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#2426378 Wings in on Alfredsson

Posted by ShanahanMan on 05 July 2013 - 09:57 AM

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Expectation is Alfredsson will go to DET. Since he's 35+ player, base salary likely in $3.5M range with bonuses taking it up to $5M total

Just threw up in my mouth.

My god, how does Holland still have defenders?

#2426362 Wings in on Alfredsson

Posted by ShanahanMan on 05 July 2013 - 09:47 AM

Youth is overrated anyway. 40 year olds win you cups.

#2426230 Grabovski Bought Out

Posted by ShanahanMan on 04 July 2013 - 11:56 PM


You sound like you don't know what your talking about. He is a great skater, can move the puck well, loves to shoot, and he had zero problems attitude wise in Toronto. Is he pissed now? Yah. His GM just told everyone earlier this week that he was not using a 2nd buyout so Grabo would be safe, then a couple days later he buys Grabo out. If Grabo had such a bad attitude, then he would have done this complaining to the media while he was still a member of the team during the season. Instead, he kept his mouth shut and kept playing and competiting. 


Furthermore, in his concluding comments he had this to say: ""I need to work harder," he concluded, taking time to thank his teammates, equipment managers and fans, "I need to be smarter, I need to play harder, need to play better and score a lot of goals and do what I do the best." 


To me, this sounds like a player who knows what he has to do to succeed and a good player who is ready to continue to work hard. 


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#2426208 Wings in on Alfredsson

Posted by ShanahanMan on 04 July 2013 - 09:49 PM

which is why we need to focus on 27 year old Brunner, not 35 year old alfredsson.

Alfredsson is 40

#2425226 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by ShanahanMan on 03 July 2013 - 04:03 AM


Yes, yes they did actually.  Every single player on this roster was drafted, signed or traded for by Holland.  Every one of the coaches.  Most of the scouting staff and front office.  From top to bottom, on and off the ice, this entire organisation is Ken Holland's handiwork.



Exactly what I was thinking too.  We're going to have 17 forwards and 7 defencemen (and the 7th is Lashoff!)  I've got to imagine Sammy is playing the injury card, he's only got to have an ouchy till Friday and he's safe from a compliance buyout.  Of course he's still not safe from an ordinary buyout - will cost us $1M against the cap, and I hope Holland does it if he is dicking around with us.  Hell, I hope Holland does it anyway.  Maybe he'll send him down to GR to clear a spot.


So, with our 26 man roster, and too many forwards, I keep hoping beyond hope that Holland has a trade in the works for a realgud D-man.  The buying out of Colo makes no sense otherwise, he was a decent player with a low cap hit and only 1 year left.


If not, I'm not quite ready to jump off the Holland bandwagon just yet, but I'm becoming more and more sympathetic to some of the bashing.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most of our scouts and front office hired from Pre-Holland/Jimmy Devellano days? You know, the guy who personally assembled the team that got us our 1997 and 1998 cups? 


And before you say, "well, Holland got us Zetts and Dats", they were both noticed and handpicked by our amazing scout Håkan Andersson (one of the few remaining saving graces for our team in management) and Jim Nill.


So basically, Holland has done little if anything for our team. 


Meh, Hull and Robitaille were good signings. 

#2425206 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by ShanahanMan on 03 July 2013 - 01:15 AM

If they:

A)  Don't buy out Sammy


along with


B)  Resign cleary for $3Mill for 3 years




C)  give Flip anything more than $3.5 million per


I will be off of the Holland bandwagon once and for all



You're still on? I officially threw myself off the wagon and gave up on him when he dropped Hossa and signed Justin Williams in 09. 

#2425169 Penguins re-sign Pascal Dupuis

Posted by ShanahanMan on 02 July 2013 - 11:05 PM

$60 million for 19 players occupied for next year and $48 million already occupied by 8 players the season after next.


blah blah blah. We all said the same thing about Chicago after they won the cup in 2010 and their roster imploded. What did they do? They won the cup again 3 years later. 

#2425114 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by ShanahanMan on 02 July 2013 - 09:18 PM

Maybe because he knew signing players wasn't going to make a difference?  Maybe he wanted to give the kids a chance?  Maybe he didn't have the go-ahead to trade away assets for players like Iginla, Murray, Morrow, Jagr, Clowe, etc.     ...that all worked out in the end anyway, huh?


I understand the frustration behind the "HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING" mentality... but we have a team that consistently makes the playoffs and doesn't draft high.   WTF DO YOU WANT?! 


oh right... We Want The Cup.


So by your logic, he purposely signs players like Samuelsson to a 3M per year deal WITH no trade clause......Tootoo for 2M a year (wouldn't have gotten more then 1M with any other team) who was scratched a lot of the season and all of the playoffs......because he knew it wouldn't make a difference? 


Guess you can't really argue with that. God knows they sure as hell didn't make a difference and I guess that.....was.....Holland's.....plan? 

#2425098 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by ShanahanMan on 02 July 2013 - 08:59 PM


...it is so unfortunate when the "woe is this team" or "Holland sucks" comments outweigh the good ones.


I mean, this horrible, god-awfully managed team was one game away from the WCF.  God we suck and so does Holland. Glad to know we can gripe just as loudly and as obnoxiously as other fans of other teams in the league.  Way to go Wings Fans.



Yes, because the signings Holland made had so much to do with that. 

#2425041 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by ShanahanMan on 02 July 2013 - 07:45 PM

And according to her, it looks like Cleary will be around 3 years $9mil (What the f***???) and Brunner will be around $2.5mil a year with no length specified.


HAHAHAHA. Wow, if this is indeed true, Holland has seriously reached a new low n his stupidity. 


4.5M too big a risk for a proven elite player.


3M a good number for a guy 37 years old for 3 year contract.




#2424985 Report: Red Wings out on Lecavalier - signs with Philly 5@4.5 per

Posted by ShanahanMan on 02 July 2013 - 06:48 PM

Oh come on, who didn't see this coming.

If the guy was 40, then maybe Holland would have considered him.

First off, in regards to term length, it seems much less risky now with each team allocated compliance buyouts per year. Yeah its not the most respectful thing to the players but it would allow Holland to sleep while still signing him at an appropriate price. 4.5M is a fair price for Lecavalier.

And again, what new player has Holland signed in the last 4 or 5 years that has worked out and proved to be a good signing?


Holland signs these guys, just for them to get scratched every game by Babcock.

Its quite clear our commander and chief has no direction on what he's doing.

#2389164 4/24 GDT: Kings 1 @ Red Wings 3

Posted by ShanahanMan on 24 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

Hate eddie olczyk so damn much. Tries to find any negative thing he can with the Wings.

#2329598 Jimmy D Speaks out on Lockout, fined $250k

Posted by ShanahanMan on 21 September 2012 - 12:51 PM

And pretty much bashes players in the process. Yikes.

Not the best choice of words, Jimmy.


#2328864 Wings sign Carlo Colaiacovo to 2 year deal, $2.5m cap hit

Posted by ShanahanMan on 15 September 2012 - 11:13 AM

Believe it or not points aren't all that plays into salary for defensemen.

Carlo is a decent puck moving defenseman, he's nothing more than an average to below average in terms of defense, Ericsson plays a ton more in shorthanded situations, and is much more physical. Different players demand different salaries depending on the role they play. One also had much more leverage on the team, Ericsson's not a world beater by any means, but he does provide something the wings don't have much of on the back end, toughness, and size. Which the Wing's lost quite a bit with Stuart.

Fair points, but I gotta disagree with you on Ericsson being more physical. While the guy does have the size advantage, he's also a pylon and rarely makes use of it. He is a decent puckmover though.

Haven't watched too much of Carlo so can't really comment on his defensive abilities but yeah, the general consensus seems to be he's a solid 5th/6thdefender when he's healthy. Also, he's got pretty good numbers.

#2328840 Wings sign Carlo Colaiacovo to 2 year deal, $2.5m cap hit

Posted by ShanahanMan on 15 September 2012 - 01:32 AM

Makes you wonder how a guy like Ericsson who's averaged about the same amount of games played as Colaiacovo the last few seasons but with less than half the points, can command almost a million dollars more a year in salary.

Just don't get it...