Dekeyser saw the deal Quincey got and realized he is worth at least 8m...he is double the player Quincey is.
Tatar I'm not surprised. He has a cocky attitude and frankly thinks he is better than what he is so I wonder how far off their numbers are to the wings. Is it a million or two? Couple hundred thousand?
I just cannot believe that even with the remaining D men out there, that #KFQ was the choice for Holland... I cannot believe that Morris and Gleason are still unsigned and #KFQ got re-signed and a raise...
Kudos to Quincey's agent by the way. Seriously. How he managed to get his client a raise is beyond me.
You know who I feel bad for? Kyle Quincey. I know he's not that good, and I know that he should be playing for someone else, and I know that he's now getting drastically overpaid. But you can't blame him for signing the contract. He just wants to play hockey. But because Holland was such a massive failure yesterday, Quincey is back, and now any little mistake he makes will be magnified 2000% because people are (justifiably) pissed off.
Final thought: How funny is it that the story prior to free agency was "The Wings would like to re-sign Kyle Quincey but it's believed he'll seek a raise on the open market". The irony is killing me.
Have we gotten to the point where keeping Kyle Quincey is justified by comparing him to a first round bust and 7th d-man? The only reason Quincey gets credit for having a stronger second half of the season is because his first half was such an absolute disaster, anything was going to look like an improvement. I remember a couple games alone early in the season where Quincey turnovers led directly to the Wings losing games. So maybe Quincey cut down on those in the second half, but he still provided nothing offensively and took 88 minutes worth of penalties because he isn't good defensively either and/or he's not very smart on the ice.
On top of this, Kyle Quincey got a raise. Just because he showed up every night and was less of a catastrophe for part of a season. Nor does Quincey address any of the Wings issues defensively, being he's not right-handed and doesn't move the puck well (unless you count to the other team.) In addition, to no other team having a serious interest in Quincey through the first six hours of free agency being open.
Complete panic move for the sake of Holland saying he tried and this was his solution for "something" when "nothing" was actually the best course of action.
Myers has had his issues, but he's not the first player to have issues. (And playing for the team and organization he plays for does matter in trying to establish how good he really is and how good he really could be.) You're talking up Tatar when he's had one good season in which he faced relatively easy competition and got tons of o-zone starts and pretty much had zero real expectations weighing on his shoulders. He and Jurco are still largely unproven, and their trade value may be at all-time highs.
I'm not saying I'd necessarily pull the trigger. Myers' contract scares me. But I'd consider it. I love Sproul and genuinely believe he's a future #3 or #2 or maybe even #1, but, realistically, he's at least a couple years from being a guy who can make a difference.
Absolutely right. And we're not paying either one of them (Jurco and Tatar), 5.5 million dollars a season while they work on living up to their potential. We're also not giving up good assets to get them either.
Their potential costs nothing to nurture. Myers costs a lot of cap space, and some real good assets.
We need help on the back end. Myers has tremendous potential, which he's not going to come anywhere close to realizing on a s*** Sabres team. If we lose one of Tatar/Jurco, we still have Nyquist, Pulkkinen, Mantha, and one of Tatar/Jurco. And Datsyuk and Zetterberg. We could do a lot worse.
We could do a lot worse. We could trade Tatar for potential and have Myers turn out to be a taller version of Brendan Smith. Forever a bonehead.
If I'm going to take a gamble on talent, I'll bet on Sproul. He doesn't cost me anything to acquire.
Myers plays for the Sabres. A kid and a pick for someone who won the Calder Trophy and might very well regain that form in a new setting might be worth it. It'd have to be the right kid, though. I wouldn't move Mantha, probably not Nyquist either. Maybe Tatar. Maybe Jurco.
I'm not saying he's The Answer. But I've seen enough of him to feel he'd be worth a good look.
Tatar just score 19 goals as a rookie, and Jurco is a big, skilled, winger the likes of which we've dreamed of in Detroit for years. And you would be willing to move them for a big goober who had a good year and hasn't done s*** since? Barrett Jackman won a Calder too. I wouldn't trade Tatar or Jurco for him, then or now.
The only reason people consider it with Myers is because he's big, which might as well be a magic spell in the hockey world. If Myers had all the same stats and accolades, speed and shot, and was 6'1 205, you'd never...ever...trade Tatar or Jurco for him.