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#2507568 The Niklas Kronwall Appreciation Thread

Posted by GoalieManPat on 09 April 2014 - 02:21 AM

Kronwall getting hate? Only on LGW.


Its not hate pointing out that his weakest aspect is 1 on 1 defending.

#2505464 Question about Mantha

Posted by GoalieManPat on 03 April 2014 - 09:28 AM

I wonder If Holland is still considering calling him up this season. Not that we need him, but if we lock up a playoff spot it might be a good idea to let him play the last game. Then again, our team is finally developing great chemistry.


Unless he walks into Grand Rapids and scores a hat trick in his first 3 games Id say you have a better chance of winning the lottery than seeing him with the Wings. Remember hes been playing against kids. Lets see how he does against men in the AHL.

#2493378 If Kronwall isn't a #1

Posted by GoalieManPat on 09 March 2014 - 08:49 AM

I think what works against Kronwall is that he does a lot of things really well, but he isn't dominant in any aspect of his game.  He isn't a shut down type defenseman, he isn't a game changer offensively, the occasionally "Krowalling" is entertaining, but his overall physical game is lacking, and what GMP said about his shot.  It isn't to say I'm not a Kronwall fan, but I think the fact he's decent at most things, but not great at any one thing is what gives the impression he's not a #1 type defenseman.


Nail on the head. I like Kronner but hes not a true elite #1. Hes pretty much a jack of all trades master of none. The best #1 dmen have mastered atleast one part of the game be it offensively or defensively. Kronner would be a great complimentary dman. You put him and a top notch shutdown D or top notch offensive Dman and I think his game would be stronger. Thats what leads to me to label him more a #2.

#2493339 If Kronwall isn't a #1

Posted by GoalieManPat on 08 March 2014 - 11:12 PM

I think Kronner is a decent #1. Hes not great or elite but he gets the job done. I wish he was more of a shut down defender as this team clearly lacks one. Kronner also at times cant hit the ocean with thrown rock while standing on the shore. There will be stretches where every shot he takes flys high and wide. Hes also taken a notch down in the physical game. I mean whens the last time someone truly got Kronwalled? The other big problem I see with Kronner is bigger forwards have there way with him. 

#2493242 3/7 GDT: Devils 4 at Red Wings 7

Posted by GoalieManPat on 08 March 2014 - 04:53 PM

If Gustavsson is now played game after game, the clock will start ticking towards the inevitable reoccurrence of his legendary groin muscle pull.


Sooooo got any lottery numbers for me?

#2493098 3/7 GDT: Devils 4 at Red Wings 7

Posted by GoalieManPat on 08 March 2014 - 04:47 AM

Howard gives up 3 last night, one of which was a terrible unlucky bounce and another a complete defensive breakdown, and gets crucified by the fans after the game. The next night Gus gives up 4 and looks shakier than Howard yet the offense bails him out with 7 goals and not a peep about his less than stellar game. More proof that Wings fans will never be happy with a goaltender and will always be wanting "the next one" instead of the current one.

#2493097 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by GoalieManPat on 08 March 2014 - 04:36 AM

2 goals in jarnkrok's debut with Milwaukee tonight

And so it begins


And Legwand just put up a 3 point night against NHL competition....

#2491561 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by GoalieManPat on 06 March 2014 - 01:43 AM

Wonder what could of happened with axelsson and ryno if they were given just 5-10 games with the wings


Well of course the Wings would have won more Cups had they just given Axelsson and Ryno a chance!! Are you kidding me? These guys were never going to be good enough to be in the NHL let alone good enough to even merit a look with the Wings back then. Neither have gotten offers from any other NHL club since leaving so every other team must have seen the same the Wings did. Hell last time I checked Ryno couldnt even cut it in the Swedish elite league and has been hanging out in the Swedish 2nd tier since leaving NA.

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#2491333 Datsyuk shut down for 3 weeks

Posted by GoalieManPat on 05 March 2014 - 08:22 PM

Per mlive. Unbelievable. The Olympics knock down our top two players.


Except both were injured before the Olympics....

#2491120 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by GoalieManPat on 05 March 2014 - 05:55 PM

That's wtf I'm saying..... He'll be another wash up sorry to say like cleary Bert and Weiss. All those guys best years are in the past and with the injuries in recent years they only seem to be declining and j see legwand following that same path


Right. Your comparing him to Bert now. Legwand is not 39 and washed up. Hes only 33 so if hes like a 33yr old Bert good deal since he was still a good player back then. 

#2491110 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by GoalieManPat on 05 March 2014 - 05:52 PM

@mabusincarnate to give up what we did for a mediocre player past his prime, he'll be another cleary Bert Weiss.... I don't need any factual stats I seen him play he's nothing special and certainly not someone who will 'help carry' this team with our real stars injured....


Lol because factual stats dont determine how a good a player is ehh?


The Wings are a better team right now than they were at 8am this morning. Dont forget the Wings had Joakin Andersson as there #1 center last night. They needed a center. Sure Jarnkrok was a good prospect but he was doing nothing to help the wings right now. Legwand on the other hand has 40 pts on a bad Nashville team that really doesnt give him much support. He is not the scrub your trying to make him out to be. He will help Detroit. Plus he also brings in something the Wings desperately need.....someone whos healthy. 


Eaves - No real value. He couldnt crack the lineup even with all the injuries. More than likely the Preds had to take him in the deal more than they sought him out.

Jarnkrok - Sure hes a good prospect but hes not the best prospect in the org. If the rumors of him bolting are true then his value is nothing to the Wings. The Wings will never say its true as they could be sanctioned by the league for not negotiating in good faith so we might never know. Nashville also can offer him a roster spot which is something the Wings couldn't for a couple more years. Holland knows a heck of a lot more of the situation than we do. Look how long it took Tatar and Nyquist to be getting minutes in Detroit and they were better prospects at the point of NHL entry than Jarnkrok is. He was atleast 2 years away from meaningful minutes and I dont think he accepts that.

Pick - A 4/3 conditional would have been better but this isnt to big of a loss. 2nd rounders are traded all the time and whoever is drafted wouldnt have influenced the Wings for atleast 5 years.


Legwand - Aging but still putting up solid numbers for a real bad team. Plays both ends. Sure he could be a rental but thats a rental at a position the Wings NEED someone at right now. 


Simply put people here are putting Jarnkrok higher on pedestal than he really was and denouncing Legwand more than they should. To put it plainly one is a proven NHL player and the other was a unproven prospect who might have put the Wings in an NHL me or Im bolting situation. Easy call for a GM. 


Judging by how the game day threads go most fans still want the Wings to be winning right now. If Holland had done nothing or gave up on the season there would be bigger riots here. Hopefully all those raging saying they are done with the Wings hold true to there words. It will be a lot more peaceful here.

#2489918 Nicklas Lidstrom:Greatest Red Wing Ever

Posted by GoalieManPat on 05 March 2014 - 05:45 AM

I love Nick.....but Gordie is the greatest Wing

#2488371 Very Chris Very, Very Osgood...very

Posted by GoalieManPat on 01 March 2014 - 05:33 PM

Osgood is a terrible color guy. He needs to stay at the intermission desk. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk

#2487385 2/27 GDT : Red Wings 6 at Senators 1, Franzen w/Hat Trick

Posted by GoalieManPat on 27 February 2014 - 07:47 PM

Obvious kick

#2487238 2/26 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Canadiens 1 (OT)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 27 February 2014 - 07:33 AM

Like it or not, Quincey is playing well.

Hes got a good case of the "contract yearitus". Hopefully Holland doesnt fall into his trap. Im not holding my breath though.

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