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#2456697 ****(Stuff) no one says about the Wings

Posted by GoalieManPat on 22 November 2013 - 01:48 PM

"We dont like our team" - Ken Holland

#2456693 What is Samuelsson's role?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 22 November 2013 - 01:43 PM

Sammy was a good acquisition at the time. It certainly seems that two years and $2m/per would have made better sense. Or even 1yr.


I disagree wholeheartedly. At the time it was a decision based on panic. Holland missed out on Suter and Parise and just grabbed whatever scrap he could. Then Sammy was coming off a year that he couldn't stay healthy and had health concerns still when signed. What happens? He plays only 4 games all year due to multiple injuries and then uses those injuries to block a buyout. Nothing about the the Sammy acquisition could be considered good. Both of Hollands panic signings that off-season (TooToo and Sammy) have no role with this team. Bad management there. 

#2456578 11/21 GDT: Hurricanes 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by GoalieManPat on 22 November 2013 - 09:16 AM

Maybe what they should do is trade #11 back to Ottawa if he doesn't pickup his game. This team needs to quite signing these old Vets cause they never play the way they can and should. #11 should start paying like his worth his 5.5 Million dollars if not he should give some of that money back to the team like Hasek did a few years back.


I wish players would start playing like Maurice The Rocket Richard did & Gordie Howe did two players that give 150% every game. Players like #11 are here for the money and not the Stanley Cup if for the Cup he'd give 150% every game.


These guys are professionals they need to start playing like they deserve to be in the NHL! The New NHL is bad. Their was nothing wrong with the 90's NHL Game! I say get rid of #11 & #90 what have they done lately? But get Injured! They shouldn't have signed them they should have signed #24 and #51 and bought back the same team they had last season.


The Coach needs to start coaching for once and he needs to start being more like Scotty Bowmen was and start showing some tough love to these supposed to be Detroit Red Wings Players. I'm very happy that Detroit Red Wings Won Finally they need to keep it up. 


This post is full of fail.  Yes the wings need to stop signing old vets but thats old vets like Cleary and Bert. Trying to validate your point using Alfredsson is even more fail. The guy is only out pointed by Pav and Z. He was brought in to be secondary scoring not lead the team. So common sense dictates that if hes only behind Pav and Z, who are expected to lead the team in scoring, then he is 100% fulfilling his job as secondary scoring. Keeping Brunner, he of 7 pts over half of which came in the first 3 games, and Fil would not have moved this team forward. They needed changes from a stale roster and at-least made an attempt at it. Please try again though.

#2456478 11/21 GDT: Hurricanes 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by GoalieManPat on 21 November 2013 - 10:11 PM

I cannot remember any player being as invisible while playing with Datsyuk as Cleary.

#2456470 11/21 GDT: Hurricanes 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by GoalieManPat on 21 November 2013 - 10:08 PM

Tatar showed hustle all night like he does most games although he did have one of those "rookie games" where no matter how hard they try nothing seems to go right. Everyone goes through it as a rookie.

#2455925 Respect Babcock and Holland

Posted by GoalieManPat on 21 November 2013 - 03:11 AM

Hossa stats 12-13
40gp and 31 points
Franzen stats 12-13
41gp 31 points

Hossa stats 11-12
81gp 71 points
Franzen stats 11-12
77gp 56 points

Hossa 2 season / 102 points
Frazen 2 season / 87 points

Hossa 5.275 million per season
Frazen 3.954 million per season

Franzen gets paid 74.9% of Hossa and produces at 85.3% compared to Hossa.

Frazen is a much better value than Hossa. Good choice by Holland in a salary cap world.

Since taking Franzen over Hossa-

Stanley Cups:




Thats the only stat that matters. Hossa has been instrumental in two Cup championships. Franzen has been uninspiring in 1st and 2nd round eliminations.

#2455647 Would you consider Howard on a "Cold Streak"?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 20 November 2013 - 07:33 AM

I think Howie played his best game last night since returning from monsters 3-0 run.. I was there though, and pretty high up, so I didn't have the best view to judge his play but I didn't think either of the goals were his fault and he made some great saves.


The first goal he had no chance as on he never saw the puck. It was one of those that a goalie knows someone shot and they just hope it hits them. The 2nd one is not totally his fault. It was a unlucky bounce off the boards but he did seem to react a bit late on it.

#2454450 GDT: Capitals 4 @ Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 16 November 2013 - 11:31 AM

This is for all the Jimmy Howard fans out there ha ha Ha ha ha
now that is a elite goalie right there


Typical Detroit fan response. Wings lost so lets blame the goalie. Lets just disregard the fact the bottom two forward lines and bottom half of the D  are AHL quality at best. Or that this team cant score in the shootout (come on Ive never seen a goalie have an easier time in the shootout than Holtbys 3 poke checks last night) let alone a clutch goal in OT. Lets just blame the goalie and turn a blind eye to whats really wrong with this team. If you believe Jimmy is the problem you don't know the game. Just conveniently forget that without Howards strong play the Wings would have 6-8 pts less this year so far. Im guessing your one of the people that believe Howard is s*** and the Wings should have Petr as the starter right now. The same Petr Mrazek who is curently being outplayed by Tom FREAKING McCollum in GR this year. Howard is an elite goaltender. He is the only reason the Wings made the playoffs last year and the only reason they got past the first round and took Chicago to 7 games. It doesn't matter how good your goalie is when half your team is s***e there will be nights they make the goalie look bad.

#2453813 Filppula to Tampa 5 yr $5 million

Posted by GoalieManPat on 15 November 2013 - 08:29 AM

Fil was always going to put up more points in Tampa, why are people so surprised by this? Especially now as the #1 center. He gets more ice time, more offensive line-mates, and a more offensive system. You also have to add in that Fil was saddled with Francine, Bert, and Cleary for a lot of  last year. I dont care who you are when you have those boat anchors on your line its going to effect your scoring.

#2452883 Jimmy Howard And Monster On Punishing Goalies For Instigating Fights

Posted by GoalieManPat on 12 November 2013 - 03:08 AM

Jimmy needs to get into a fight. The modern day Wings haven't won a Cup without a goalie who has a fight on his record. Specifically he needs to start something with Roy the next time they see Colorado. If Roy and a wings goalie get into it then consider the Cup ours.

#2452882 Women's hockey brawl sets record

Posted by GoalieManPat on 12 November 2013 - 02:59 AM

Uhhhh yea...Id say the following video has more "brawl" in it than anything from that womans game


#2452607 11/9 GDT: Lightning 3 @ Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 10 November 2013 - 08:04 AM

Howard's  been alright but the numbers don't lie and he also has a bad habit of letting in very untimely goals. A little bit of clutchiness wouldn't hurt, maybe we could actually win an OT or two!


Hes already being that "little bit of clutchness" to even get the game to overtime. Howard has been money and yes the numbers do lie. With the amount of turnovers this team has which gift the opposition grade A scoring chances Howard is keeping this team in contention. How many odd man rushes does he face compared to the number the Wings generate. The odd mans against are easily in favor by 3 to 1 yet Detroit is still kept in the game. The last 4 OT games the Wings have lost (SJ, NY, DAL, and TB) his saves are the only reason they get those 4 pts. Heck he had a 65 minute shutout against SJ and still the team couldnt pull it out for him. This team does not need "more clutchness" from Howard. They are getting that. They need the other 16 skaters not named Datsyuk and Zetterberg to be more clutch.

#2452597 11/9 GDT: Lightning 3 @ Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 10 November 2013 - 03:49 AM


I don't think so. 


If you don't think so then name a player not named Hank or Pav who has figured more into the Wings getting points this year than Howard. Without his strong play the Wings wouldn't be taking one point away in these losses when the team doesn't show up. They would be taking 5-2 regulation losses.

#2452095 Are we faking injuries/illnesses to deal with the roster crunch?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 08 November 2013 - 09:05 AM

Franzen needs better linemates...Considering Cleary will ALWAYS and FOREVER clog up the top six wing spot.   Franzen - Helm - Tatar


I disagree. I think Franzen is the anchor to his teammates now. That includes Cleary. Cleary is terrible but at-least hes out there busting his butt every shift.

#2451525 Chicago fans steal players helmet off head and dump beer on him

Posted by GoalieManPat on 07 November 2013 - 07:43 AM

Honest drunken stupidity on the part of the helmet steal. Nothing malicious. The beer dump is low class but expected in Chicago. Honestly I bet that guy is waking up loving his 15 minutes of fame. Made me laugh at the end of a long double shift.