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#1996538 Trade Cleary?

Posted by Zetts on 09 June 2010 - 12:26 AM

This season is a make or break season for Cleary. And he knows it. And that's good.

I definitely disagree. He has a NTC and 3 years left on his contract. How often do teams ask players to waive those? More to the point, how often do the Detroit Red Wings ask players to waive those?

#1995947 The Curse of Marian Hossa

Posted by Zetts on 07 June 2010 - 05:24 PM

More like "Chicago offered me a better long term deal!"

Get over it, guys. Hossa didn't owe Detroit jack s***.

I don't think too many people are angry that he didn't re-sign. In fact, I'm quite happy that he didn't. We would have given up depth for a choker.

What a lot more people are angry about is that he came to a winning roster for a cup, took 7.4 million, top line minutes, and didn't play like he deserved either.

#1995299 The Curse of Marian Hossa

Posted by Zetts on 06 June 2010 - 02:19 PM

You mean your MSpaint skills? :P

But seriously, how can you hate this guy, he is a classiest guys out there. Because he decided not to play for peanuts, which is what Wings could only afford?

He came to a winning roster in Detroit saying that he wanted to win a cup. He took large amounts of money, and used top line minutes and couldn't produce. Maybe he wanted us to carry him to a cup. Or maybe he just sucks. Either way, he's a leach.

Yes, he wasn't terrible. But we had just won the cup and he wanted one. Our roster was fine. I don't hold him solely responsible. But I sure as hell don't like him. And for 7.4 million you'd damn well better do more than "look good". For that sort of money and top line ice time you'd better be scoring.

And for anyone who says he was injured, he got 40 goals during the year with the same injury. He had the injury all year. Besides, this year's playoffs just confirm it. He's sucking it up again.

#1994800 Bertuzzi states he will either stay with wings or retire

Posted by Zetts on 05 June 2010 - 11:43 AM

I still don't get how Kenny can justify not bringing in more offense. We never replaced the production we lost after 2008-2009, and Hudler will be rusty as s***, I don't expect SFA from him this season.

Drop Lebda, Williams, and maybe someone else (Lilja's name keeps coming up) and get a G.D. scoring RW to work the 1st/2nd line.

Beacuse you can't expect to stay at the level of firepower we had that season. We had contracts with stars being undervalued. Most notably, Zetterberg's contract was 2.8 or so I believe? The salary cap doesn't allow you to keep it. The best way to get back to that level is draft high end talent and win while they're still on entry-level contracts. Unfortunately that's not particularly easy to do, especially with how late we draft.

#1977503 Marion Hossa

Posted by Zetts on 06 May 2010 - 01:21 PM

He looked good for us last year too, but that didn't stop people from bitching just because he didn't score.

To be fair, when you're paid 7.4 million, you'd damn well better do more than "look good".

#1971939 Put Ozzy in.

Posted by Zetts on 02 May 2010 - 11:00 PM

#1965700 Very Knowledgeable Shark Fan

Posted by Zetts on 29 April 2010 - 12:30 PM

Don't forget the line about the Sharks' forwards being 6'6", 250 and hitting like mack trucks. That was the line in 2007 right?

Heatley is injured. Pretty badly from what I hear. That should reduce his effectiveness.
There is absolutely no reason to think that Thornton will assert himself in the playoffs, now or ever. That's just wishful thinking.

I'd say that the series would be pretty even. But I give the Wings the edge because we don't shoot the puck into our own net in overtime.

And Marleau is not good looking.

#1950880 New SO Rule For Next Season

Posted by Zetts on 19 April 2010 - 09:01 PM

And sometimes you could lose the SO because you didn't have your best player shooting third. That's why situational coaching is important in the SO.

Tort's mind might have changed because it was score or go home. It was round 3 and the Rangers' last chance. That's why your mind would change.

Logic is taking a serious beating here.

If you put your best shooter FIRST, you won't even get to that point. Say Gaborik was, for the sake of argument, a 90% shooter. Put him FIRST and you increase your chances of never getting to that point where it is do or die at all.

If the second best option isn't going to cut it in round-by-round sudden death, then why would you want him shooting in essentially the same situation in the third round? I would want Gaborik in that spot any day of the week over Jokinen.

...exactly. You never put out your second best option.

If he felt Gaborik was better he would have put him there over Jokinen. See, best players first. Because screw maybe making it to the fourth round with a killer shooter. You have to make it there first (or win, if your BEST shooters are good enough to win it first). Therefore, the better shooter of the two should be put third and the worse of the two fourth.

And sometimes you could lose the SO because you didn't have your best player shooting third. That's why situational coaching is important in the SO.

To clarify, I'll go over this point further:
You're only changing the order of your goals (or the order of your best chance for a goal really). You want to get as many of those goals as fast as you can. That's how a shootout works.

#1950873 New SO Rule For Next Season

Posted by Zetts on 19 April 2010 - 08:43 PM

Why bother posting then?

There is plenty of situational coaching involved in the SO. First of all, not every coach is going to put their best SO player out first and that doesn't make them crazy. What's crazy about putting your best SO player in the third spot? When looking to score in the SO to win or tie you would want your best SO player in that spot. Would Tortorella have still sent out Jokinen knowing that their playoff lives were on the line or would he have chosen to send out Gaborik if he had the choice? That's situational coaching. The only situational coaching that the list of three method allows for is who to leave off the list in case the SO goes to extra rounds.

Because you could have lost the shootout by the time you get to your best shooter if he's third? Or failed to put it away earlier and give the other team a chance to get back in the shootout. For example, say you put your second best shooter third. Then you could lose a chance to win the shootout if, say, you're up 1-0 and the second shooting team in the second round. It gives the other team a better chance to tie it up.

There is no possible reason to not go best to worst. It can only hurt you.

And why should Tort's mind have changed between the start of the shootout and that point? He knew when he named Jokinen that far into his list that it's round-by-round sudden death, and yet you think he would put out the second best option? Right.

#1950859 New SO Rule For Next Season

Posted by Zetts on 19 April 2010 - 08:23 PM

I don't see how there's situational coaching here. There's only one thing you want the player to do and that's score. If you're not already putting out your best SO players from best to worst, then, as a coach, there's something wrong in your head. You can hardly put out grinders to change the momentum in a shootout.

Whatever, I don't really care either way.

#1947931 4/17 OOT Playoff Gameday

Posted by Zetts on 17 April 2010 - 10:58 PM

The goaltending has been god-awful so far in the playoffs.

These young goalies are sucking ass.

Somewhat, but it's not just them.

Anderson, Nabokov, Bryzgalov, Theodore, Boucher, Halak and Fleury have all been lit up in at least one game and they're not just starting out.

#1937925 Crosby Hits 50

Posted by Zetts on 11 April 2010 - 06:43 PM

sidenote: FSN pittsburgh have the worst commentators.

No kidding.


#1937888 Crosby Hits 50

Posted by Zetts on 11 April 2010 - 06:24 PM

Is it just me, or is this the most dramatic final day to a season in recent memory? Holy crap.

#1936412 Carolina/Boston Game

Posted by Zetts on 10 April 2010 - 01:14 PM

Ouch. Can you imagine what would happen on these boards if that ever happened against the Wings?

#1932828 And The Messier Award Nominees for 2009-10 are..

Posted by Zetts on 05 April 2010 - 02:07 PM

I voted for Lidstrom the get the Yzerman leadership award.

If we're being honest though, the fact that Lidstrom currently has ~81% of the vote suggests that this poll may be just slightly biased, being on a Red Wings board.