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In Topic: Mantha's Injury

18 September 2014 - 04:29 PM

Well I guess we'll never know how things "would have" played out, but I still believe that Mantha had a zero shot at making the Red Wings out of camp, therefore Mantha's injury has no barring on whether or not Jurco makes the big club. In my opinion the only thing that will keep Jurco down to start the season is if Alfredsson is ready to go on October 9th against Boston - I hope he is.


I agree with your sentiment, but I don't think there was zero chance. Its all irrelevant now, but I feel that if he had truly shown he was ready - by tearing it up in preseason games - Babs would have asked KH to find a way to have him on the roster. And in that way, that's why I feel it had a potential impact on Jurco's making the team or not. 


As for Alfie, unfortunately I can't see him starting the year with the wings especially as he isn't coming to camp. I reckon it;s more likely that he signs around December and plays half a season, assuming his back holds up. It's not like he'll be out of the state and its make the team or go home, now that his family is in Michigan. 

In Topic: Mantha's Injury

18 September 2014 - 03:21 PM


Not the sole reason but if Mantha had impressed enough to make the team, that pretty much would guarantee Jurco would start the year in GR at least in my opinion.  With one less body to compete against, his chances of sticking with the big club at the start of the year improve dramatically, especially without Alfie around & his main competition being Callahan & Ferraro who I still think would both make it through waivers.


Exactly. It's one less (and more heralded prospect) for him to have to compete against. Now all he's got to really worry about is Cleary. 

In Topic: Mantha's Injury

18 September 2014 - 02:30 PM

As much as this news sucks, I'm going to put a positive spin on it, because I feel like it. 


1. This increases dramatically the possibilities of Jurco starting the year and remaining with the Wings - where hopefully they'll reunite the kid line from last year with him, Tatar and Sheahan, whom I thought were truly tremendous. Not only does this add to our scoring depth, it allows the 3 of them to grow their game at the NHL level together, feeding off each other and reaching new heights. Add into the fact that if D and Z are healthy, they won't be playing against top line opponents, which maximises their opportunities for success.


2. While we may have seen Mantha start the year with the Wings (I felt it unlikely, but no one could count it out), his injury/rehab process will mean that he will definitely start his pro career in GR, which is at this stage what I feel is best for him. Get his confidence playing against men, and then he can help the Wings down the stretch next year or as a playoff black ace, while getting a cup of coffee at some point along the way. 


3. It opens the door for others - Pulkkinen especially, and that free roster spot may now open the door for someone like Callahan to prove he's worth more than say Andersson.


The negatives I can see from this:


1. Mantha doesn't get to even participate in camp, nor play pre-season games against pro opposition. 


2. He'll be rehabbing, unable to use that leg for 5-6 weeks, which will put his progress back a little way. By no means is it insurmountable, but not the kind of start you'd want to your first pro season.

In Topic: Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

17 September 2014 - 05:04 PM

On the plus side of the Alfie news, if he's not signed then Jurco is on the roster and the team can shelf this absurd "Helm's a winger" idea.  Thank god.











Unless ties still go to the veteran...in which case Abby's pulling the piano again.  Ugh.


Hmm, I'd like to think that Jurco's got it nailed, as long as he has a strong camp. I'm just worried about Cleary. As long as Jurco has a strong camp though, I can't see why they'd keep him off the roster if he's played well enough. 

In Topic: Nice article on Mantha

17 September 2014 - 01:48 PM

That team could ill-afford to keep DeKeyser down then. Between the injuries and porous defense, the Wings needed DeKeyser to even make the playoffs. Babs said after that they probably don't get in without DeKeyser around. That's a pretty rare example of the Wings not opting to bury a player in Grand Rapids and it would have been a colossal failure to do so.


Add into that equation the fact that Babs also said that if DeKeyser hadn't got injured, we'd probably beaten Chicago.