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#2266933 Cleary, Bertuzzi, Hudler and Franzen

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 05 March 2012 - 07:00 PM

It's not like he is getting paid anywhere near what a 40 goal scorer gets paid. :ph34r:


Not sure if that was sarcasm or not. Franzen's cap hit might be $3.95m but he is getting paid $5.25m, and given the security he was given with such a long-term contract, its fair to argue that he should be playing like closer to $6.0m. He got on the team by playing tough, physical, and responsible while going to the hard areas. He's been doing less and less of that since signing the contract. The production rates are down, but he has also made himself tremendously one-dimensional.

Third year of an ELEVEN year front-loaded contract and he is already playing down to the cap hit. He better stay pretty damn consistent, otherwise I wonder how he'll be playing by the time he is actually making $3.95m (which will be in 5 years, for those wondering). Like GMRwings said, what happens when he plays uninterested and "bored" during the regular season (when everyone else is required to put in the effort) and he gets to playoffs and either doesn't perform, or like last year, gets injured? What are the Wings paying for then?


#2266674 3/4 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 04 March 2012 - 07:21 PM

- Kronners had an outstanding game, and I was very comfortable watching him log huge minutes tonight... this is huge for us knowing we can rely on him when Nick if Nick is hurt for a game
- Smith continues to amaze me more and more... everything he does tells me he deserves to be on this team over Kindl and Ericsson... continue to the great play
- Franzen is so freakin lazy... I was ticked off then, and still am now, that we let Hossa walk to keep lazyboy Franzen
- I thought Fil and Hank tried tonight, but as the game progressed they seemed to look tired
- Helm, Miller, Abs were fantastic

Lastly, I just want to say kudos to the 2 referees tonight, Dan O Halloran and Don Manhaviston (however you say it) who did a wonderful job officiating this game. They let both teams get away with a lot, and called what needed to be called and, more than anything, were CONSISTENT with their calls. Hope to have more officials like this.

Hopefully Nick is back tuesday, go wings!


Pretty much all of this. Good to see there wasn't a powerplay every 3 minutes. These games lately have had too little 5-on-5 play and its frustrating and boring to watch (especially given the Wings' special teams woes). Also, Hank and Filppula were the only forwards going outside of the third line. I get exhausted for them seeing how they have to drag Hudler and/or Franzen around all the time. And a tremendous game by Smith.

As I said, its a pretty good indicator when you are short-handed on defense and have an emergency goaltender switch and neither of those are the problem against a poor defensive team. Most of the forward unit are dogging and watching the play, save for a few in Zetterberg, Filppula, Helm, Abdelkader, and Miller.


#2266667 3/4 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 04 March 2012 - 07:07 PM

Gems from the Blackhawks' homers:

*Filppula is mugged by Keith and Seabrook* "Slash by Filppula! Team toughness! Keith is not going to take that and they go after Filppula! They'll like that penalty; standing up for one another!"

*Hawks goes to hit Kronwall and gets laid out* "It looks like Kronwall might have gotten his stick up.... No... but he looks to have been on his toes when he hit him... either way, the Hawks player is giving up 25 or 30 lbs" (Either that guy is 165lbs or they think Kronwall is a fairy tale monster after what he did to Havlat)

*Kronwall with a clean hit, Bickel takes a stupid retaliating penalty* "Team toughness! The Hawks will gladly take that penalty! Great to see them standing up for one another! Good penalty to take if you're a Hawk"

And pretty much any time the Hawks jumped someone with 2+ guys, like they did to Holmstrom (shocking, with no call) you hear "team toughness" followed by "those are good penalties" followed by a justification such as "I think Holmstrom broke a stick trying to get the puck off the net which is why the Hawks took exception" which would on the replay be proven false.

And the play-by-play guy wants to badly to be Harry Caray, right down to the half-slurring and the goofy changes in voice inflection like he is reading a Dr. Seuss book to his niece.


#2266657 3/4 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 04 March 2012 - 06:53 PM

Watching Franzen lose physical battles along the boards to guys like Kane and Keith is pretty frustrating. They're great players, but with his size, he should be tougher to handle. Just looks like jelly out there.

This. Same goes for Cleary. Both used to be tenacious, now they give it one wack and watch.


#2266655 3/4 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 04 March 2012 - 06:51 PM

The worst part about this game? MacDonald getting thrown in after the Howard injury wasn't an issue. The defense played pretty damn good considering they were down a man or two for 90% of the game. The problem was the forward unit that was the same that lit up Minnesota just two days ago.

Too many passengers.


#2266638 3/4 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 04 March 2012 - 06:42 PM

Watching our powerplay is one of the most frustrating things there is. That, and watching half the team float and cough up pucks. Too much ice time for Bertuzzi, Franzen, Cleary, and god bless him, Holmstrom. Can't help injuries, but you can play smarter and harder, for starters.

Bad play by Stuart and blown opportunities were the difference today. Watching it with the 'Hawks awful homers is the icing on the cake...


#2266296 Brad Stuart's family issues

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 04 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

haroldsnepsts :clap:

While I am a longtime fan of our beloved team, I know that they are hardly models of wholesome family values. All of these players have chosen career over family...right or wrong. I am in no way judging as my own career is very dear to me.

Lidstrom, as well as any pro in any sport will play as long as their bodies allow them and they are earning the big bucks. I doubt any capable pro in any league would ever stop playing and earn a commoner's wage for the sake of "family." Its all about that green. And all of the trophy wives sitting in the stands know that.


Brian Rafalski. $6 Million dollars.

"This was probably the most challenging season of my career, both physically, mentally and spiritually, but it was also the most rewarding and most blessed...The decision was made between myself and my wife approximately two months ago. We went through a long process of weighing different factors in our lives. At the end of the day it came down to priorities, with the top three priorities being serving God, serving my family and serving others."


#2266108 Standings sans Loser Point

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 03 March 2012 - 12:33 PM

So we all have our opinions about the "loser point" and what it does for overall parity (closing the gap between the best teams and worst teams) and changing the standings among the playoff teams. I personally think that its pretty terrible, less so because of overall parity and more so for what it does to playoff seeding. Also, I'll include the standings without the automatic Top 3 seeding of the division leaders. As both a forum for debate and discussion, as well as plain old interest, I figured I'd open and try to update every few days, the standings as they sit with and without the loser point:

[As of 3/4/2012]

Western Conference 1-10 Standings:
1) VANCOUVER 66GP 90PTS
2) DETROIT 65GP 89PTS
3) PHOENIX 65GP 75PTS
4) ST LOUIS 66GP 89PTS
5) NASHVILLE 65GP 83PTS
6) CHICAGO 66GP 77PTS
7) SAN JOSE 64GP 73PTS
8) DALLAS 65GP 73PTS
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9) LOS ANGELES 65GP 72PTS
10) COLORADO 66GP 70PTS

WITHOUT 3rd PT or Automatic seeding of Division leaders:
1) DETROIT 65GP 43W
2) VANCOUVER 66GP 41W
3) ST LOUIS 66GP 41W
4) NASHVILLE 65GP 38W
5) CHICAGO 66GP 35W
6) DALLAS 65GP 34W
7) SAN JOSE 64GP 33W
8) PHOENIX 65GP 33W
---------------------------
9) COLORADO 66GP 33W
10) LOS ANGELES 65GP 30W

Using the old tie system, no division leader seeding:
1) ST LOUIS 66GP 84PTS
2) VANCOUVER 66GP 82PTS
3) DETROIT 65GP 81PTS
4) NASHVILLE 65GP 77PTS
5) CHICAGO 66GP 69PTS
6) DALLAS 65GP 68PTS
7) PHOENIX 65GP 67PTS
8) SAN JOSE 64GP 63PTS
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9) LOS ANGELES 65GP 63PTS
10) CALGARY 65GP 61PTS


WESTERN CONFERENCE MATCHUPS:

As they are:

1) VANCOUVER VS. 8) DALLAS
2) DETROIT VS. 7) SAN JOSE
3) PHOENIX VS. 6) CHICAGO
4) ST LOUIS VS. 5) NASHVILLE

Alternative 1 (no loser point or division leader):

1) DETROIT VS. 8) PHOENIX
2) VANCOUVER VS. 7) SAN JOSE
3) ST LOUIS VS. 6) DALLAS
4) NASHVILLE VS. 5) CHICAGO


Alternative 2 (2 pts for REG/OT Win, 1 pt for tie, no shootout):

1) ST LOUIS VS. 8) SAN JOSE
2) VANCOUVER VS. 7) PHOENIX
3) DETROIT VS. 6) DALLAS
4) NASHVILLE VS. 5) CHICAGO

Some folks would prefer the old system of ties after OT, whereby one point is awarded to each team. I personally prefer to raise the stakes by leaving the format the same, adding longer overtimes with perhaps a 4on4 then 3on3 format before shootouts, while making wins in any case 2PTS and losses in any case 0PTS. This will eliminate teams who "wait out" the third period and overtime when outmatched, content to get a point and try their luck at a shootout, while increasing the desperation on the better team that night to close out the game before reaching a shootout where anything can happen. Either way, I think automatic seeding of division winners should be eliminated.


#2265204 Filppula is "too nice".

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 29 February 2012 - 07:25 PM

This is when his contract is really starting to look like a bargain.


I remember when he first signed the contract, a LOT of folks around here were calling it a bad deal. "Getting paid on potential" I believe was the main gripe. Even before the offensive breakout, Filppula was worth it. And seeing how the cap has continued to go up, $3 mil for a player of Filppula's caliber is ridiculous.

Keep going Fil, I'm guessing near 70 points by season's end! :clap:


#2265003 Filppula is "too nice".

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 February 2012 - 10:07 PM

Great to see Filppula's effort night in, night out. I've said it before, but this guy brings it as consistently as anyone in the league. He is tenacious every game and make the team better, even when he isn't showing up on the scoresheet. To date he is on pace for 64+ points and 24+ goals. As the team pushes towards the playoffs and gets healthy, its conceivable that his score pace picks up even more. Just like Z, I see him scoring closer to 70 points by the end of the season. Points aside, he brings more than most.

Good on ya, Fil :clap: :clap: :clap:


#2262999 Johan Franzen Depreciation

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 26 February 2012 - 12:27 PM

The Wings have put together a great season thus far. Filppula has emerged as the player we knew he could be. The third line is starting to mesh into a real force, the type you need to win in the playoffs. The back-end has shown sparks of brilliance prior to recent miscues. Datsyuk continues to prove time and again he is the elite among the elite, despite having less help than most national media think he does. Even a down season from Zetterberg has shown speed and effort which I believe will see him closer to 70 points than the 62 points he is on pace for.

The real sore spot from game to game is the disappearing act of Johan Franzen. He has become a floater, getting away from the inside game that has made him successful in the past. His goals are not coming as easy as he seems to hope, coinciding with his lack of effort. For me, there are two categories Wings forwards have fallen into: 1) those who seem to put in the effort every night, pick up their linemates, and often seem to deserve more on the scoresheet than their linemates' play allows, 2) the passengers, the beneficiary, floating, showing little effort while allowing the first group to do all the work, often seeming to "pad" their stats on the backs of their more tenacious linemates.

For me, Datsyuk and Filppula have proven themselves members of the first group. On the flipside, Hudler and Franzen are prime examples of the latter group. Franzen in particular has shown diminishing effort and thus diminishing returns since his 11-year contract was signed at the tail end of the 2008-2009 season. Watching his work ethic, or lack thereof, game in game out has to be a tremendous frustration for Wings coaching and management, as it is for fans. After a decent start to his season, Franzen returned to his inconsistent, uninterested ways:

This season he is on pace for: 81gp 29g 31a 60pt (beneficiary of Datsyuk)
In the last 22gp: 11pts 7g 4a -3
If his current play continues: 81gp 29g 27a 56pt

Looking at Franzen's production and salary since prior to and after signing current contract:
08-09: .479g/gp .831pt/gp $1.15m
09-10: .370g/gp .778pt/gp $5.50m
10-11: .368g/gp .724pt/gp $5.50m
11-12: .358g/gp .741pt/gp $5.25m
Last 22gp: .318g/gp .500pt/gp

Based on his production prior to signing
The Red Wings are paying for: 82gp 40g 29a 69pt
Unfortunately, they are getting: 25-29g 41-60pt (based on slump-season)

And what about his playoff performance? To me, Franzen's worth will always be measured 60%-75% by his playoff production and effort. But in this "what have you done for me lately" league, what has he done for the team lately?

10-11 playoffs: .250g/gp .375pt/gp
previous three playoffs: .608g/gp 1.159pt/gp

Is Franzen on a permanent downswing? To me, he is not the player the Wings are paying for and hasn't been since signing his "major contract". He is not getting any younger, has always been injury prone, and even when healthy, lacks the strength of character to sustain interest and effort throughout a season, let alone throughout the remainder of his career. Is there anything that can be done to correct his attitude? Would you be willing to trade him? If so, what would you want in return? Could he be packaged to acquire an elite scorer (Nash, etc.)?

I'm not saying we should, or could trade him with adequate return, but the future is not looking fantastic for Franzen.


#2250542 The SuperSkills competition is an embarrassment

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 29 January 2012 - 09:27 AM

i only watched it for datsyuk and he blew it in the breakaway.

******* waste


This. Only watched for a chance to see Datsyuk dazzle. I saw plenty of Patrick Kane, Corey Perry, and company (although mini-stick move should have won that event). Watch for two plus hours and what do I see? Datsyuk takes 15 seconds to spin himself dizzy around cones and then half-heartedly does his go to backhand-to-forehand move against a goaltender who was expecting it. Way to utilize the best talent in the whole fiasco. Should have had him in the passing event since Kane took forever, you can't tell me Pasha wouldn't have smoked him. They didn't even have him passing for accuracy or one-timers, he literally cooled his heels for the whole event.

No wonder players opt out. The game is one thing, but most of those guys during the draft, media day, and skill competition have to be thinking "I'm leaving my family for THIS?"


#2250536 Short Datsyuk Interview

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 29 January 2012 - 09:01 AM

This is a great interview with Boylen from THN. Short, sweet, and plenty of Datsyuk's trademark character. Extremely humble and appreciative about being so well-respected and the last question he answers is a complete gem. Somehow he says something completely unexpected (at least to me) and it is far better than any other thing he could have (and anyone else would have) said.

Enjoy!

http://www.thehockey...el-Datsyuk.html


#2250062 Stars' Brenden Morrow available?

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=386166

Fresh from the Bob McKenzie rumor mill:

Here's a question a lot of contending NHL teams are asking today: Is Brenden Morrow of the Dallas Stars available for trade?

There is certainly some talk within the NHL community anticipating that Morrow "may" become available between now and the NHL trade deadline.

But the Stars are right in the thick of the playoff race, currently sitting in 10th place, just three points out of eighth and have played fewer games than any of the teams immediately in front of them.

Morrow has this season and one more with an annual cap hit of $4.1 million, and he has a no-trade clause.

So if Morrow doesn't want to move, he's not going anywhere and the Stars are certainly not in a position where they necessarily "need" to trade their captain. And because of the NTC, they're not about to aggressively shop him either.

But that doesn't mean there aren't contenders interested in targeting him as a possible acquisition.



Seems like its mostly speculation, but could be interesting. Despite a dip in production, possibly due to injury and reduced ice-time, I always thought the guy was built for the playoffs. He plays with a lot of energy, hits like a cannonball, and can score some clutch goals. His production has been dropping and he hasn't had a sniff at the playoffs since the Wings eliminated the Stars in 2008.

However, if available at little cost and willing to play with a cup contender like the Wings, I'd definitely be interested. What do you folks think? What is he worth?


#2249589 1/25 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Canadiens 7

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 25 January 2012 - 08:24 PM

May as well rest our core players.


From the looks of it, that first period was our core players resting :P