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#2270066 Call the team out

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 14 March 2012 - 10:24 AM

The guys I was referring to that have stepped up are Z and Fil. Franzen, I'll grant you but I'm talking about the guys that we rely on to be top-end with an injured lineup or not.

TBH, I just think people are getting pissy simply because this team is playing to a level that should be expected with the lineup they're currently icing unfortunately at one of the most crucial times of the regular season.

There is an injury bug every season, around this same time, to a similar degree. Its strange, almost like clockwork you get to late February and players start dropping like flies. Babcock can only play Fil and Z 20 minutes or so a night, less on back-to-backs, so the team sorely needs Hudler to improve or be replaces and Franzen to play like he is capable of. Neither of these are happening. Cleary is either injured and should grab a seat, or healthy and should grab a seat. White should be playing better and the Wings PP should shoot the puck more, things that can happen with the current lineup.

The most frustrating thing about Injury Season 2012 isn't the players who are out or up, its the players who continue to slack and waste the efforts of the few players we have going. I'd rather see any of Miller, Abdelkader, or Nyquist up with Val and Hank, over someone like Hudler, at least then they would all be skating hard. It might be time to put all of our eggs in two baskets, so to speak. Let the 4th line continue to suck; there's no helping them. Leave the energy line intact and give them second line minutes. Let the third line become the float line, Hudler-Franzen-Cleary. And give Filppula and Zetterberg young skilled help in Nyquist.

Passengers no longer benefit from while hindering the workers, improving the top lines and hopefully forcing the floaters to do less floating.

#2270049 Call the team out

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 14 March 2012 - 09:33 AM

Yep and someone will go down in the playoffs and they will exit that round. A team built like that is a team built to lose when it matters. A team does not give up 4 SHGs in 6 games because Dats and Lids are missing. A team does not forget how to play defense because Lids is hurt. There are bigger problems with this team than injuries.


We cannot continue with this injury blaming BS. It is not helping matters but it is not the sole reason we have issues. The issues have been there before the injuries. This team just lacks urgency and consistency much of the time.

Babcock needs to find a way to light a fire. Franzen can't hit the broadside of a barn if it was 6 inches in front of him, Happy turn-over Hudler makes better tape to tape passes to the opponent.

Lids and Dats can't take the entire team on their shoulders. I really believe this is Lids final year. He is currently in the longest injury stint of his career and the team is struggling in almost all aspects.

Not to be negative, but this and this.

According to FSD's stats department, the Wings powerplay has been dead last in the NHL over the last 40 games. Injuries are part of the problem, but look at the players making the majority of the costly mistakes and breaking the flow; it ain't the call-ups, its the regulars. I have never seen so many shorthanded goals against, and 4 in 6 games!? That's absurd. Used to be getting a powerplay was an advantage.

I'm sure things are different in the locker room, and Babcock is not the type of coach to call out players in the media, but the perception is zero-accountability for players who are slacking. "One line playing" is an understatement, since that line is all Filppula and Zetterberg, with Hudler ruining 10 times as many good plays as the ones he finally pots like he did last night. Franzen, who is supposed to be Mr. Clutch, Mr. "He'll play when the chips are down". Well the chips are down with a team among the worst on the road on the verge of losing home ice. He has been a floating pansy before and during the absence of Datsyuk, so much so that Babcock finally reunited Helm-Abdelkader-Miller, finding it better to have your energy line intact instead of relocating hustle to pick up one lazy Mule. If you can't get up for these games when your team needs you, you are an empty sweater.

4 short-handed goals in 6 games? That HAS to be a Wings record. Tear some ass, Babcock.

#2269983 3/13 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Kings 5

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 14 March 2012 - 12:07 AM

Can we stop chalking it all up to injuries now? Obviously we are missing bodies, but the play of the regulars still in the lineup is horrendous. I love how White has played WITH Lidstrom, but without him, jeeze. And the powerplay lacking punch because its without Pav and Lidas is one thing, but the short-handed goals are completely product of stupid and/or nervous plays at the blueline, again, by regulars.

I hate staying up til the wee hours to watch the Wings phone it in. Leave a message :P

#2269618 Alex Radulov returning nhl playoffs?

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 13 March 2012 - 06:19 PM

Talk about a "me first", "grass is greener" type of guy. He bolted for the bucks, leaving Nashville with their pants down, and now flips the script when its most convenient to him. I can understand the Predator's argument, that he is their contracted player who bolted on his own, but the league is rewarding a snake in Radulov. Gets to burn his peanuts contract and then rejoin things as a UFA this summer, getting overpaid ala Ville Leino.

All I gotta say is: these folks coming over from KHL are a bit complacent. Ice gets small real fast. Watch yourself coming up the right-wing boards, Alex. That last step, she's a doozy :P

#2269198 Who are the biggest threats in playoffs?

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 11:03 PM

Why, because they won tonight when Datsyuk and Lidstrom were out?

Preds are not a team we should worry about in the playoffs.

Word. Nashville won because of a confused PK and an impotent offense, which still managed nearly 40 shots on goal. Add one of either Datsyuk, Lidstrom OR subtract one of either Hudler, Franzen, and this team is plenty <_<

Rinne is formidable, and the Wings have been beat by hot goaltenders before, but Nashville is far from the most potent threat.

#2269195 3/10 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Predators 3

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

Cleary has an excuse. Bad knee and the cortisone injections and draining is not helping. Hudler is just a drain. Period. I cannot watch him anymore without bellowing at an inanimate object.

The number of gift-wrapped opportunities he blew tonight were innumerable. Great play by Flip and Z only to get to that nincompoop. Its an uphill battle with him on that line every night, but tonight we really needed him to get the hell out of the way.

#2269188 3/10 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Predators 3

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 10:52 PM

Tough loss - boys played hard. Ian Whites net front positioning is looking pretty poor lately ... stay netside or at least pick up a stick. He sure competes hard but hes a bit if an easily mesmerized meathead with the puck. derp derp derp ... he needs Lids back with him.

The Wings' defense functions like some kind of hive mind; without proximity to the collective intelligence (Lidstrom) everyone gets dumber and less organized.

#2269179 3/10 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Predators 3

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 10:46 PM

Rinne was good. Hudler was awful. Franzen was invisible. PP is flacid. PK is confused. Status quo.

Other than that, not too shabby. Good effort from most of the squad.

#2269071 Brendan Smith watch thread

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

Smith looks like an upgrade adequate replacement for Stuart for next season.

That's better. Stuart is great, a steady defensive defenseman. His absence will hurt, but Smith will definitely help soften the blow.

#2269062 3/10 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Predators 3

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 09:36 PM

everyone pounds on Franzen in the regular season, and then come playoff time everybody is ready to bow down to him. Kinda laughable.

With that said, I HATE HUDLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine if Franzen actually played in the regular season. You know, like everyone else on the team? He's paid to play them all. Last year he clocked out during the regular season and got injured in the playoffs, so he wasn't worth jack.

#2268940 Smith/Kindl/Ericsson

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 05:53 PM

Ericsson won't be "grooming" anyone. He's young, and anyway his playstyle is nothing like Smith's.

Ericsson's playstyle:
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#2268838 What do you guys have to say about Filpulla now?

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 10 March 2012 - 09:43 AM

Exactly. Most of us complain about Franzen because we know he's talented enough to produce much more. If he really wanted to, he could be an elite player in the regular season as well. Instead he tends to float for long stretches and looks bored. Even tonight, he didn't do much until the end of the third period when things got interesting.

Based on past history though, I'm sure he'll win us over in the playoffs.


Trump? And if you're going to brag about your education, it might be worthwhile to put the apostrophe in "bachelor's degree". And the cents don't count as part of the seven figures. Besides, who actually says stuff like that?

It's sad that this country's in a state where its self-proclaimed professionals have so little humility and intelligence left. Then again, you do seem to share a lot of the same qualities as most investment bankers.

Yes, and yes.

When Franzen finally scores these days, it seems all too easy; "effortless" because it was without effort. He floats like Lang used to and pots gimmes after Datsyuk or other harder working players do most of the work. It was a good play to Helm last night, which got plenty of Franzen backers saying "look look" but all that proves is that he can make those plays falling outta bed. No one is doubting his skill, but his effort is not there. For me, that's a character flaw that needs to be rectified; everyone is expected to show up, whether you say you're bored or not. In my opinion (that's for you, OP) Franzen will be judged statistically on goals and, just like every other player on this team, intangibly on effort. The effort isn't there, and his goal totals since signing his contract are pretty lame. Leading the team doesn't count for much when its only 25 through 68 games, and that's all you really do. Cleary had 26 goals in 68 games last year. Franzen's potential is MUCH greater, but being the teams leading goalscorer is becoming less and less of an accomplishment ("in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king").

TO THE OP: Lording education and salary on a hockey forum is moronic. Entitlement at its worst, but thanks for your credentials: Bachelor's Degree recipient, overpaid, self-aggrandizing, whiny, confrontational, and has played hockey. Way to go! That ought to get you into at least the 45th percentile! :clap:

Filppula is playing up to the potential that I truly believe the majority (albeit not overwhelming) of folks on LGW thought he had in him. Hate to break it to the OP, but you are not some oracle for defending a guy who most people enjoy watching play. Most trade talk had Filppula as a legitimate top-end outgoing asset to acquire another top-end asset, which is how trades work (not "Hudler and a 2nd for Nash"). I'm happy to have him and never thought he was being "paid on potential" like some people did, simply because he has always given 100% effort, played strong defensively, and made his linemates better. Statistics were then and are now, a bonus. He has been worth $3m since he signed and has since surpassed it. He is finally cashing in on the scoresheet, and the play last night was a great display of the poise and confidence he is playing with. Keep up the good work, Filppula!

#2268760 Smith/Kindl/Ericsson

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 09 March 2012 - 10:34 PM

I don't want to see Smith come out of the line-up. He has game breaking ability as shown tonight, calmness under pressure, and can throw down when called upon :thumbup:

This. Don't want to see another game this season without him in the line-up. I think he's been THAT good.

#2268704 3/9 GDT : Kings 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 09 March 2012 - 09:56 PM



#2268658 3/9 GDT : Kings 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 09 March 2012 - 09:46 PM

Funny... Johan leads this team in goals yet his play has diminished and folks have some high expectations when things don't go his way

Franzen benefits off the backs of harder working players. Without someone else to gift wrap them, he is more or less worthless. Effort is lacking and he is becoming more one-dimensional by the day; a far cry from where he started busting ass on the 3rd/4th lines. He hasn't stepped up at all with players out.

...s***... goal and Z goes down...