Drake_Marcus

Change is scary

I agree.  Plus, at 6'1 and 210 lbs. Semin is ALWAYS going to be harder to play against than Huds.  Also, how much of Semin's under performance was himself, and how much of it was Washington's mismanagement.  I've said before and I'll say again, Bruce Boudreau was a terrible coach for young players because he's not the type of guy that forces players to work within a system to achieve results.  As a result Washington squandered one of the most talented rosters in hockey year after year after year.  Get Semin onto a team where he's expected to do a particular job and is held accountable, and I believe he'll be just like the long list of players who have learned how to play a full game in Detroit.  Not too long ago Dan Cleary was accused of taking shifts off and not playing defense, so was Bertuzzi, and Hossa.  They all did a complete turn around once they came here.  No reason to believe Semin couldn't do the same.  I consider it a reclamation project, and one that could really pay off, if the reports are true and Semin would consider a pay cut to play here.

Obviously there are question marks with the guy, and he's no guarantee, but he might well be worth the gamble if a more consistently proven scoring winger (Parise) can't be acquired.

Edit:  Sniper much?

Do you watch Semin play often?  Semin is softer than a bag of kittens.

Also, Hossa was never considered a poor defender.  He was lauded for his 2 way play long before coming to the Wings.

Him being open to coming back doesn't change the dire financial situation in NJ.

I agree. He shouldn't be too expensive either.

After Jones got 4 mill a year as the reward for scoring 37pts this year I can't really agree with you there.

How do you build a successful NHL team you ask?  It's simple.  I don't get why people think Ken Holland's so smart??



Forwards:

6mil-6mil-5mil
5mil-6mil-5mil
1mil-1mil-1mil
1mil-1mil-1mil
1mil, 1mil

Defensemen:

5mil-5mil
5mil-5mil
1mil-1mil
1mil

Goalies:

5mil
1mil



...THAT's how you structure a 70 million dollar salary cap in today's NHL.  There are 11 players that you give about 5mil to (and three of them you could give 6mil to) - your top six forwards, your top four defensemen and your goalie.  I don't care if you draft and develop them, if you trade for them, or if you sign them.  You get them.  That's where you need your elite talent.  

...As for the rest of the guys, your bottom six forwards, your bottom pairing defenseman, your backup goalie, and your healthy scratches.  None of these guys should be making more than 1mil a season.  Most of them should be cheap, young, big, strong, fast, tough, hard-working ready-to-play draft picks that you make.  They don't need to be able to score.  They just need to be those things.  And you can find those things anywhere in the draft if you're looking for them.  If one of the guy's blows up and is in line for a big contract...you let him walk...and you call up the next guy.

Simple as that.

This represents either some brilliant parody or a shocking lack of understanding.

    LMAO no one can make Franzen look like that...However my point is I would rather have Semin @ 4 then Hudler @ 4.

A) yes, Semin would do that to Franzen.

B) Semin is not going to take a 2million dollar pay cut.

Hopefully this isnt a case of brunnstrom or modano. I see him going somewhere lesd crowded to better his career and boost his stock.

Brunstrom was brought in to compete for a job at training camp and spent his season in GR as a depth forward.  He cost zero assets to acquire and thus was a perfectly sensible signing.

If the Wings sign Brunner it's the exact same situation.  Zero downside.  If he thrives he makes the team better, if he fails to thrive he gets buried in the minors and didn't cost a pick or prospect to obtain anyway so whatever.

Good post Richdg. I wouldn't worry about all the neggs you get on the comments. Since I've been here, I have noticed many a Wing fan either incapable or unwilling to face the fact that it will soon be time to rebuild and that we aren't a dynasty anymore. Sadly, even when you give them the facts and throw the numbers in their faces, you still wont get them to be realistic about it. Of course we all want to see Detroit be a dominant force in the league and compete for cups year after year. But when you look at the facts and look at the numbers, it's not there and it's easy to see the decline. Thanks for the reality check.

He says to his own sock.

Nah...my first priority is Suter, but it will sting a bit if some other team signs Parise for less than $8M, because if that is the case, then we know that Holland tried to low ball him...same goes for Suter.  That will mean one of two things, Holland low balls them or Detroit is no longer a prime destination for UFA's and that my friend (no matter how many Cups he has been part of) will be the barometer that measures Ken Holland. If UFA's no longer wish to play here, then Holland will need to go...

I read somewhere that replacing Holland will instantly make Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg 5 years younger!

Depends on what he wants..does he want more dough or does he want a serious contender each and every year?  I mean, we're not the only contender but we'll see.  Making $10 mil a year is great but I would assume that winning at least one cup is more important to a lot of this talent.

Holland can give him 10mil because he's one of only a small group of GMs who have owners that are willing to pay out on huge long term contracts AND has more than enough cap room to do so , all while being able to offer an environment that NHLPA polls indicates is highly desirable to players around the league. (and no, I don't care that cougar denies the results of said poll)

Yes there are 30 teams who will want to take a run at Parise but only a handful have a realistic shot of landing him unless he's only looking for a short term deal or isn't interested in winning.

I don't thing we have Parise locked down but the Wings are in a better position than most teams.  Not signing him would cause a great deal of drama online but it's not like we'd be losing out on a generational talent.  There are plenty of ways to improve the team outside of the 2012 UFAs.

This just in....Holland not interested in Parise.  I'm joking, but seriously? It looks like Holland STILL refuses to change the makeup of this team, a makeup that has been waning and waning year after year.  Sorry, just my opinion...

Lol wut? Making an offer to this kid has absolutely nothing to do with Parise.  Even if you (incorrectly) assumed there was only one spot on the roster your rage still doesn't make sense.  The only way your response can be interpreted as anything but a spastic, thoughtless reaction is if you believed the Wings were at 49 out of 50 on the contract limit AND trades were illegal.

lol painfully soft, inconsistent, wants to be paid for the seasons he had 3 years ago and not his latest seasons, f*** NO.

He is 23 yrs old and has a job where he makes over 6 million dollars a year, and is at the top level (all star, cup winner, etc.) in his field.

I'm not necessarily a Patty Kane fan, but for pete's sake, have a good weekend drinking, Young Mr. Kane.

Alcohol doesn't make you a different person it can just amplify certain traits and remove inhibitions.  If you're a misogynist ******* when you're drunk it's not some kind of demonic possession... that s*** is just normally under the surface.

"I was drunk" isn't carte blanche for douchebaggadry.

All that being said... he isn't the only entitled douchebag in the Atlantic Division.  A certain Boston forward from Halifax has been thrown out of his share of clubs for being an obnoxious dickbag (a family member of mine witnessed Brad Marchand's antics in a bar this summer after he won the Cup).

Don't get your panties in a wad "Original 12 buddies"

Fine.  We can be "original 12 buddies" but I'm not wearing this charm bracelet.

The problem lies 2-3 years from now when we're gonna be REALLY old and still not have any great prospects.

Holy s***-- this guy can see into the future to reveal the results of the next 2-3 drafts.