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#2193406 Jackets sign Wisniewski: 6-years $33-million ($5.5m/yr)

Posted by ShanahanMan on 01 July 2011 - 10:25 AM

It's going to be hard to rationalize with irrationally upset posters who, every year, like Leafs fans, want to sign every player at the top of the UFA list or they're going to beat their chest at their team's GM.

That extra 2.25m gives the Wings room for another player, and while Big E's game as horribly flawed, particularly in the postseason, he's also still developing.


Ah, the Filppula defense.


#2193381 Jackets sign Wisniewski: 6-years $33-million ($5.5m/yr)

Posted by ShanahanMan on 01 July 2011 - 10:15 AM

I'm not concerned.

Wis was amongst the most hyped players for FA. I'm not surprised at all that he's overpaid and for Columbus' sake I hope he plays up to his contract. Marketing 101.

In the pre-cap era the Wings would have probably splashed the bigger offer and landed him. In the post-cap era the Wings have been successful playing the cap smartly, and not handing huge payouts to unqualified players.

Be thankful this was not a Red Wings deal.


You must have been on vacation yesterday.


#2193341 Jackets sign Wisniewski: 6-years $33-million ($5.5m/yr)

Posted by ShanahanMan on 01 July 2011 - 10:01 AM

5.5 Wisniewski>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ericsson 3.25

by far....


#2193183 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by ShanahanMan on 01 July 2011 - 03:06 AM

Only one of Franzen or Hossa was going to be resigned. Franzen agreed to terms, Hossa did not (nor did I ever hear about him saying he'll take a discount). It was Franzen who stopped us from getting Hossa, not Flip. If you're going to bring things up at least get your facts straight.

On topic: This deal is terrible. Like others have said, it sends the wrong message to not only players on the Wings, but to other players around the league. In my opinion he didn't even deserve the 2 mil he was originally offered. I'm hoping Holland has something up his sleeve,
or this could make it onto the worst signings by a GM list.


That's the point though. A great GM would have MADE that work. Hossa was actually adamant on staying in Detroit, but Holland was refusing to make any neccessary changes in order to do so. As gmcom7 said, if you have a star player that's willing to stay for a bargain price, you do what you have to do to make it happen. He took the passive route and refused to pull the trigger.


#2193086 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by ShanahanMan on 30 June 2011 - 11:37 PM

I fail to see how anyone can call this deal "bad" at this particular moment. It's not hurting anything. Red Wings have plenty of cap space to afford it, and lots of $$ cash left to improve the team. (No Kenny isn't getting Richards, never was)

How do we know what went on behind the scenes? It
sounds like Holland wanted Ericsson for about $1.8 to $2.0 million. Ericsson is in the press speaking how he wants the chance to advance to the next level. Ericsson know's he'd easily get $3.75+ or more tomorrow. So really he took a discount.

Knowing this, Holland probably said:

"Okay, $3.25 then, but if you don't progress, I am packaging you up and trading you! - Ericsson, do you understand that I will trade you if you do not meet my expectations, right?"

Ericsson - "Yes Mr. Holland, I understand!"

[worse case scenario, seven months later Ericsson has not
improved, Holland trades him with a pick/prospect for a nice return]

In this market, Holland can get a nice return on Big Rig with this current contract. This is called "asset
management". It might not look good right now, but I am sure Kenny has a plan.


Oh yea, cause if Ericsson s***s the bed, GMs all over the league will be fighting to trade for him at a 3.25 mil cap hit.


#2192849 Holland Appreciation Thread

Posted by ShanahanMan on 30 June 2011 - 09:15 PM

I just continue to be in awe of Holland's amazing negotiating abilities. The guy just continues to have one great signing after another.

Best GM in the league right there! Am I right or am I right?

+1 please!


#2192803 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by ShanahanMan on 30 June 2011 - 09:01 PM

You guys seem to forget this is the same Kenny Holland that welcomed Jason Williams back with open arms.


#2192774 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by ShanahanMan on 30 June 2011 - 08:53 PM

In Kenny We Trust....

Right guys??? Right????

Can I get a +1 now?


#2188119 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by ShanahanMan on 22 June 2011 - 10:48 PM

This is coming from the guy who thought Bryzgalov would sign a 5 year contract @ $1.1 million per :lol:


First off, already stated that was a player mix up. It does happen you know.

Second, that has anything to do with this....how?


#2187832 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by ShanahanMan on 22 June 2011 - 08:30 AM

How much was Modano's contract again? I forgot he was supposed to come in and be a ppg player. 7 points in 20 games which included gelling with a new team and new system. I'm sorry he was a depth signing he was suppose to come in and try to put up around 40 points which if he got comfortable I bet could have happened.
Also richards bieksa and Wiz... Do you want to be the
one to tell lidstrom ge HAS to retire next season because we have all if our Money locked up on those guys and won't be able to give raises to kronwall and others. Yes we would all love all the best players in free agency but sorry richards 80-90 points for 7.5 million < jagr 40-50 points at
2 million... Which is nicer on the cap and allows us to fix our D situation while not handcuffing our self next season?


Sure, sure. Modano WOULD have had 40 points, WOULD have put up a fair share of goals, WOULD have saved the team. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Fact is, he stunk and was benched for a reason.

40-50 points for a guy who is 39 and hasn't played in the NHL in 3 years? Are you serious? We'd be LUCKY if he broke 20, with maybe 7 of those points being goals.

Jeez, can Holland not pick up someone in free agency over 36 for once?


#2186678 PHI Transactions: 6-23-2011

Posted by ShanahanMan on 18 June 2011 - 02:20 AM

Who said it was 5.5 a year? How do you guys know it's not 5.5 mil spread out the five years? I think it's certainly plausible and if true, these cap worries are nonexistent.


#2186611 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by ShanahanMan on 17 June 2011 - 07:08 PM

I would take a shot at him if it were for 1 - 1.5 mil but not for anything more than that. Jagr has put up consistently good numbers in the KHL, and I actually think he might be a great fit to play with Datsyuk.

It couldnt be worse than the Modano signing...



:thumbup:


Being as worse as the Modano signing is worse enough. No more old dudes "looking for one more shot" please.


#2179566 Hudler's Future

Posted by ShanahanMan on 25 May 2011 - 01:06 PM

Hudler was one of the team's most effective players from Christmas until the end of the Phoenix series. It wasn't just a few games.


Hudler had a nice little spurt of point production between Christmas and the end of February. Thats pretty much it. Following that, he went pointless for seven games and finally started doing something again around the beginning of the playoffs (as others had mentioned, so did the rest of the team.) Franzen's longest pointless drought was 4 games, while Hudler's was 13. To even fathom the notion that Hudler is as/more valuable than Franzen makes one question your sanity.

And my point was that Hudler outplayed Franzen during the portion of the playoffs Franzen was healthy for. And in case you didn't notice, this is a Hudler thread. Don't want to discuss Hudler, don't come into this thread. It's easy.


You mean all ONE game of it?


#2179382 Will Nicklas Lidstrom Retire?

Posted by ShanahanMan on 25 May 2011 - 12:50 AM

With Rafi throwing in a curve ball, what will Kenny do if Nic says he's off too? I mean Nic might now say, well my old partner has
called it a day so I may as well ride off into the sunset with him. Dont think anyone has suggested this as yet, as we all assume that
the Capt is staying for another year. Now that would cause alarm bells to start ringing. Kenny may just throw out an offer to an RFA no?


Or calls up the Tampa Bay GM and asks for advice.


#2176789 Sharks Accuse Canucks of Diving

Posted by ShanahanMan on 18 May 2011 - 12:16 PM