If it was possible, the Wings would keep Stuart indefinitely. He's been a rock. If Stuart could get his family to migrate to Detroit, Stuart by all accounts would love to stay with this team and continue to enjoy high-level teammates and stability in a franchise second-to-none in how they treat their personnel. Unfortunately, it looks like the stars won't be aligning for the Wings and Stuart. It really is a shame. Completely understandable, but its gonna sting for both parties to end a great working relationship. I'd hate to be Stuart having regrets watching the Wings excel when he ends up in LA or San Jose.
Come on man, Bert was phenomenal yesterday... had 4 assists & was a +5... When Mule Pavs and Bert played together this year, they were awesome
While I'm not completely hating on Bertuzzi, we need to look beyond one game. Bertuzzi last night was stellar; really strong on the puck, great passing, and skating. Last night, he was the total package. But that was last night. If he could prove to maintain that level of compete and execute all season or even half of the season, I would agree with you completely. However, he and Mule have had more nights than not where they are benefactors not contributors. Playing with Datsyuk when he is on is a wingers dream. Lately its been great to see someone who skates hard and is willing to handle the puck in traffic, and that has been Nyquist.
I agree with kipwinger, the tendency is to get high on the young talent and think they should be top-line, top-minute right away. Its also the tendency to see stats like 4pt, +5 from Bert or 5 goal nights from Franzen and say "ZOMG!! They are dominant and irreplaceable!", neglecting to mention the fact that they disappear for weeks on end, offering next to no intangibles when they aren't creating scoring opportunities, and their effort is often questioned.
Lets not get too high on the youngsters, but lets not confuse one good night for consistency. Take away Franzen's insane 5 goal game against the Senators last season and he scored 22 goals.
7 games in the recent call up, 6 points while creating numerous chances for his linemates and himself. Soon has he gets the killer instinct (which granted, took Filppula about 5 seasons to learn), he'll really be sparking offense. I'd personally like him to continue to play with Bert and Datsyuk, but I have no doubt F(loat)zen be back on that line come Wednesday. I also like the idea of resting Cleary the remaining games if possible. He hasn't been bad the last few games, but if he is bothered that much by injury it'd be better he bow-out for a few.
We all know the horrific start that Z had to start the season...and we all know how much of a beast he's been lately. After his 4 point night, I wanted to know how many points he had since his first multi point game of the year. Here's some feel good stats for you number guys:
Current totals: (As of 27 Mar 12) 76 games - 21 goals, 45 assists, 66 points, +16
Up until 19 Nov 11 18 games - 3 goals, 4 assists, 7 points, -1
20 Nov 11 on...after first multi-point game 58 games, 18 goals, 41 assists, 59 points, +17
For all those who feared Z was on a decline, he's playing as good as he ever has currently and he's looking pretty fired up going into the playoffs. Assuming the Wings take 4th in the West and with guys coming back from injuries, with a full line up the Wings will be very dangerous in the playoffs. Our D is playing better again after the s*** stretch and Z has been Dats like picking pockets and has been nasty on the forecheck stealing the puck off guys. Assuming we get Helm back in or around the first round, I think the Wings have a shot as much as anyone.
Feb 4 to March 26 24 games, 12 goals, 19 assists, 31 points, +12
Start playing consistently. Keep the pressure on and attack like last game. Eliminate mistakes and bury the Jackets when you get the opportunity. With each game, Pav and Nick will get better, and if nothing else, take enough pressure off of Fil and Hank so that they can continue to dominate.
Detroit 5 - 2 Columbus
Hank and Fil combine for 5 points. Datsyuk with 2 points. PP with at least one goal.
Great game, boys!
Detroit 7 - 2 Columbus
Hank and Fil combine for 6 points Datsyuk with 2 points. PP with two goals in the first two tries.
He is INSANE this season!!! He's always been a beautiful skater but it's like he's even quicker now, it's to do with confidence, the way he's attacking the offensive zone, carrying the puck with more confidence, driving to the net. He's going to have a brilliant playoffs I just know it.
He has been playing out of his mind. To me, he has been the single most consistent player on this team all year. He's had slumps like anyone else, but there was little drop on the ice, just on the scoresheet. He is playing with a lot of swagger and seems to have a real feel for things in the offensive zone.
Last night he was setting the table left, right, and center. He skates hard to back off the D before stopping, circling and creating time and space to make the play. Even when he wasn't lugging the puck and putting it on his linemates' tape, he was causing chaos, backchecking, forechecking, stripping pucks, intercepting outlet passes, or simple giving the puck a good chop to dangerous places. There was a sequence in the 3rd period when he kept the play alive in the offensive zone pretty much single-handedly, while creating numerous chances for linemates by simply chipping the puck away from the opponent to dirty areas.
Keep up the good work, FIL! On pace for 67 points, but I know you'll hit 70 and break 25 goals!
"Wahhh! I got negged! I know more about hockey/Red Wings than ANYONE! You're all stupid!" Seriously, what a bitchfest. Are we really caring about the little red/green numbers on our posts enough to actually include them in discussion? Do you think there is some appeal process?
The Wings have played pretty awful as of late, there is no denying that. Some believe it was all injuries, others thought it was the sorry play on the part of the healthy bodies, others still thought it was all bad bounces/awful luck/vindictive refs.
Last night was nothing like the previous weeks' play. NOTHING. The Wings carried play the almost the entire game. Some of the goals against were bad bounces, others were a bit harder to swallow. However, the fact remains that the Wings showed up for 60 minutes and dominated play 5-on-5. I have bagged on the Wings play for weeks, mostly because they looked lazy and disinterested. Last night, the only doubt I really had was when they gave up that fourth goal, and that doubt was basically "we're carrying play, but no guarantee we get 3 more goals on Ward".
The Wings DESERVED to win last night, which is something they haven't in a couple weeks, and better yet, did so despite bad bounces and a substantial deficit. Full value for the win.
as i said if he plays a full schedule hes a 30 goal guy
And yet, his goals-per-game and points-per-game continue to drop season after season, peaking (shock) in the last contract year he'll ever see. He also no longer plays even halfway physical or does much fore/backchecking. He's a one-note song, and its losing tempo. His career arc is looking like "utility player breaks through as a scorer before losing his utility and failing to score".
The guys I was referring to that have stepped up are Z and Fil. Franzen, I'll grant you but I'm talking about the guys that we rely on to be top-end with an injured lineup or not.
TBH, I just think people are getting pissy simply because this team is playing to a level that should be expected with the lineup they're currently icing unfortunately at one of the most crucial times of the regular season.
There is an injury bug every season, around this same time, to a similar degree. Its strange, almost like clockwork you get to late February and players start dropping like flies. Babcock can only play Fil and Z 20 minutes or so a night, less on back-to-backs, so the team sorely needs Hudler to improve or be replaces and Franzen to play like he is capable of. Neither of these are happening. Cleary is either injured and should grab a seat, or healthy and should grab a seat. White should be playing better and the Wings PP should shoot the puck more, things that can happen with the current lineup.
The most frustrating thing about Injury Season 2012 isn't the players who are out or up, its the players who continue to slack and waste the efforts of the few players we have going. I'd rather see any of Miller, Abdelkader, or Nyquist up with Val and Hank, over someone like Hudler, at least then they would all be skating hard. It might be time to put all of our eggs in two baskets, so to speak. Let the 4th line continue to suck; there's no helping them. Leave the energy line intact and give them second line minutes. Let the third line become the float line, Hudler-Franzen-Cleary. And give Filppula and Zetterberg young skilled help in Nyquist.
Passengers no longer benefit from while hindering the workers, improving the top lines and hopefully forcing the floaters to do less floating.
Yep and someone will go down in the playoffs and they will exit that round. A team built like that is a team built to lose when it matters. A team does not give up 4 SHGs in 6 games because Dats and Lids are missing. A team does not forget how to play defense because Lids is hurt. There are bigger problems with this team than injuries.
We cannot continue with this injury blaming BS. It is not helping matters but it is not the sole reason we have issues. The issues have been there before the injuries. This team just lacks urgency and consistency much of the time.
Babcock needs to find a way to light a fire. Franzen can't hit the broadside of a barn if it was 6 inches in front of him, Happy turn-over Hudler makes better tape to tape passes to the opponent.
Lids and Dats can't take the entire team on their shoulders. I really believe this is Lids final year. He is currently in the longest injury stint of his career and the team is struggling in almost all aspects.
Not to be negative, but this and this.
According to FSD's stats department, the Wings powerplay has been dead last in the NHL over the last 40 games. Injuries are part of the problem, but look at the players making the majority of the costly mistakes and breaking the flow; it ain't the call-ups, its the regulars. I have never seen so many shorthanded goals against, and 4 in 6 games!? That's absurd. Used to be getting a powerplay was an advantage.
I'm sure things are different in the locker room, and Babcock is not the type of coach to call out players in the media, but the perception is zero-accountability for players who are slacking. "One line playing" is an understatement, since that line is all Filppula and Zetterberg, with Hudler ruining 10 times as many good plays as the ones he finally pots like he did last night. Franzen, who is supposed to be Mr. Clutch, Mr. "He'll play when the chips are down". Well the chips are down with a team among the worst on the road on the verge of losing home ice. He has been a floating pansy before and during the absence of Datsyuk, so much so that Babcock finally reunited Helm-Abdelkader-Miller, finding it better to have your energy line intact instead of relocating hustle to pick up one lazy Mule. If you can't get up for these games when your team needs you, you are an empty sweater.
4 short-handed goals in 6 games? That HAS to be a Wings record. Tear some ass, Babcock.
Can we stop chalking it all up to injuries now? Obviously we are missing bodies, but the play of the regulars still in the lineup is horrendous. I love how White has played WITH Lidstrom, but without him, jeeze. And the powerplay lacking punch because its without Pav and Lidas is one thing, but the short-handed goals are completely product of stupid and/or nervous plays at the blueline, again, by regulars.
I hate staying up til the wee hours to watch the Wings phone it in. Leave a message
Talk about a "me first", "grass is greener" type of guy. He bolted for the bucks, leaving Nashville with their pants down, and now flips the script when its most convenient to him. I can understand the Predator's argument, that he is their contracted player who bolted on his own, but the league is rewarding a snake in Radulov. Gets to burn his peanuts contract and then rejoin things as a UFA this summer, getting overpaid ala Ville Leino.
All I gotta say is: these folks coming over from KHL are a bit complacent. Ice gets small real fast. Watch yourself coming up the right-wing boards, Alex. That last step, she's a doozy
Why, because they won tonight when Datsyuk and Lidstrom were out?
Preds are not a team we should worry about in the playoffs.
Word. Nashville won because of a confused PK and an impotent offense, which still managed nearly 40 shots on goal. Add one of either Datsyuk, Lidstrom OR subtract one of either Hudler, Franzen, and this team is plenty
Rinne is formidable, and the Wings have been beat by hot goaltenders before, but Nashville is far from the most potent threat.
Cleary has an excuse. Bad knee and the cortisone injections and draining is not helping. Hudler is just a drain. Period. I cannot watch him anymore without bellowing at an inanimate object.
The number of gift-wrapped opportunities he blew tonight were innumerable. Great play by Flip and Z only to get to that nincompoop. Its an uphill battle with him on that line every night, but tonight we really needed him to get the hell out of the way.