martyrme19

I tried my best to read each response and I feel like no one really mentioned the obvious.

All of what people said about why the NHL and NFL are among the toughest are right. However with one glaring absence. Simply put - more NHL teams can realistically win the Stanely Cup in the playoffs than any other sport. Look no further than this years 8 seed winning it all.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt that has ever happened in the NBA. Even before the lockout, upsets were always rampant. Now, this is why I differ it from the NFL (where low seeds can also have success). In the NFL, a low seed can go far by going on a streak simply because its 1 and done. Anyone can get lucky a couple of times. But only the perfect makeup of the NHL requires just enough games to make it supremely tough for even the best team in the NHL to win, and for a low seeded team to prevail. If a low seed team wins, they prove that it wasn't a fluke whereas in the NFL, you can't claim that.

K, end of story.

Seriously what the hell - where were all of you who have claimed to have wanted Jagr when everyone else on these boards were calling me an idiot for saying he was worth the risk?

I would like to say that I was probably the biggest proponent on these boards saying that jagr will be worth the risk. I caught a lot of flack from multiple people on here telling me I would be dead wrong. I think there was about 1 other person that was supporting me. I never actually pay attention to who the posters are individually - but I'm sure you know who you are so: na na na boo boo stick your head in doo doo.

I know most of the guys I played hockey with, as soon as they could ditch the cage/visor they did. They said it was to see better, but I know they did it because they thought they'd "look" cooler. Any decent visor is fog resistent and the bottom of the visor maybe obstructs your view by like 2%. If visors were really that detreimental to your sight, the best players in the world wouldn't be wearing them.

Also, as eluded too, I'm just assuming the veterans don't want to lose the only eyes they have, while the younger guys just want to try hockey without any cage/visor.  The smarter ones will keep some sort of eye protection, though.

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I don't know - I ditched the mask as soon as I could and it certainly wasn't to "look" cooler. Actually, I think the most badass look is the picture I have in my avatar. It really is a comfort thing for me, and a lot of players I know. A ton of dudes would come to practice for 1 or 2 sometimes 3 weeks straight wearing a visor hoping to get used to it for a game. I can't recall one guy that ended up switching. It really does make a difference. I mean, even if it doesn't *actually*, I feel like it does. Which then means that it absolutey does, if that makes sense.

To me, the biggest distraction is the added weight it provides to the front of my helmet. I don't like the way it feels when I turn  my head on a swival. I also feel like some how I miss passes and fumble pucks a lot more with it on. I can't pin point where the loss in vision comes, but it totally has an effect - whether real or perceived.

I know that if I forced myself to wear it, I would just get used to it. Alas, I love not having it at all so why change? Chicks dig scars and I have great dental. In any case, just because you have more equipment doesnt mean you are any safer. Studies show that Anti-lock breaks worked to prevent accidents initially, but now they cause MORE accidents because people now feel they can push the limits more. Seriously, look it up. It's an automatic subconcious thing.

People with facemasks probably put their faces in dangers way more often. I've not worn a mask for 7 years now. I've never got hit in the eye and never had a tooth injury. I've been his in the face twice where I was cut and it bled, but I never missed a shift nor did I need anything other than a band aid. So ya, I'll continue to take my chances.

First of all let's try and be a little less 'boo-hoo somebody doesn't agree with me so I'm going to pitch fit about it and curse at them' and be a little more grown up, shall we?

Also, please stop trying to anticipate arguments…. I was not going to say anything about peewee hockey.  I have never disagreed that fighting is a PART of the game and its heritage.  But, your seemingly equal comparison between fighting and shooting/passing/defense/goaltending/ice/etc. is, again, way off.  

No, taking fighting away from the game would not be the same as taking away the ice and turning it into roller hockey.  Based on your assessment, the Wings have played in zero hockey games this year, since there have been no fights.  Oh, and how many "hockey games" (with fights) did they play in last year – 10?  How many NHL games have you seen without shooting, passing, defense, goaltending, or ice?  None.  How many have you seen without fights?  An extremely large number.  These are not equivalents.  You are delusional if you really think that.  

I never said I didn’t like or care for the fighting.  I don't want it taken away from the game or anything like that.  I just said I didn’t care for it in some circumstances and clearly I do not care for it nearly as much as you do…. although it seems to me that doing that would hardly be possible for anyone.

Your sport, huh?  Sounds to me like you should go watch some boxing or UFC instead since the fighting is all that matters to you – or at least you should go watch the Penguins or some other team that fights a lot more than Detroit does.  Maybe you would be happier and less prone to snap at someone who is just trying to have a discussion.

Let me be perfectly clear - I dont know who you are, nor do I ever intend to care. I have no invested interest in debating on this topic the way you see fit, so f*** you buddy. It's not so much, "boohoo someone disagrees with me" as it is, "is this guy really thisf****** retarted?".

You're trying to argue something that the very nature of the game has cultivated for 100 years. End of story. Don't like it, pick another sport.

I'm sick of talking to you now. If you want to keep it going, lets meet at an arena somewhere and drop the gloves. Or you can just shoot and pass the puck around, I dont give a s***.