Posted by dat's sick
on 22 January 2014 - 02:38 PM
I disagree with the notion that we're not a cup contender when healthy. Maybe your idea of a contender is only the teams in the top tier (Chi, Pit, Bos, Stl, SJ, Ana), but I see us as being one of few teams that can actually pull an upset against any of the top teams. We have a core of experienced guys that can still go head-to-head with the league's best and match or outmatch them, and we have a support crew of good playoff guys like Franzen and Alfie and young and hungry guys like Tatar, Nyquist, Dekeyser, Smith.
Don't give up on the season before we see what this team can actually do when healthy or close to it. Tonight, we're going to have a healthy defensive lineup for what, the 5th time this season? It's a good test against the Hawks, even if our depleted forwards and lack of #1 goalie will make it more difficult.
As for moves, if we do so badly up until the trade deadline that we're basically out of it then I'd be 100% for moving Quincey/Kindl/Bert/Sammy/Cleary/Andersson/Eaves/Tootoo, basically any of the guys that are expendable. A 7th round pick, a conditional 6th, maybe a 2nd or 3rd, I'd take any return we could get. Though I doubt many would be interested. Alfie would have the most value, and sure, if he's not going to have the chance for a playoff run here I hope he gets traded so he gets a shot. Maybe he can still return for next season if he wants 1 more year and doesn't want to move his family anymore.
Btw, as I understand it Franzen's contract is basically unmovable under the new CBA. If he retires we'd get a cap penalty for the remaining years. He would easily have a ton of value though contrary to what this board thinks. Big goalscorer with a reputation of being huge in the playoffs? Nah, who wants that...
Kindl/Almqvist (fight for ice time and a spot)
I think Mantha is the exception. He's a giant power forward who can dangle and score. He should be on the top line with Z and Dats and eat the Calder trophy for breakfast, lunch and supper. Keep Helm on the 2nd line cause he's taking it and owning it. Weiss can be a slightly expensive shutdown guy until his scoring touch comes back, which it should with wingers like Franzen and Jurco, who I expect good things from at the NHL level. I want to see that 4th line annoy and destroy. I don't care if they get a goal all year, which I'm sure they would, but regardless I just want them to hit everything. Ouellet and Sproul should be on the team next season with Marchenko next in line from what I hear.
If no free agent that is the likes of Vanek or someone of that caliber wants to sign, that team above could compete for the Cup.
Maybe in 4/5 years, as of now that lineup has 8 rookies, and 4 guys with 1-1.5 years nhl experience. I know we're all high on our prospects and all, but that team would be very lucky to make the playoffs, and they sure as hell won't be winning a cup.
I really despise Dan Cleary, and Babcock's inexplicable devotion to him is beginning to seriously perturb me. I understand that Quincey must play, as there are no other defensemen available. But it was clearly unnecessary for Cleary to be on this team to begin with, let alone playing in every game, let alone playing on the first line. It is a !@#$ing travesty. Put ANY FORWARD but Cleary there. LITERALLY ANY OF THEM. Every single one forward on this team would do better than him. This is not an exaggeration, and it makes the issue infuriating.
Posted by ogreslayer
on 15 November 2013 - 10:31 AM
Think Kenny can convince Sammy to accept a trade to Florida in order to maximize his salary for the rest of the year due to the lack of state income tax? Would Tallon go for Sammy for a package including one of Lebron's used headbands & a postcard of the Clevelander?
Totally disappointed by this... Tatar needs to be in the lineup every night (same goes for Nyquist). Still just can't fathom why we would possibly re-sign Cleary (especially with all our roster/cap issues). Ridiculous...