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#2320258 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by Matt on 19 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

That contract is outrageous. If the new CBA doesn't fix this soon, we'll be treading baseball contracts soon. Honestly who thinks paying for one guy like that will be good for them? They won't be able to afford anyone else to help him! I wouldn't have signed it, but maybe it's just the almighty dollar working its evil again. I remember when we fought for the cup, not a $...

$7.8/year for one of the top 3 defenseman in the game isn't outrageous by any stretch. He's been a perennial Norris contender the last few years and is just now entering his prime. Contracts given out to these players shouldn't be the biggest concern -- they're paid appropriately -- it's the bloated middle-tier that's concerning (see: Ville Leino, Dennis Wideman, et al).


#2320222 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 19 July 2012 - 09:11 AM

If Weber ends up in Philly and gets the C does he assume the kiss of death Lindros, Primeau, and Pronger all have with careers ended via concussions? Hes already had 2 ... one or two more good bell ringers and he could be counting to potatoe as well. Just saying.


:lol: I didn't even think about that but you're right. I wouldn't touch the C in Philly with a ten foot pole if I were him!

We all know that Preds will match this offer sheet, so that is not the point. But Weber would easily be worth 4 first round picks in my opinion. It is not like the Red Wings have a fantastic draft record for defensemen taken in the first round the past 20 years -and it is not like they aren't trying. Detroit used 8 of 10 possible picks on defensemen and traded ten 1st picks (in 97, 99, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 09, 11 and 12). The exceptions are McCollum in 08 and Sheahan in 10.

1993 Anders Eriksson
1994 Yan Golubovsky
1995 Maxim Kuznetsov
1996 Jesse Wallin
1998 Jiri Fischer
2000 Niklas Kronwall
2005 Jakub Kindl
2007 Brendan Smith


Hold on a sec. Weber's definitely worth 4 Detroit 1st rounders if we're talking the past. BUT with Lidstrom gone and our superstars all getting older we can't assume the future will be paved in low 20's draft positions.


#2320124 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by FlashyG on 19 July 2012 - 02:42 AM

He made significant offers to both of the top FA's available this offseason, they chose to play at home over joining the Wings. He is after the next biggest FA available and is waiting to hear back, and had preliminary talks with the #4 FA, who appears to be waiting to see what happens with Doan.

On top of all that he's had significant trade talks with Nashville for Weber, with Phoenix for Yandle, and even attempted to get Nash from Columbus.

He can't make teams trade with him if they don't want too, and paying extra just for the sake of making a major change is more likely to land us in the lottery rather than the playoffs.

I'm not sure what you're expecting, but this has been the most active Ken Holland has been in an offseason in 15 years.


#2320081 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by ShanahanMan on 19 July 2012 - 12:50 AM

What people also need to get is this will definitely create a domino affect, driving up the value for elite defensemen exponentially. Any hopes we had of trading for Yandle, Enstrom, etc. is all but gone.


#2264075 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by Crymson on 27 February 2012 - 03:32 PM

This was the worst deadline market ever. NOBODY got a scoring forward, and the quality grit forwards went for a premium. I don't see why some of you are complaining. The fact that virtually no significant moves were made should indicate to you that the prices being asked for were exorbitant.


#2263979 2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET

Posted by The Production Line on 27 February 2012 - 03:10 PM

If Holland got Quincey today would you detractors still be saying the same thing?

The Wings added a top 4 defenseman for nothing. That's pretty good in my book.


#2263887 2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET

Posted by Nevermind on 27 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

I wish I tapped Holland's phone right about now.


"Papa John's? Can you make a delivery?"


Considering who owns the team, shouldn't he get a hot-and-ready from Little Caesar's? ;)


#2263813 2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET

Posted by dat's sick on 27 February 2012 - 02:07 PM

Soooo I don't like Bashing Holland about not trading because he has built a great Organization, but one of our biggest rivals just got better and the team that is fighting us for the 1st in the west is trying to improve. Please Holland, work something out with Darcy...

Pahlsson has some good things about his game, but he's not the player he was a few years ago and is hardly a guy that makes Vancouver a much better team. Us picking up Quincey is probably more of an improvement than them adding Pahlsson.


#2259852 Kyle Quincey traded to Detroit in 3 team trade (TBL & COL)

Posted by Jesusberg on 21 February 2012 - 04:42 PM

People are going to grumble about this because of the situation, I think. If we were adding a 26-year-old RFA with 30-35 point potential and he DIDN'T have a history with the team, people would likely be more receptive to the idea.


#2259818 Kyle Quincey traded to Detroit in 3 team trade (TBL & COL)

Posted by P. Marlowe on 21 February 2012 - 04:26 PM

He's still just 26 and he's an upgrade over Ericsson, Kindl and Commodore. I'd say he's worth of a late first rounder.


#2197804 Backup Goalie?

Posted by 55fan on 11 July 2011 - 09:44 AM

I voted Oz, but I was really torn between him and Conk. Heart says Oz, but Conk will be fine. Brain says Conk, but Oz will be fine.

I guess whatever happens, I will be a little happy and a little sad.


#2170090 2011 Round 2 Photoshop War: San Jose Sharks

Posted by kook_10 on 09 May 2011 - 09:37 AM

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#2162909 WCSF Game 2 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 2

Posted by Doc Holliday on 01 May 2011 - 02:44 PM

Lazy, rushed passes.

The team is just uninspired and confused out there.

What a terrible game so far.


#2160417 2011 Round 2 Photoshop War: San Jose Sharks

Posted by Grypho on 29 April 2011 - 03:40 AM

OK, following is definitely the most fun one I've put together so far.

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#2156067 Photoshop Wait(?): Biding time for Round 2

Posted by Taylorov on 21 April 2011 - 08:33 PM

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