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#2455006 Today's Chuckle - NHL selling team Snuggies

Posted by 55fan on 18 November 2013 - 01:13 PM

When will the NHL® Official 2014 Bridgestone NHL Winter Classic® version be available?

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It was only available on websites that you don't get, but because you live in an area which the NHL® says is supposed to get them, are blacked out because of contractual obligations.  The NHL® suggests that you pay them hundreds of dollars to get these websites, at which time they will allow you to read the fine print informing you that you can not get these websites. 


The NHL® apologizes for the inconvenience, and will now lock out the players to negotiate this problem because the NHL® loves you, because you are the Best Fans in the World™.

#2452958 Brendan Shanahan appreciation thread

Posted by F.Michael on 12 November 2013 - 03:39 PM

I remember Shanny in Hartford, and how he wasn't overly thrilled about playing on a team with an indifferent owner/fan base...That was spring of 1996.


Then later that fall - rumours swirled about Shanny being moved; I recall thinking that he would be a perfect fit for the Red Wings.


No matter what he does as 'head disciplinarian' - he'll always have a big fan in F.Michael.

My favorite Shanny pic of all time.

My favorite is my avatar...YzermanShanahan.gif

#2450040 Philly Capitals line brawl

Posted by F.Michael on 02 November 2013 - 09:25 AM

he fought for the fans, who seemed to love it...

Well - that might be true, but ya know it's pretty bad when all you got to cheer for is watching your goalie beat up the other teams goalie...It's sort of on the same level of some drunken goof sitting in his weathered lawn chair on the front yard laughing his a$$ off while watching his bully of a son beat up the kid from across the street.


It might make ya feel good for a few minutes, but in reality it's a pretty bad situation.

#2449429 Franzen believes hes playing well.

Posted by StormJH1 on 01 November 2013 - 10:32 AM

The criticisms of Franzen are totally fair, so I get it.  But the reality is that while his contract isn't a good contract, it also a manageable enough cap hit to avoid it being a total disaster. 


The other thing about Franzen is that he's going to have knee problems because he already has and because of how he's built.  If he played like Ryan Kesler, would he be capable of banging his way to a 30-goal pace every year?  Very possibly.  But I also think he'd average about 25-40 games missed from injury every year.


The thing that irks Wings fans about Franzen is what people call "work rate" in soccer.  But there are some good strikers in soccer that have notoriously poor work rates, yet still put the ball in the net.  That's what Franzen is, or at least what he's supposed to be, in a streaky fashion.  He sticks out like sore thumb on a team on a team full of defensive minded forwards, but as great as 13 and 40 are, you will see them disappear for weeks at a time from the scoresheet.  That was made Marian Hossa (IMO) such a great Red Wing during the '09 season, he carried that team for weeks in the regular season when nobody else was scoring.  Then his shoulder tore apart in the Playoffs and he skated in circles.  But Franzen was never as good as Hossa, nor was he ever as expensive.  He literally cost almost half the price from a cap standpoint, so the comparison is ridiculous.


Also, if he just has a TERRIBLE year (which I don't think he will), isn't compliance buyout still an option after 2014?  Provided of course he isn't on the IR.  My opinion remains that I'm not going to dwell on him until that window has closed.  I think fans are right to worry about what's ahead, but the contract is what it is, and it's not killing us right now.

#2446688 10/21 GDT: Sharks 1 @ Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by 55fan on 21 October 2013 - 02:30 PM

Oh God, we are going to get killed. I'm saying it will be five to nothing and will finally get a goal towards the end of the game.

I'm going the other way.  There's no way we can win this one, so we'll blow the Sharks out of the water.  Everyone who has been sucking will play lights-out.  Z and D will have career games.  LGW will plan the Stanley Cup Parade.


Then we will get totally flattened the next game and LGW will want every player on the team traded.  In fact, some of them will get traded twice and somehow end up back here, necessitating a third trade to get rid of them.


Then we will complain about a lack of consistency.

#2437404 9/17 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by Dabura on 18 September 2013 - 01:23 AM

This thread was several hundred infinity times more entertaining than the game.


Also this just goes to show how much our two star players mean to this team. You KNOW the outcome would've been different had 37 and 71 been in the lineup tonight.

#2437361 9/17 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by Euro_Twins on 17 September 2013 - 09:07 PM


Hockey really isn't a sport one can listen to. Audio commentary on other sports can at least give one a general picture of what is going on. Not so with hockey.


Not when they don't tell you whats happening...

#2437352 9/17 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by Euro_Twins on 17 September 2013 - 08:53 PM

did they have a we want cup chant yet


They should, they have only won the cup 2 out of the 5 years the NHL has been around...

#2437337 9/17 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blackhawks 2

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 17 September 2013 - 08:34 PM

The dam has broken. And these announcers act like that was the go ahead goal in OT of game 7.

#2428277 is anyone happy right now?

Posted by Superman54 on 06 July 2013 - 10:25 PM

Holy s*** b@ll$ there are far too many crying posters on here. We replaced a soft player in pass first Filppula for a more hard nosed equally talented (I say more) centremen in Weiss. It's not charity, if Detroit was given everything they wanted then it wouldn't be much of a competitive league you fairies. I live in Calgary and the bloody flame fans are more optimistic then us about their cup chances.

#2425425 How much is too much?

Posted by T.Low on 03 July 2013 - 12:51 PM

"Competitive monopoly" is a rather unique situation that appears in sports more so than other areas of the marketplace. I haven't seen anyone post about it yet, but it's really a big reason on why UFA prices can be so ridiculous.

For example; While there may be five 2C's that are capable of 25 goals 35 assists per year, there is only one Vinny Lecavalier.

If you want a Vinny Lecavalier on your team, the local Sporting goods store does not have five Vinny Lecavaliers on the shelf. There is only one in all of the world.

You could buy a Weiss or a Filp instead, but its not the same as a Vinny. Vinny Lecavalier has a monopoly on Vinny Lecavalier's.  If you want one, you are going to have to bid against everyone else that wants one too.

When you have a monopoly on something,you are a price maker, not a price taker.

The salary cap was meant to level the playing field in regards to acquisition powers. It has proven to be kryptonite to Illitches checkbook and has taken the Mickey out of Hollands off-season. He has chosen not to overpay during UFA season. And I can't blame him. There is only so much pie to slice up for your team.

#2425325 How much is too much?

Posted by Nev on 03 July 2013 - 10:17 AM

Its not just the price, its the term that is being asked for by these guys.  Its one thing offering a guy like Clarkson a 3 year $18M contract, if he doesn't live up to it, you're not stuck with it for very long.  But a 7 year $42M contract?  If he reverts back to being a 15 goal scorer, you're stuck with him till 2020!.  You can't trade him, cos no-one wants his contract, and you can't bury him in the minors like before.


As I've been saying for a while, there's always a desperate GM ready to make a desperate signing and "over-pay."  I'm sure someone out there has already given Flip's agent the nod that he'll give him a ginagerous contract, hence his desire to hit FA.


Holmgren is desperate to keep his job.  If Vinny doesn't work out, and Philly are stuck with him, what does Holmgren care?  He won't be there, its someone else's problem.

#2425313 How much is too much?

Posted by T.Low on 03 July 2013 - 10:04 AM

UFA's will be inherently over priced because demand is high and supply is low.  They will ruin the salary structure of your team, and quite possibly the attitude of the room.


We all know that Holland and Illitch understood after the '05 CBA that prices for UFA's would be waaaay hyper inflated and therefore went to a philosophy of building a team through the draft.


As you see, Wings fans are having a difficult time living on a budget when we never had to before.  We can't handle not buying every Lecavalier and Horton that we see become available, like the good ole days of  buying up a Lucky Luc and having no room for him except on the 4rth line.


That is one reason winning the Calder Cup was so significant.

#2362630 2/27 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Kings 2

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

Yup, and the Wings were outplaying them but there is this thing in hockey called bounces and a hot goalie.  The Wings only scored one goal.  I suppose the refs should step in and give the Wings automatic goals because they were outplaying the Kings after all.  Sometimes, in a one game playoff, the team that is outplayed can pull out a win.  That is what happened here.

Wings went 0-3 on the power play while the Kings went 1-5.  I don't see a huge disparity there.


The Wings definitely didn't capitalize on the huge rebounds Bernier was knocking out left, right, and center last night. As shaky as the guy looked, he did keep the puck out, so mission accomplished.


As far as the officiating: The initial Abdelkader penalty to put them on the initial PP was a bit soft the way the defenseman put himself in the position and sold it heavy. The Ericsson trip penalty, while close to being a good hip check was earned with the stick between the legs and was legit. The Datsyuk "hook" to extend the first PP was extremely soft, and even looked like the Kings player felt stick and sold it big time. Either way, nothing comes from the sequence, but it does set up two soft penalties. Fast forward to the 2nd string of penalties, the one the ended up in the goal, the Quincey roughing was slightly earned, albeit probably also a bit of "manufactured drama" the league has become known for. The Datsyuk faceoff violation was legit, or at least as legit as such a stupid rule can be (its one thing to box out and use a free hand, its another to be in a pile with your hand on your stick and your glove touches the puck; Mickey Mouse crap).


The problem with officiating whenever it is a problem doesn't come down to how much a penalty is earned, but rather the consistency with which calls are made. A penalty in the first should be a penalty in the third, no matter what color the team is wearing. In the final 6 minutes or so last night there were easily 2 hook/trips equally/more egregious than the Abdelkader boarding or the Datsyuk hook from earlier, the high hit on Cleary was easily worse than the Quincey roughing, and the elbow cheapshot to the back of Smith's head away from the play was apparently there to troll us fans, because it was a great cherry on top of the sh** pie we all got to take a bite out of. While the Wings didn't convert on the 3 PP they did get (or the last 30 or so on the road), it was seeing lots of success and quality chances.


At the end of the day, the Wings did lose the game at even strength, the coaching staff continues to play players like Cleary and Abdelkader where they don't belong, and you could at least call them breaking through on their third 5-on-3 evens up the 'luck' from the Quincey goal in the first. However, to say that the officiating wasn't atrocious and inconsistent in the crucial moments of the game, or that the lack of late powerplays for the Wings didn't contribute to the loss is not accurate.

#2210697 Fabian Brunnstrom

Posted by Heaten on 29 September 2011 - 08:52 PM

Brunnstrom and Emmerton have been the two best 'prospect' tryouts. Neither will pass through waivers, so Holland may as well sign Bruno and rotate him with Miller and Emmerton.

Deal with Mursak when he gets off IR. If Emmerton or Bruno cool down or don't pan out, waive one of them. If they outplay Miller, waive Miller.