We of course can't argue the future. So we don't know how Ed. will look in 5 years. The odds are more of their guys under 25 turn out than our guys under 25 do. The question for them is, do they have the patience to wait. Some of their guys may very well turn out to be stars for other teams.
Now back to what I was writing about. 70% of the SC winners had 4 or more top 10 picks on their team when they won. Yes some were to young to help, some never made it, and some were older vets going for one more cup. But most of those players were in the prime of their careers between 26 and 32. half were drafted by the team they won the cup with. The most any team had was 7.
Now that was just top 10 picks. Most teams had between 10-13 1st round picks on each team. But again those players were pretty close in terms of drafted by the same team they won a cup with or a different team.
Yeah, I really don't think this data is significant what-so-ever. Go back and check how many top 10 picks the worst team in the league had each year, I bet you find similar results.
Bieksa had a pretty nice hit on Brown not to long after the altercation, and that's all that should happen. It should be, if you hit our guy hard, we're going to hit you hard. Not, if you hit our guy hard, we're going to try to punch your face in.
Those are the exact hits the league wants to end, Ramage comes from the other side of the ice with the sole purpose of making a hit, not to play the puck. With that much time to make your hit, if you appear to make head contact you should expect a penalty, at the refs discretion, 2 or 5, and possibly a game misconduct.
How about this, there is 45 mins left in that game, after 15 mins Ramage's team is down by 1 and a guy who barely saw the puck coming gets blind-sided without regard for his safety and no way to defend himself.
Ramage saw the play coming, bravo, he made the wrong play in response.
As much as everyone hates it, the checking player has a responsibility to the puck possessing player in blindside instances, real hockey is not a video game where you can turn off injuries and they are trying to protect these possible future stars.
Seriously, stick lift right there and you are in a position to score instead of the showers.
Incidental/minor contact with the head, in college, perfect time to teach.
I don't agree alot with refs, but, I think they got it right sending off the trailing team's captain when that kind of disregard for safety is shown.
Sorry goon fans, this was spot on.
No. This hit should be an example of what is acceptable. It absolutely was not blindside. Ramage came from the opposing players left side and hit him in the right shoulder. Sure, the guy was in a vulnerable position, but that's on him and his teammate who lead him there with that pass. Rampage just took advantage.
And it's not just jumping on an opportunity to crush a guy, it's sending a message saying don't go across the middle of the ice. Maybe next time the guy gives up on the play. That's when the turnovers and scoring chances occur.
A player crossing the blue line, who DOESN'T have the puck, making sure he is onside, isn't helpless to you?
People who actually respect their opponents and don't want quality players heads getting taken off on dirty hits, don't agree with me, so, no, "everyone" in the hockey analysis world does not disagree with me...
Also, the 5+ games is subjective and may be steep, but I think they need to send a message at some point and have fallen short at doing so thus far... I can see an argument for him to not have a carry over into next season, but to suggest that he should not miss the remainder of the SCF is shortsighted and narrow-minded...
I don't get the "checking to make sure he was onside" argument. What was he checking? You don't take a second to look around to make sure you're onsides, you just have to know. The linesman will let you know if you're offsides.
Having said that, I still think the hit was dirty, but 5+ games is a little ridiculous in my mind. Both players hold some blame, but Rome ultimately made the decision to hit him late. If it were up to me I'd give him 2, maybe 3, games.
His season is still most likely done with. Chara does this to a player in the winged wheel. This website and all the forums simultaneously explode.
Of course we would go nuts, it's never easy seeing one of your own lie there motionless. However, that's not an argument you can use while forming your opinion of this hit. When it happens in a game involving other teams it gives us a chance to think rationally, rather than jump to conclusions. Personally, I saw it as a standard hockey play, a penalty for sure, but something that happens every night. Unfortunately it had about as bad of a result as possible. If it were up to me, I would not suspend Chara, but I can understand a game or two. Anything more I think is too much.
I guess I can understand the original penalty, it did look pretty vicious, but to review it and still hand out a fine is ridiculous. Cutler was by definition a "runner" since he was past the line of scrimmage. The NFL contradicted their own rulebook. It's not illegal to push a runner, but since that runner happened to be a QB, the hit Suh with the fine.
No. I respect him, but he has nothing to offer this team. We already have a 3rd line guy that can skate, play defensively, and maybe even put up 30 points....his name is Helm.
Not to be a jackass or anything, but this argument kinda sucks. You'd really say no to that guy just because we have another guy like him? Maybe he could show Helm a few things about putting the puck in the net and if he puts up 30-40 points in the meantime, then why not? I don't think it's absolutely essential that we sign Modano, but I think he can help our team.