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#2504104 Ovechkin and ES

Posted by toby91_ca on 31 March 2014 - 10:23 AM

I've always viewed him as an alternate reality Fedorov. What if Feds hadn't been drafted by the Wings, hadn't played under Bowman, hadn't played alongside a slew of future Hall of Famers across a slew of very deep Wings teams funded by Mike Ilitch and his whatever-it-takes mandate? Would he have become an Alex Ovechkin? Or, to flip it around, What if Ovechkin had been drafted (or, more realistically, somehow acquired via trade) by the Wings? Would he be what he is?

I don't know, I see them as completely different players, right from day 1.

#2493930 Howard = Average

Posted by toby91_ca on 09 March 2014 - 05:12 PM

He's not one of the elite guys but he isn't being paid like one either. Mrazek might eventually be better but for now there aren't many better options.

Pretty sure he's getting top 10 money

#2492094 Stamkos named Captain of TBL

Posted by toby91_ca on 06 March 2014 - 09:27 PM

Reminds me of a young Stevie. Man do I ever wish we could somehow get him.

What about him reminds you have Stevie?  I see them as having quite a different skill set and style of play.

#2488694 Pat LaFontaine Resigns as Pres of Hockey Op. for Buffalo

Posted by toby91_ca on 02 March 2014 - 09:54 PM

This actually doesn't look good on Pat, seeing as he left very similarly from the NYI.

#2486505 Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

Posted by toby91_ca on 24 February 2014 - 07:56 AM


I agree, I think with Zetterberg, Sweden could have won it. I'm happy Canada won but my "cheering" was like a wings regular season win in March 2008. It's time to get back to Red Wings hockey, something I can cheer about with lots of energy! 


Edit: I also wanted to mention that I think Sweden is the "Canada" of Europe, such a great hockey nation!

Canada dominated the game.  There seemed to be extremely long stretches when Sweden couldn't even get the puck to the red line.  I doubt Zetterberg would have swung that into a win.

#2483898 Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

Posted by toby91_ca on 14 February 2014 - 02:56 PM

Yeah and they're tied with USA, Norway and Netherlands for Gold, yet they rank themselves above all 3 despite the fact that all 3 have the same amount of Gold and MORE overall medals. SMH

For the medal standings, it is listed by who has the most golds, then for teams that have the same number of golds, they are ranked by the most silvers.

#2483317 Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

Posted by toby91_ca on 11 February 2014 - 09:22 AM

When I don't like Canada's team top to bottom, I cheer for Wings above Canada.

That just sounds so wrong....I can't understand it.  I do the same thing when Wing players are playing against other countries, but no way would I cheer against Canada.

#2483209 NHL players will not participate in 2018 Olympics (Mod Post #99)

Posted by toby91_ca on 10 February 2014 - 02:58 PM

USA vs Canada Gold Medal game goes to overtime, the game got huge ratings and that undoubtedly got more people interested in the game of Hockey/NHL.


I mean you get 2 weeks of huge advertising for your sport, while losing no regularly scheduled games, and the owners are going to complain about this?? Are they f***ing kiding me


Well, that's the argument, I'm just not sure it really works.  Who is watching these games?  Non fans that all of a sudden start watching the NHL?  Or is it already existing NHL fans?  There is also a big difference between games in Vancouver and games in Sochi or other parts of the world.

#2483131 NHL players will not participate in 2018 Olympics (Mod Post #99)

Posted by toby91_ca on 10 February 2014 - 10:27 AM

Guess what NHL ? The players if they want to will go anyways but after seeing the conditions in Sochi I'm not surprised if some would pull out of that. Add to the that the ridiculous time difference (games at 6am anyone?!). Multi billonaires can't stand a standstill for two weeks unbelievable how greedy some of them are, must be a pleasure to work for them in normal life...


Can't wait till players are asking for olympic clauses *g*

How many other businesses do you know of that would shut down so their employees can go off and do something else without any benefit of all coming back to the company?  Initially, the idea was that the participation would help grow the game globally, but I don't think there is much impact at all from that.


I don't see it as a greed thing, I see it as a common sense thing.  There is no reason, whatsoever, for the owners to want to do it again in the future.  Will the players want to?  Sure, why not?  I'm not sure how important it is to them, but if it is important, it becomes a negotiation item with the league.  If the league agrees to it, what do the players give up in return?

#2478787 Is it 1970 again?

Posted by toby91_ca on 29 January 2014 - 04:54 PM

I do think there is trouble brewing with the team with the departures of D & Z, which is coming sooner than most hope.  Regardless of when they stop playing, they are in decline now and likely subject to potential injury concerns.  It's a fact of life and comes with age.  There are very, very few exceptions to that.  Lidstrom was one of the exceptions, his game didn't decline too much and he wasn't susceptible to injury too much either....mostly because of the style of game he played (wasn't centred around speed or physical play).  You don't have that same scenario with Z & D. 


That said, not sure I'd start thinking there is a paralell with the Dead Wings era because of the era we are in now, it's easier to rebuild.  Teams are much more competitive, the worst teams are not that much worse than the best teams.  From a points perspective, some of that is artificial because of the points system, but some of it is just pure factual due to the spreading around of talent.  Teams can't load up on all the superstars anymore due to the cap.  Of course, you could look at it being increasingly difficult to make the playoffs as well due to the competitive nature of the league as well.

#2476508 Stamkos vs Tavares

Posted by toby91_ca on 24 January 2014 - 11:57 AM

Before he got hurt this season:

17 GP 14G 9A 23pts

Wouldve scored 60 and won the rocket richard if he played all season. And probably competed with sid for points due to tampas major increase in offense this year. Just based on his on pace numbers.

Oh well. Next season...

Pretty small sample size to start projecting whether he's be competing for points race, but based on history and start to the season, pretty reasonable to think he'd be right there in goals.


However, Tavares currently is competing with Sid for points.  Granted, he's been really hot lately and needed 8pts in 2 nights to creep up there and he's still trailing by a signficant amount, so he might cool off and fade away, not sure.  Tavares has always been a great player, but right around a point per game.  The question is: is he just on a really hot streak now and wil even out a bit down the stretch, or is he having his break out year?  The latter might be more likely, since he is only 23 (same for Stamkos actually)

#2474589 Injuries + The League = Money.

Posted by toby91_ca on 20 January 2014 - 06:26 PM

Economics 101 suggests that if costs go down, supply increases, and prices fall, unless demand is totally inelastic (that is if the public doesn't care how much the tix cost and would buy the same number at any price) all other things being equal..

Economics 101 does not work here.  If costs go down, supply does not increase....there are still only X players per team.  A decrease in costs is not going to increase the number of players on a team and is not going to change the number of games being played.


The public is not going to decide that a game is not worth as much as they were paying before because of a decrease in costs.  In fact, you might even consider tickets to be more valuable if costs go down as a result of avoided injuries (i.e. star players playing more often).


They aren't selling widgets here.

#2471336 It's time - to predict 2014 Team Canada

Posted by toby91_ca on 08 January 2014 - 11:28 AM

In 2010 Nash was a beast. He was playing in a two way role then as he will be this year. Some players seem to rise to the occasion when playing for their country. Nash is that type of player. I am not a big fan of his but I give credit where its due. 



In 2010 Nash was a beast. He was playing in a two way role then as he will be this year. Some players seem to rise to the occasion when playing for their country. Nash is that type of player. I am not a big fan of his but I give credit where its due. 

I would probably go as far as to say that Nash, from that roster, has the best international reputation/past experience than anyone.

#2470485 World Juniors Tourney Thread

Posted by toby91_ca on 04 January 2014 - 10:49 AM

Most guys would throw their stick and go down from a high stick to the face....not sure why, but it's pretty much the norm.  The difference here is that he threw his glove off too.  I'm not too quick to jump on him as maybe he was scared there were dental issues there....but from that lightly of a tap I doubt it and the Russians do have a very bad rep for this type of thing.

#2462558 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by toby91_ca on 09 December 2013 - 04:32 PM

Shanahan is such a joke. How can one justify not even looking at the hit from Orpik


How could one justify looking at the hit from Orpik?  Absolutely nothing wrong with it, about as clean as you get.  The only argument that could be made is whether or not there is interference as he didn't have the puck, but the puck was coming to him and he didn't get it.  Either way, that argument, by no means, creates an argument for suspension.


He got hurt on the play because he fell back and hit his head on the ice, didn't look like Orpik made contact with his head at all....shoulder dead on chest/shoulder.