inaction. Without action no one can survive," but "Act in such a way that it does not bind but frees one from ignorance." In other words, action is better than inaction, but your actions should be guarded and well-conceived.

Your argument seems to be that Holland making a big splash in the stupidest way imaginable would be preferable to him taking more prudent measures that might not succeed. If so, then the saying you've quoted absolutely disagrees with you.


#2318943 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by Shaman on 13 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

Wasn't refering to just his work as GM.


To be clear the success of the Wings, just like the failures of the Wings are not Holland's alone, its the whole management and coaching infrastructure. If I wanted Holland fired (and I may after this season (2012-13)), it wouldn't be just a message to Holland, but to the whole front office. This season will tell the real worth of the Ken Holland Red Wings. (I say this because up until 2008-2009 the Wings were pretty much the team built by Bowman and Jimmy D along with Holland).


#2318672 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by hillbillywingsfan on 12 July 2012 - 02:17 PM

I feel like a lot of people are underestimating the impact Smith will have. The kid is a pure stud and will prove why he's one of the most talked about rookies in Detroit's system. I have a feeling Smith will make Holland look like a genius for not blowing up the team for a 1 year run.

This is how I feel. I am so excited to see Smith play. I really have that feeling that he is going to surprise us all. I would like to see Semin on our team just for a season to see how he plays with Dats but that's just my own curiosity.


#2318739 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 12 July 2012 - 06:09 PM

Well Holland's not an idiot. He won't tell the media "HOLY s*** I'M DESPIRATE! I'LL PAY ANY PRICE".

He's obviously going to lean towards tank/youthgrowth or find that perfect trade.

Kneejerk reactions won't replace Nick Lidstrom.


#2318730 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 12 July 2012 - 05:32 PM

It's time to have faith in our youth and brush off a bit of the "guaranteed success" mentality. It's going to be an interesting season to say the least, it's the first time I can remember going into a season wondering if we are actually gonna make the playoffs. I'm not ripping on the team in the slightest, but there has been some drastic change this offseason and the team is a bit foreign going into October. I really don't know what to expect, I HOPE Smith is another Karlsson story and just explodes this season but i'm not banking on it. We didn't expect Flip to have the season he just had and i'm looking forward to being surprised again and seeing who steps up and gets it done for us.

It's been sticking in my head since the Wild signed those who shall not be named (and I don't mean Voldemort) that what if we did sign them both to those huge contracts, Smith proves to be an elite defensemen over the next couple years and we can't afford to resign him because we locked ourselves up with those massive contracts? Sometimes things happen for a reason, and if we can't add any big name players then i'm sticking to this logic so I don't go nuts.


#2318773 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by Frozen-Man on 12 July 2012 - 07:59 PM

You know what? I like the situation we are in, here is why. We are going to find out just how good we are. How good of a GM is Ken? Were going to find out. How good are all of our prospects? Lots of young guys are going to get a real chance to play this year. Our true depth will be exposed this year, good or bad. How good of a coach do we have? Babcock is going to have to coach his ass of this year. How big time are Datsyuk, Z, and the mule? Thoes guys must have monster years. Can they do it? We are going to find out. I f@cking pumped to find out. I think this is exactly what this club needs, a chance to prove them selves. This is great motivation, something we have been lacking. The Red Wings are going to see just how good they are and I feel good about it.


I agree. People have been complaining since the 2008 cup that the Wings lack motivation, well they should have it now. This is the first time in a long time that they actually have something to prove and hopefully it motivates them.


#2318856 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by stevkrause on 13 July 2012 - 06:51 AM

Will your opinion of him change if the Red Wings don't make it into the playoffs come spring of 2013 - 'cause as of right now - with this roster - I see us finishing anywhere from 7th thru 10th in the Conference.

Not one bit - one down year does not tarnish an entire body of work and it's that exact mentality that has my so annoyed with the general spoiled brat mentality on here lately....

Holland has been an integral part of our brain trust for over 20 years and adapted AMAZINGLY to the salary cap era (take a look at how well all of the other previous big market clubs have done since this was implemented) and has brought us (or been part of) 4 Stanley cups, 21 straight playoff appearances (might I mind you the longest active streak in PROFESSIONAL SPORTS), countless division titles and most importantly, a chance to win it all every year... that is damn near impossible in today's sports landscape, and I guarantee 29 other clubs would KILL to have such a horrible problem on their hands...

Even if we miss the playoffs this year (which I don't think we will), Holland will re-tool and put us back within Stanley Cup contention in no time, and when we're a perennial favorite again, win even MORE cups and titles under his reign, the people with this mentality will still be waiting for the team to have ONE year that's down again, so they can yell "fire him"... It's laughable...

Might I remind everyone that during his tenure we've also recovered from unexpectedly losing Konstantinov (a perennial Norris hopeful), unexpectedly losing Jiri Fischer(who was well on his way to being one of the premier big dmen in the league), adapting to a salary cap era AND now, he is losing the best (arguably) defenseman of all time and Holland WILL, as always, adapt to this... just because he didn't pull a rabbit out of his ass, when nothing was available right now, doesn't make him less capable and NOT chasing after marginal players to fill a hole they can't anyway, IS what makes him even better...

I am not commenting on this topic any further because it's like screaming at the deaf and if those who disagree can't understand all these points and take them for what they are, I don't know what else to say... As I said before, everyone has the right to be upset this off-season hasn't gone as planned, but COME ON.


#2318099 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by Johnz96 on 11 July 2012 - 08:27 AM

And on top of that, it was mentioned by centcougar that Kronwall should be getting more points playin "on a team" with Lidstrom. Funny that assessment is....wouldn't he be expected to get more points if he actually got the luxury of playing on a line with Lids?? Not being in Lids shadow watching guys like Rafalski, White and even Ericsson getting playing time on a line with Lids, and even Stuart. Kronwall didn't get ice time with Lids cause he had to run the 2nd pairing cause he was capable of doing so. Now he's gonna be the guy running the Wings blueline with Smith as 2nd fiddle.

He scored 10 points in the 12 games Lidstrom missed last year,which prorated over 82 games is 69 points (Norris #s)


#2317951 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by Matt on 10 July 2012 - 09:51 PM

Trying to get through to these homers is like a one legged man trying to win an ass kicking contest. It's not going to happen. It's funny though, the hypocrisy


Enough. The line is drawn in the sand right here. Reply tactfully -- and to the topic at hand -- or find your stay here permanently shortened.

This also applies to all others dragging this thread though the mud.