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#2057948 Get ready folks, hitting is about to exit our game

Posted by toby91_ca on 05 November 2010 - 11:54 AM

However, both Murph and Holik agreed that the 5 minute penalty should have been assessed but not a game misconduct.

If that is the case, I think both Murph and Holik need to educate themselves on the rule:

Rule 48 – Illegal Check to the Head
48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent
where the head is targeted and/or the principle point of contact is not
permitted.
48.2 Minor Penalty – There is no provision for a minor penalty for this rule.
48.3 Major Penalty – For a violation of this rule, a major penalty shall be
assessed (see 48.4).
48.4 Game Misconduct Penalty – An automatic game misconduct penalty
shall be assessed whenever a major penalty is assessed under this
rule.




#2057857 An Unlikely Scrap

Posted by toby91_ca on 05 November 2010 - 08:06 AM

Has it gotten to the point that people on this form dislike the guy so much logic thought can not be processed when it comes to him?

For the record, Niskanen is BIGGER than Crosby. Crosby picks his spots and doesn't fight guys with more fighting experience? Come on, Crosby isn't a fighter, why would he pick fights with fighters. People are acting as it Crosby singles out the weakest player in every game and goes out and picks a fight with them. He's been in 4 or 5 fights in his career and has fought guys in and around his size.....is there really anything wrong with that? There is because it's Crosby of course, I must be an idiot, that's the one variable I did not consider.


#2057851 Get ready folks, hitting is about to exit our game

Posted by toby91_ca on 05 November 2010 - 07:54 AM

I don't think it's an elbow, but I also don't think that matters. I was clearly a headshot and it was clearly an east to west hit. Not sure how people are seeing it as North/South.

I think the rule is going to cause wrong calls being made by officials, but let's be honest, we've have super slow mo video here and we're still arguing about it. All the officials have is real time, full speed and not necessarily the best angle.

But when it comes down to it, maybe it just causes bad calls, some growing pains, but I doubt it will take hitting out of the game....unless you start seeing guys get suspended when they really shouldn't.

In this case, I think he should be suspended. This isn't a matter of being tough, we're talking about guys heads here. And it's not a matter of potentially ending someone's career, it's much worse than that, the players quality of life is on the line.

If the player has his head down (yes, Perron did), that's his own fault, but in this case, Thornton also came from the side, which is the no no now, which I agree with.


#2052786 Easiest Division

Posted by toby91_ca on 26 October 2010 - 08:36 AM

I think a couple guys might not have noticed that they are replying to posts that were made 5 years ago.


#2049710 Rypien suspended 6 games

Posted by toby91_ca on 20 October 2010 - 04:38 PM

He grabbed the kid. He didn't assault him. I'm thinking a 5 game suspension.

Since he has an in-person hearing schedule, his suspension will = MIN 5 games.

With respect to pending lawsuit against him....bulls***.


#2047700 Letang "blindside" hit on Comeau

Posted by toby91_ca on 15 October 2010 - 10:46 PM

It looks clean to me, but I have to admit that I'm starting to get sick of seeing another player laid out every night in the highlights. Don't know if Comeau is alright or what happened to him after the hit, but 2 weeks into the season and there are already over a dozen concussions in the league.

I think Ryan Miller was right when he said we need to change the culture.

Comeau is perfectly fine, I suspect he laid on the ice for a bit to try and sell it.


#2047693 Letang "blindside" hit on Comeau

Posted by toby91_ca on 15 October 2010 - 10:29 PM

It wasn't blindside, but it was an elbow to the head..

I'm sorry, but are you completely insane??? Elbow to the head? The closest the elbow came to the head was when Letang's elbow was next to Comeau's elbow when he hit him shoulder to shoulder, other than that, I don't see the elbow as coming even within 3 feet of the head.

This is the bad part of the new rule....you are going to see guys get 5 and a game like this for perfectly clean hits that would never have been called penalties in the past.
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#2041183 New Captains

Posted by toby91_ca on 06 October 2010 - 01:27 PM

top 15 sounds good. horcoff as a captain in the NHL is embarrasing though. he's a 2nd/3rd line player on a good team. guess that's why the oil finished dead last in the league last year.

You don't have to be the best player on the team to be a good leader and therefore good captain.


#2032377 Dustin Byfuglien will move to defense

Posted by toby91_ca on 10 September 2010 - 01:35 PM

He's not that good of a player, the value he did have was his size and the ability to stand in front of the net, this decision basically removes that value.


#2025772 Pavel Datsyuk

Posted by toby91_ca on 13 August 2010 - 10:08 AM

Fast forward to today and all the CONTINUED highlight moves and I can confidently say, WITHOUT hesitation, that Pavel Datsyuk has the single greatest puck control/hands in the history of the game... go ahead and try and argue who is/has been better? It's like the guy LITERALLY has the puck attached to his stick by a string and is a once in a lifetime (possibly history) that you will ever see a player with that ability... and DAMN are we lucky it is happening in the Winged Wheel...

That is a pretty bold statement, which appears to be based soley on watching one player and what he has done.....have you watched other players as closely, behind the scenes, etc.?

Kent Nilsson was pretty slick and I've always considered him to be the best stickhandler I've ever seen. Kovalev is pretty damn good too.

I think something like this is pretty subjective and you could very well get some arguments for other players, I think it's really difficult to say that one player, without a doubt at all, is the best.


#2025569 Best Captains by Team

Posted by toby91_ca on 12 August 2010 - 03:51 PM

Was Gretzky really that good as a leader? I know he has tons of points but was he good in the locker room as well?

To be honest, you can't really answer that question about anyone unless you were actually part of the team.


#2024741 Forsberg eyeing another NHL comeback?

Posted by toby91_ca on 10 August 2010 - 07:52 AM

The Brett Favre of the NHL! :P

But did Forsberg ever really announce a retirement? I don't remember such an announcement. All I remember is hearing about him trying to play every year and having difficulty in doing so.

On a related note, I was reading Forsberg's wiki page and there is a comment in there about him leading the league in ppg during the 2008 season. He played only 9 games...I mean, really, do you have to say he lead the league in ppg? That like someone scoring 3 pts in the first game of the season and saying he is on pace to shatter Gretzky's single season point record.


#2022675 This team's still missing one thing..

Posted by toby91_ca on 05 August 2010 - 09:46 AM

This is all true not to mention the tandum of liddy and raf were burnt out this season due to inj...they will do fine giving they dont have to skate 32min every night all year.

I know you are just exaggerating, but not only are you way off on ice time, I don't think Lidstrom or Rafalski really played overly more than they do any other year. Neither played anywhere near 32 minutes in regulation in any single game all year, let alone every night.

Rafalski played a grand total of 1 game in which he played 30 minutes in regulation, Lidstrom had zero, he didn't eevn play a single game at 29 minutes in regulation.

Lidstrom averaged 25 minutes per night (well below what he used to play) and Rafalski averaged 24 minutes per night (about average for his years here, but below what he used to play in NJ).


#2022356 Red Wings Shootout lineup

Posted by toby91_ca on 04 August 2010 - 11:32 AM

Modano isn't particularly good in shootouts.


#2020396 Goal Celebration

Posted by toby91_ca on 29 July 2010 - 12:20 PM

"...in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by about 18 years. This happening when it became more popular with the middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football” gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name “Association Football”."

thus proving my original point...

No, it says soccer was used before the "singular word" football, but it was still orginally football. In fact, it was actually football (the singular word) even earlier, but in that time the word referred to many different sports.

It was referred to as "association football", then "soccer football", then "soccer", then "football", so to me, it is pretty clear that "football" is really the orginal name.