Can we stop chalking it all up to injuries now? Obviously we are missing bodies, but the play of the regulars still in the lineup is horrendous. I love how White has played WITH Lidstrom, but without him, jeeze. And the powerplay lacking punch because its without Pav and Lidas is one thing, but the short-handed goals are completely product of stupid and/or nervous plays at the blueline, again, by regulars.
I hate staying up til the wee hours to watch the Wings phone it in. Leave a message
Talk about a "me first", "grass is greener" type of guy. He bolted for the bucks, leaving Nashville with their pants down, and now flips the script when its most convenient to him. I can understand the Predator's argument, that he is their contracted player who bolted on his own, but the league is rewarding a snake in Radulov. Gets to burn his peanuts contract and then rejoin things as a UFA this summer, getting overpaid ala Ville Leino.
All I gotta say is: these folks coming over from KHL are a bit complacent. Ice gets small real fast. Watch yourself coming up the right-wing boards, Alex. That last step, she's a doozy
Why, because they won tonight when Datsyuk and Lidstrom were out?
Preds are not a team we should worry about in the playoffs.
Word. Nashville won because of a confused PK and an impotent offense, which still managed nearly 40 shots on goal. Add one of either Datsyuk, Lidstrom OR subtract one of either Hudler, Franzen, and this team is plenty
Rinne is formidable, and the Wings have been beat by hot goaltenders before, but Nashville is far from the most potent threat.
Cleary has an excuse. Bad knee and the cortisone injections and draining is not helping. Hudler is just a drain. Period. I cannot watch him anymore without bellowing at an inanimate object.
The number of gift-wrapped opportunities he blew tonight were innumerable. Great play by Flip and Z only to get to that nincompoop. Its an uphill battle with him on that line every night, but tonight we really needed him to get the hell out of the way.
Tough loss - boys played hard. Ian Whites net front positioning is looking pretty poor lately ... stay netside or at least pick up a stick. He sure competes hard but hes a bit if an easily mesmerized meathead with the puck. derp derp derp ... he needs Lids back with him.
The Wings' defense functions like some kind of hive mind; without proximity to the collective intelligence (Lidstrom) everyone gets dumber and less organized.
everyone pounds on Franzen in the regular season, and then come playoff time everybody is ready to bow down to him. Kinda laughable.
With that said, I HATE HUDLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine if Franzen actually played in the regular season. You know, like everyone else on the team? He's paid to play them all. Last year he clocked out during the regular season and got injured in the playoffs, so he wasn't worth jack.
Exactly. Most of us complain about Franzen because we know he's talented enough to produce much more. If he really wanted to, he could be an elite player in the regular season as well. Instead he tends to float for long stretches and looks bored. Even tonight, he didn't do much until the end of the third period when things got interesting.
Based on past history though, I'm sure he'll win us over in the playoffs.
Trump? And if you're going to brag about your education, it might be worthwhile to put the apostrophe in "bachelor's degree". And the cents don't count as part of the seven figures. Besides, who actually says stuff like that?
It's sad that this country's in a state where its self-proclaimed professionals have so little humility and intelligence left. Then again, you do seem to share a lot of the same qualities as most investment bankers.
Yes, and yes.
When Franzen finally scores these days, it seems all too easy; "effortless" because it was without effort. He floats like Lang used to and pots gimmes after Datsyuk or other harder working players do most of the work. It was a good play to Helm last night, which got plenty of Franzen backers saying "look look" but all that proves is that he can make those plays falling outta bed. No one is doubting his skill, but his effort is not there. For me, that's a character flaw that needs to be rectified; everyone is expected to show up, whether you say you're bored or not. In my opinion (that's for you, OP) Franzen will be judged statistically on goals and, just like every other player on this team, intangibly on effort. The effort isn't there, and his goal totals since signing his contract are pretty lame. Leading the team doesn't count for much when its only 25 through 68 games, and that's all you really do. Cleary had 26 goals in 68 games last year. Franzen's potential is MUCH greater, but being the teams leading goalscorer is becoming less and less of an accomplishment ("in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king").
TO THE OP: Lording education and salary on a hockey forum is moronic. Entitlement at its worst, but thanks for your credentials: Bachelor's Degree recipient, overpaid, self-aggrandizing, whiny, confrontational, and has played hockey. Way to go! That ought to get you into at least the 45th percentile!
Filppula is playing up to the potential that I truly believe the majority (albeit not overwhelming) of folks on LGW thought he had in him. Hate to break it to the OP, but you are not some oracle for defending a guy who most people enjoy watching play. Most trade talk had Filppula as a legitimate top-end outgoing asset to acquire another top-end asset, which is how trades work (not "Hudler and a 2nd for Nash"). I'm happy to have him and never thought he was being "paid on potential" like some people did, simply because he has always given 100% effort, played strong defensively, and made his linemates better. Statistics were then and are now, a bonus. He has been worth $3m since he signed and has since surpassed it. He is finally cashing in on the scoresheet, and the play last night was a great display of the poise and confidence he is playing with. Keep up the good work, Filppula!
Funny... Johan leads this team in goals yet his play has diminished and folks have some high expectations when things don't go his way
Franzen benefits off the backs of harder working players. Without someone else to gift wrap them, he is more or less worthless. Effort is lacking and he is becoming more one-dimensional by the day; a far cry from where he started busting ass on the 3rd/4th lines. He hasn't stepped up at all with players out.
Well, their biggest beef with Kronwall is that he doesn't fight after hits. Any time a player is suspended for a hit, people whine about how they're trying to take big hits out of the game. But having to drop the gloves after a big hit somehow doesn't discourage hitting to them.
Though there are people there who feel he somehow should've not made the hit knowing he was going to hit Voracek so hard.
I can understand people wishing Kronwall would fight just once or twice after a big hit, but it's mostly nonsense over there.
I understand why folks call for him to "answer" for his hits, clean or otherwise, but it is complete nonsense. More than anything its butt-hurt.
Lets for the sake of simplicity call it Kesler-Clowe Syndrome (KCS): if a smaller guy, who has never fought before and seems in their mind physically inferior to themselves, all of a sudden puts them on tomorrow's highlight reel by folding them like a lawn chair, despite a few inches of height and pounds of weight, the knee-jerk response is butt-hurt and the KCS desire to redeem one's self.
Kronwall will "troll", shrug it off and get twice his moneys worth with the hit and a penalty for your retaliation, which as a Wings fan is one of the best parts of watching Kronwall do his thing (though sometimes the refs jumping in front of him is a bit...well, you know). Its one thing to want to retaliate in the moment, on the ice, and for some, their pride is worth the two minutes (especially since the Wings PP is so flacid). Its another thing to carry your pout into the post-game interviews and say something as moronic as "you can't lay a hit like that without having to fight afterwards", like there is some unwritten rule that if you're hurt or embarrassed in play you get to even it out on my face.
i mean in general, if you say anything like " i think kronwall is gonna crush someone tonight" they will give you a warning, tsn does the same thing. When we played the canucks i wrote "I think kronwall will catch booth tonight" and they refused to publish it.
Its funny how moderators can be so ridiculously bias and still be allowed to lord over open forums. Even on HockeyStreams, hearing Wings fan and moderator Steve-O is a bit shameful. Every call against the Wings is unjustified, every hit on a Wing dirty, every opposition goal is either an uncalled penalty or would-be disallowed goal. The fates conspire against the Wings in everything and the opposition always has an unfair advantage.
Me, I'm a "blame the Wings first" kinda guy, just ask Crymson, who is of the "***** about the bitching" persuasion