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#2532623 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by dirtydangles on 20 July 2014 - 11:20 AM

Kindl's gonna go on waivers cause they can't trade him and Smith will get 2nd PP time.

Then Kindl goes to a couple teams in the west and improves greatly - then Holland desperately trades a 1st round pick at the trade deadline for him and then Kindl stinks up the joint here again and gets re-signed for 4.25mill.




#2436133 Cleary re-signs with Detroit, 1 year, $1.75m deal

Posted by T.Low on 12 September 2013 - 11:28 AM

I wish I could fly to Traverse City and shake Dan Cleary's hand.

 

 In this day and age of pro athletes chasing the Big $ at all costs, the guy walked away from millions of dollars, put his ego aside, crawled back to the negotiation table to eat some major crow, all so he could stay with friends,  teammates, and an organisation and town that he loves.

 

Cleary went toe to toe with one of Detroit's all time biggest nemesis, Chris Pronger, he went after Dion Phaneuf, knocking him silly, then getting an assist on the goal. He's scored numerous playoff game winning goals.  Even when he's basically duck taped together, he's still finishing checks and jumping into scrums. He is a winner, he is the epitome of a team heart and soul guy, he has hands, grit, and smarts.  He is a major contributor at all costs.

 

$1.75m!  Talk about a Hometown Discount!  

 

Totally glad he's back. And frankly, I can't see him really giving a s*** what number is on his jersey, as long as the logo is the Winged Wheel.




#2436128 Cleary re-signs with Detroit, 1 year, $1.75m deal

Posted by kipwinger on 12 September 2013 - 11:16 AM

I'm sorry, I guess I don't get the anger.  We got a player of Cleary's caliber for less than we're paying Tootoo?  Even if he plays all season on the fourth line we're better off with this happening.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd MUCH rather have Cleary in the lineup than Tootoo or Eaves...and now he's the same price.

 

Good signing. 

 

Ideally, here's my lines.

 

Z-Dats-Abby

Alfie-Weiss-Franzen

Tatar-Andersson-Nyquist

Cleary-Helm-Miller

Sammy/Bert

 

Sadly, goodbye Eaves, Tootoo, and Emmerton (unless Helm is still hurt). 




#2430580 Brendan Smith signs 2-year, $2.525m contract with Red Wings

Posted by GoWings1905 on 17 July 2013 - 09:25 PM

I really don't see Cleary signing elsewhere. How do you explain to your brand new team mates and coaches and media circus that it's ok that your knees are shot and you fall down every shift, because you're a respected leader? Unless we're talking about, like, Florida.

 

Beyond the physical limitations, it's not like Cleary is incapable of providing value to a team at this stage. The Red Wings don't lack for quality leaders and Cleary was widely respected by his teammates here, so that impact could easily translate to another organization. 

 

I'm not really even advocating for the Red Wings to keep Cleary. I just think the LGW consensus (not you, specifically) has turned Cleary into a villain when he still provides qualities that are necessary to win hockey games. 




#2425047 Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

Posted by TigerDan on 02 July 2013 - 07:51 PM

I think using a buyout on Carlo is a waste.  IMHO, he was one of our top 4 defensemen in the playoffs, and is paid less than at least one guy who he outplayed (Quincy).  I think he could and would crack our lineup even with DeKeyser back.  Now, we are relying on Smith to step it up and Quincy to play to his potential every night vs. having a guy that came in and played rock solid in our back pocket.  And we're doing this why? To keep Samuelsson??  WTF???

 

I don't have too much of a problem with the Cleary deal, though I wish it was more like 2 years at 2M or 2.5M.  I know a lot of people want a star player in his place, but I'd argue that he brings some of the things to the table that we need: he'll go to the net, he plays tougher than his size and he gives 100% every time out on the ice.  He's like Rudy - I wish I could put his heart into Franzen's body.

 

I don't have too much of a problem with keeping Bert too.  If he's hurt, we can IR him and maybe get someone else (IR doesn't count against cap?). While if he's truly healthy, he can bring some size, grit, toughness and scoring.




#2416336 Franzen Buyout?

Posted by The Axe on 30 May 2013 - 07:14 PM

If Holland is talking about having Bert and Sammy back (as mentioned in other places here) I highly doubt Franzen will be bought out. I have a weird feeling that a combination of loyalty, saving face, and not having a ready replacement will prevent this.  I don't know what we will do about the cap hit if he retires.  I feel that Z will play his entire contract, but not Franzen ...


THIS. Using buyouts is a way for a NEW GM to clean up old messes (gomez). No incumbant GM is going to admit a bad signing, much less 2, by dumping players he signed. "Yah boss, I burned 11 mil of yours for no reason. Turns out we cant even use this slow, old guy."


#2416175 Darren Helm - Career in Question?

Posted by rick zombo on 30 May 2013 - 01:02 PM

Babcock also had this to say about Filpulla's injury:

 

"You guys watched the video, you decide," Babcock said. "He's hurt. He'll be ready for camp."

 

So I guess Filpulla's going to re-sign?

 

OR, Babs was just talking, much like the Helm quote.

 

Basically, I woudn't put too much stalk in how the coach phrased his responses. Know what I mean?




#2395107 WCQF Game 2 GDT - Red Wings 5 @ Ducks 4 OT (Series tied, 1-1)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 May 2013 - 01:01 AM

Kronwall has been awful. He just can't seem to handle the puck at all. I've never seen a player "regress" as much as he has this past year. Can't settles the puck....horrible passes...can keep the puck in while on the PP...and he keeps getting beat by guys with speed.

 

I don't think he's regressed necessarily, he's just the #1 guy now so he's getting tougher matchups and being asked to do more.




#2388449 Bertuzzi not returning Wednesday vs Kings

Posted by Red Wings Addict on 23 April 2013 - 06:29 PM

I don't know.  Bert hasn't played at all.  No way he's up to a game speed level anywhere close to where the active players are. 

 

I'm not strictly against it but I'd definitely be concerned. 




#2387559 4/21 GDT

Posted by jeff48109 on 21 April 2013 - 09:40 PM

Hitting shinpads would be a step up.  Remember Filppula's shot on the 3 on 2 yesterday?

 

i thought he was dumping that into a corner?




#2387070 4/20 GDT: Red Wings 1 @ Canucks 2 (SO)

Posted by GoWings1905 on 20 April 2013 - 09:45 PM

Cory Emmerton has developed into a very solid role player. One of the few players that has exceeded expectations this season.


#2386930 Tatar frustrated; says he will only play in NHL when contract done

Posted by cupforwings on 20 April 2013 - 07:04 PM

But we need someone like Tatar who actually shoots not a playmaker like Nyquist. But I do believe Nyquist has the higher ceiling.

 

Nyquist has the same amount of goals in 2 less games in the AHL this year.  I'm not convinced Tatar is this great shooter that people think he is.  IMO, just from watching the games this season, Nyquist is the better player.  He has really started controlling the game when he is out on the ice the last few weeks.




#2386544 The Race for Eight: Blue Jackets, Stars, Wings

Posted by GoWings1905 on 18 April 2013 - 05:10 PM

I still feel like people don't realize that we actually played well last night. They only had 17 shots, remember. We put on 34. We Were buzzing. Not much you can do about a goalie standing on his head.


The Wings did play pretty well. The only issue is I have seen that high shot total before with nothing to show for goals. Namely the series against Nashville where they peppered Rinne.

The Red Wings still play on the perimeter too much and many of their shots are rather harmless. They can't or in some players cases (Franzen and Filppula stand out) won't go to the tough areas of the ice to score goals.

This team desperately needs some size and goal-scoring ability on the wing.


#2386513 EDGE

Posted by kipwinger on 18 April 2013 - 03:31 PM

Ideally I'd like guys that are edgy, but at the same time know how to contribute.  I don't think bringing in any more Tootoo type guys is going to do anything.  But look at Columbus, they're a team full of scrappy, edgy guys, who still find a way to produce at the NHL level.  Not that I necessarily think that Columbus is some sort of organizational model or anything, but simple that a couple Foligno, Dubinsky, Umberger style players would be helpful. 

 

Note to all the argumentative types out there: I am not saying I want to be Columbus nor am I saying that the three guys I mentioned are available, or should be on our radar.  I'm just saying a couple guys with their skill set would probably help us out. 




#2385248 Tambelinni fired, MacTavish new Oiler GM...Scott Howson new Sr VP

Posted by Buppy on 15 April 2013 - 11:55 PM

Howson was responsible for bringing in Bobrovsky during the offseason, before he was fired.  Actually he was responsible for every major move the team has made since 2007 (except the Gaborik trade) including bringing in Dubinsky, Anisimov, Aucoin, Wisneiwski, Johnson, Prospal, Umberger, Tyutin, Foligno, Nikitin, Letestu, and Erixon. 

 

So pretty much their entire team was acquired by him in one form or fashion, and they're playing well right now, so credit where it's due. ..

Odd that he deserves "credit" for taking over a bad team, and in 5 years they managed to do as well as "mediocre" for one year (thanks mostly to a great rookie season from a goalie he didn't draft) before turning back into a pumpkin for a few more years, and now in the 6th year again reaching mediocre (thanks mostly to a goalie performing better than probably should have been expected).

 

Meanwhile, you wish you had a time machine so you could kill Kenny's mother before his birth because he doesn't know how to stop players from aging...