If our amazing amount of young talent is so amazing, why are giys like Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, Tootoo, Eaves, Miller, and Samuelsson getting the minutes? People need to wake up and realize that Tatar, Nyquist, Brunner, etc all would have had 60-80 games played last year if they were so amazing. The Darren Helms and Dwight Kings of hockey dont get held bacl for development long, much less the Datsyuks and Kopitars.
Well.....uh, to be fair, it would have been a bit hard for those guys to put up minutes for us while they were playing for other teams........or other leagues.
One's gotta think Holland has had a hard time selling the program in recent years.
I mean, yes we're an original six team with a previous winning tradition. However, we're also a team with an old, dilapidated arena, a team who just lost their franchise player, full of aging veterans and unproven youth....a team, playoff wise, has been going the wrong direction for the last 4 years.....
A team that couldn't win with Weber, Suter and Radulov needs only Weber and one other good defenseman to win the Cup? How about no?
The lengths to which you go in order to disparage the Wings' chances and inflate those of other teams is amazing.
Can you make single post without insulting the person you're responding to? Just once?
Couldn't win? You're defending our roster yet at the same time discounting a team that destroyed us in the playoffs? I seriously can't wrap my head around the way your logic works.
The Predators put together a damn solid team essentially from scratch due to good management and smart draft choices. We lose Stuart, Rafalski, Lidstrom in the span of two years and you think all is fine, yet they lose Suter and you immediately think they "cant win"? I don't consider Radulov a loss, and the loss of Suter will definitely hurt, but I can think, as long as they retain Weber, they are still a team that can go far.
But it doesn't matter what I say, because in your little world, you'll always think we have a Stanley Cup caliber team regardless of the names on the roster.
Haha, so a GM that can't get good proven young talent from other clubs for our scraps is a bad GM? Let me give you a hint here....no GM can work that magic, especially in the new NHL. I don't care if you pay your GM 6 million or 60 million a year. No GM is going to perform the NHL version of the Louisiana Purchase.
At the end of the day, regardless of what your excuse is..... if the decisions you make/don't make as a GM are gradually leading your team to become weaker and weaker, than you're simply not doing a good job as GM. Simple.
What people also need to get is this will definitely create a domino affect, driving up the value for elite defensemen exponentially. Any hopes we had of trading for Yandle, Enstrom, etc. is all but gone.
It's funny how everyone on this board whines about getting younger... But when there's an opportunity of inserting Brunner and/or Nyquist into the top-6, everyone screams that Holland's an idiot and should sign Semin and Doan. Doan wants term... four years... He wants this to be his last contract. That means one less spot for the likes of Brunner, Nyquist, Tatar, Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok, Jurco... And a couple more years of whining about how the wings have to get younger. The same goes for Semin... If we sign him and he works out, and the wings sign him long-term next year, that means zero top-6 openings for a number of years... Unless of course you see Datsyuk, Doan and Franzen as the third line in 3 years.
Uh, no. You're leaving out a critical point from that statement. We're actually whining about getting younger with proven talent. Brunner and Nyquist are not, as of now, proven NHL top-6 forwards and until then, yes, we will continue to whine about getting younger with proven NHL caliber players.
He's done nothing of significance the last several deadlines and offseasons.
This offseason, his big accomplishment is signing a 4th liner that any GM could have signed and that old goof Samuelsson, who we don't need at this point. And that's coming off three early playoff exits in a row and the retirement of your best player for the last decade.
I don't know what our record will be next season, but the offseason up until now has been a disaster. But Holland's mentality is, "All is well"
Honesty is a b****.
We always seem to be on the same page with these matters, yet for whatever reason, you never get ripped apart like I do.
Good God, that is not what he even said.... Stop twisting things to make it sound the way you want it to. He said they have guys that can fill in, so it's not like they are down to 4 defensemen.
Uh, no, that's not what he said. He never said "fill", he specifically said "replace", as in these guys will replace Stuart and Lidstrom. Not sure how you can read it any other way...
Yeah, risk bringing in a guy who has, by all accounts, a horrible attitude and questionable worth ethic. Risk that because it's not your money, so let's just go on a spending frenzy and grab all the average players we can. Holland is smart not to blow everything up by spending like a 16 year old girl the weekend before Prom. Get a grip people, the sky is not falling. The team, as is, will make the playoffs and will compete.
Remember when everyone wrote Datsyuk off as a non-playoff contributor? How did that turn out?
How exactly are we risking our money if it's not being allocated to anything else...? If it's essentially, just sitting there? Don't risk some money on a previous 40 goal scorer for a team in need of scoring depth? Just don't understand your argument...
And then you say we WILL make the playoffs and WILL compete? You come to that consensus based on......what exactly? Do you not realize this is now a team MUCH weaker than the one that was first to get eliminated and won a single game last playoffs? And yet, somehow, you think with a weaker roster we'll somehow do.....better?
Am i missing something here? I just dont understand the logic!
“Once you make those decisions, you are out of the game for a decade, you know?” he said. “So, I don’t know if people think we’re going to have major announcements this year, next year and the year after. The league doesn’t work like that. I’m confident, at some point — and it might be next year or the year after — that the history, the tradition, the commitment of our ownership, the passion of our fans, is going to all add up to having an opportunity to bring a player of significance here.”
Basically, SOMEDAY we'll get a good player.....
Detroit Red Wings, your 2015 Stanley Cup Champions!!
“I don’t think we need a whole bunch of guys,” Holland said at Wednesday’s Hockeytown Winter Classic press conference. “I think if we can get one more player, (we’ll be fine). First off, we’re done in goal. I think we’ve got lots of pieces of up front. Obviously, with the loss of (Brad) Stuart, the loss of (Nick) Lidstrom, we’re not as deep as we’ve been in the past in defense. Two players that are going to replace him that weren’t here (last year) are Brendan Smith and (Kyle) Quincey, so it’s not like we’ve lost two guys and don’t have any players.”
Yes Holland, you're right. It's not like we have any kind of scoring problem and desperately need a top 6 forward, despite the fact that we scored an average of 1.8 goals per game during the playoffs AND our own coach said we lost due to weakness in scoring potential for our 2nd and 3rd lines. Sure Holland, all is fine.
And yeah, saying Smith and Quincey will replace Lidstrom and Stuart, respectively, is in it's own level of idiocy alone.