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#2537595 Ericsson/Smith Day-to-Day with groin/hip flexor issues

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 29 September 2014 - 02:59 PM

You know what, I reckon all these sore groins, sore this sore that and whatnot are just simply a product of the media life and times that we live in. 10 years ago we didn't hear these things all the time in the preseason because there was no twitter around to keep people up to date 24/7. 


Just me reckoning. 

#2537198 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 24 September 2014 - 04:04 PM

Calm down everyone. It's a mild shoulder strain, 2-4 weeks is nothing. Now is the best time for Pavel to rest, and it gives him a chance to get it healed fully with the prospect of missing maybe a week's worth of the regular season. 


Injuries happen. it's a contact sport. Datsyuk's injury was a freak, he was just hit hard along the boards. No one is ever going to say you're not allowed to hit someone while they're coming down the wall like that, like Pavel was. Hitting the corner like that is a freak. It happens. He'll be fine, and missing a week now is better than missing a week down the stretch. No amount of conditioning could prepare even the fittest athlete in the world for a collision like that. 


Yes it sucks that Pavel won't be in the lineup on opening night, but I don't see why everyone is just absolutely clamouring with depression at the fact that 3 guys are hurt already. All 3 injuries were freaks. Helm can still play, just slap on a cage and as long as he can breathe it's all good. And we're not the only team with injuries this early. Look around the league. Malkin and Crosby aren't practicing, Drouin broke his hand, Jordan Staal fractured his leg, Stepan also fractured his leg. So were aren't alone. it happens. Just be thankful that Pavel isn't out for that long and that during that time he can still keep his legs fresh

#2537015 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 23 September 2014 - 04:01 PM

Only on LGW can you find this kind of reaction to 2 minor injuries in a simple preseason game that no one really cared about anyway. 


Pavel will be fine. Give him a weeks rest and he's still got another week to get ready for the start of the season. A broken nose is a broken nose. Helm will get over it. Mantha's injury was a freak, but he probably wasn't going to make the roster straight away anyway. All that has done is just quietened everyone talking about him.

#2536756 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 22 September 2014 - 04:25 PM

I wanted to put this in its own thread but decided to post here instead.  I just wanted to comment on how awesome it is that the organization has fully embraced social media, and particularly the "all-access" philosophy they seem to have developed.  Between the Red Wings and Griffins Youtube channels I've watched behind the scenes videos of last year's playoffs, development camp, the prospect tournament, and now main camp, along with individual profiles of many of the up and coming guys as well as Wings regulars.  In each case the footage was more insightful and better made than the hyper-dramatic, scripted, crap that we were fed on 24/7 last year.  No B.S., all hockey.  Exactly what I want. 


Kudos to the organization for giving fans an absolutely massive amount of media to help get them through the long offseason. 


Couldn't agree more, even if all those prospect profiles just served to over hype everyone in my eyes!! 

#2536524 Mantha's Injury

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 18 September 2014 - 02:30 PM

As much as this news sucks, I'm going to put a positive spin on it, because I feel like it. 


1. This increases dramatically the possibilities of Jurco starting the year and remaining with the Wings - where hopefully they'll reunite the kid line from last year with him, Tatar and Sheahan, whom I thought were truly tremendous. Not only does this add to our scoring depth, it allows the 3 of them to grow their game at the NHL level together, feeding off each other and reaching new heights. Add into the fact that if D and Z are healthy, they won't be playing against top line opponents, which maximises their opportunities for success.


2. While we may have seen Mantha start the year with the Wings (I felt it unlikely, but no one could count it out), his injury/rehab process will mean that he will definitely start his pro career in GR, which is at this stage what I feel is best for him. Get his confidence playing against men, and then he can help the Wings down the stretch next year or as a playoff black ace, while getting a cup of coffee at some point along the way. 


3. It opens the door for others - Pulkkinen especially, and that free roster spot may now open the door for someone like Callahan to prove he's worth more than say Andersson.


The negatives I can see from this:


1. Mantha doesn't get to even participate in camp, nor play pre-season games against pro opposition. 


2. He'll be rehabbing, unable to use that leg for 5-6 weeks, which will put his progress back a little way. By no means is it insurmountable, but not the kind of start you'd want to your first pro season.

#2536319 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 16 September 2014 - 03:41 PM


There is absolutely no way KH is going to not take advantage of the "free year" of development. 


So, 9 games is all we get this year, folks. 


It wouldn't be all that much of a bad thing tbh. Give Mantha virtually a full year to adjust to the pro game and then start tearing it up, while the Wings gain a free year of his deal. 


That way, when he does start on the NHL roster guaranteed in 15-16, he'll be much better than he is now. 

#2536181 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 14 September 2014 - 08:51 AM

I love Mrazek. But right now he's a top AHL goalie, not an NHL one. Tons of potential yes, but until he's Howie's backup and is putting up Corey Schneider like numbers then I'll be more excited. Didn't stop me from getting his rookie card tho....

#2536162 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 13 September 2014 - 04:45 PM

I reckon they'd probably give him 2 years as Howie's backup - 1 to get acclimated, 2 to excel. By that time Jimmy has 2 years left and it's anybody's guess. 

#2536034 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 12 September 2014 - 03:26 AM

I think management really sent a message to Kindl when they benched him for game 5 vs the Bruins and played Ouellet (who I thought played great). 


At this point, I'd really prefer them to roll with one of the kids than have Kindl back there. I get that it takes longer for D to develop, and if we had a much more bonafide top 4, then I think we'd be willing to be a bit more patient. But the fact that our D is this teams weak point, and that we've got 4 promising prospect who might be NHL ready or near to it, means that really we should be making those last two spots an open competition. 


And I agree with everyone on Lashoff, except that last year he did step up his physical game. I distinctly remember Ken and Mickey making note of it at one point. But still, he's a serviceable 6-7 at best.

#2535981 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 11 September 2014 - 03:00 PM

Just funny how we don't see a thread here about how happy Datsyuk is and how he says his knee is strong and healthy, and how Z says his back is the best it's felt in a long time. 


Instead, we're down to whining about Ericsson and his shattered finger. Quite frankly, I'm not surprised its taking this long to heal. After all, it was shattered......

#2535918 2015 Winter Classic : Blackhawks vs. Capitals at Nationals Park

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 11 September 2014 - 03:17 AM


I'm counting all outdoor league games. Classic, "Stadium Series", etc.


19 teams have participated in 15 games.


3 games


New York Rangers

Chicago Blackhawks

Pittsburgh Penguins


2 Games


Detroit Red Wings

Montreal Canadiens

Los Angeles Kings

Philadelphia Flyers

Washington Capitals


1 Game


Boston Bruins

Buffalo Sabres

Anaheim Ducks

New Jersey Devils

New York Islanders

San Jose Sharks

Edmonton Oilers

Calgary Flames

Vancouver Canucks

Ottawa Senators

Toronto Maple Leafs


0 games


Colorado Avalanche

Columbus Bluejackets

Arizona Coyotes

Dallas Stars

St. Louis Blues

Minnesota Wild

Nashville Predators

Winnipeg Jets

Florida Panthers

Tampa Bay Lightning

Carolina Hurricanes


That's interesting. All the teams that haven't participated in a game yet minus St Louis are expansion/relocated teams from the 90's on. 


How growing the game coming along Gary? 

#2535864 2015 Winter Classic : Blackhawks vs. Capitals at Nationals Park

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 10 September 2014 - 03:39 PM

I would have loved to have seen Colorado vs. Minnesota at Target Field. Or Dallas vs. St. Louis at Busch Stadium. 


Either of those would have been great. But they're not big media markets for Hockey. It's all about the $$$ essentially. And its a joke, recycling the same teams in match ups that frankly, interest no body, watering down the entire thing. At least last years game had some history to rivalry.

#2535763 Ottawa Senators are trying "European style" supporter sections

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 08 September 2014 - 04:02 PM

I predict the games will be more fun...right up until fans from the supporter sections start beating the hell out of opposition fans.  I get the feeling that in North America this will turn violent.  Then again, maybe not.  The Canadiens already have an atmosphere very much like this, and as far as I know nobody had been injured.


Having been to many a football (sorry, soccer) game here in England, and then seen the contrast at Rugby games, I am tempted to classify most football fans as hooligans, but I shall refrain. That being said, I tend to feel that segregating home and away fans breed hatred and animosity (at least it does here in my experience). Most fans spend most of the game exclaiming profanity towards the referees, or other fans, or the teams. 


Contrast to the many games of rugby i've seen, where fans are freely integrated, and convivial with each other. The same I've seen at the 10 or so NHL games i've seen in the states and canada. I also went to a Swiss National League game a few years back and they were chanting the entire game. It's nuts. 

Personally I prefer things the way they are right now, and am against segregation, but that's only due to my previous experiences here. Whether they would turn into that if its tried in the NHL, who knows

#2535760 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 08 September 2014 - 03:54 PM

Definitely not classifying him as a budding star yet, I need to see him compete against pros first.


Heck, I wasn't even classifying Crosby as a star coming out of junior....he dominated from day 1 in junior as a 16 year old and looked like a sure bet, but he was on the small side and I certainly wondered how he'd make in in the NHL playing against men.  It's different here though, I figured he'd be a pretty good player regardless, I just wasn't ready to suggest he was a lock at being a STAR in the NHL.


Exactly. You can be the most dominant player in juniors against kids, but playing against men is a different story. 


Still why I think it's better for him to get his feet wet in GR first rather than making the big club off the bat. 

#2535743 Detroit offers D Raphael Diaz tryout

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 08 September 2014 - 12:35 PM

I may be remembering incorrectly but I think there were several teams interested in Alfredsson, and several more that were interested in Weiss. 

As for this year, there were what, five players that the Wings targeted that weren't signed, and the Wings are one team in a league of 30.  The odds are NEVER going to be in our favor to sign any particular player, especially when said player is besties with the coach in Washington, and that other player wants to be with his family in Minnesota, etc etc.


side note: Funny that this article was posted on mlive this morning, because it mentions goaltender prospect Jared Coreau picked the Wings over seven other teams back when he was a free agent.  He did this knowing he would be just one goalie in an organization that already includes Howard, Gustavson, Mrazek, McCollum, and Peterson.  But he picked the Wings because of the system's ability to develop players properly.  So there you go. http://www.mlive.com...jared_core.html


I believe (if my memory serves me correctly) that he had the choice of Detroit and Boston. 


EDIT: This seems to suggest the Bruins were at least interested, but Alfie chose the Wings




I don't expect any of them to make the team out of camp either.  They will give both Kindl and Lashoff an opportunity to be in the top 6 throughout the first 10-20 games.


That's the Red Wing way and I fully expect that.  The only way that changes is if someone truly surpasses expectations and blows them out of the water or severely underperforms.


They've made large personal and financial commitments to their roster players and they're going to give them more than a fair shot. 


If they blow it, then fine.  But they'll get their fair shot.



Agreed. And I wouldn't be surprised to see one of them gone and a kid called up by December.