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#2426838 Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 05 July 2013 - 12:43 PM

Another short term fix, that will not address our need to get bigger and stronger. Waste of $$$ in my opinion.


The best thing about a short term fix is its short term. Get him for a season and hope for better FA's next year. If it works out then good its better than having they money sit.

#2425205 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by GoalieManPat on 03 July 2013 - 01:15 AM

4. Lack of Team Talent? - We played Chicago harder than anyone they met en route to winning the cup, and had 3 chances to eliminate them. As of right now, the team will be adding Helm, Bertuzzi, Dekeyser, and Tatar to next years full time roster and losing Filpulla and White for sure. Brunner and Cleary remain to be seen, but can someone tell me how next years team isn't better than last years based on injuries alone, and before you take into account the development of all of our rookies?


Its not an overreaction to say Holland hasn't been living up to his reputation the last 5 seasons. The guy has without a doubt let the roster get stale and the teams declining results prove that. It started with him hanging on to Draper and Maltby way to long and now hes doing the same with Bert and Cleary. He hasn't made a solid free agent signing since Rafalski and a good trade since Stuart. He seems to try and be doing just enough to stay in the playoff hunt but not enough to be a true contender. 


Yes they played Chicago hard but lets be realistic. Chicago played probably there worst 4 games of the postseason at the start of that series. The fact that Chicago was then able to kick it in gear and win three straight elimination games shows how big of a divide there is between the two. 


You cant say this team will be better next year just because of the young kids coming up and players getting back from injury. You cant be sure how Tatar, Nyquist, and Anderson fair through a full NHL season. They could be solid but they are just as likely to struggle as rookies. Sure Dekeyser looked real solid before his injury but he struggled quite a bit in the AHL finals once coming back. And theres no guarantee Helm ever gets back to the level he was playing at before all his injuries. Hes barely played in a year and a half and who really knows if this mystery back injury ever will heal right.


The teams biggest need is a 2C and a true scoring winger. I dont see Holland doing anything to fix it this season. In fact I wouldnt be surprised to see Brunner leave with a better offer elsewhere and then Holland panics and resigns Cleary for 3 years. I see this being just as likely and him signing any impact player.  

#2424901 Report: Red Wings out on Lecavalier - signs with Philly 5@4.5 per

Posted by GoalieManPat on 02 July 2013 - 05:48 PM

The thing with the current NHL is that to get that top FA you need to overpay a bit. Hollands continual reluctance too leads to what happens last year where you just end up with table scraps (Sammy and Tootoo) and the ironic thing with those two is he ended up overpaying them. Do you overpay for every free agent? No. But when your team has a glaring need and nobody to fill it yes you might have to overpay. 5/5 may sound like a lot now but come the end of the contract the cap will be back up another 10-12 million at-least. Every player that the Wings seem to have interest in this season seems to have the tag line "but the Wings dont want to match his asking price" attached to it. This organization is no longer the Wings of 96-08 where players were willing to take a discount just to come play in Detroit. With the parity in the league that advantage is now gone. You want a top FA you have to pay them like a top FA.

#2424529 Tim Thomas watch 2013

Posted by GoalieManPat on 01 July 2013 - 06:06 PM

When he was playing his best, he was the #1 goalie in the entire league.


fixed. No telling what a year off does to him.

#2424162 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by GoalieManPat on 30 June 2013 - 06:39 PM

waste of a pick.


Just think. They gave up nothing to get this extra pick so its a free gamble.

#2424159 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by GoalieManPat on 30 June 2013 - 06:36 PM

when a guy is ranked 230th by CS you can wait. No I have no idea how he will turn out. But there is no reason to take him now. He would have been there in the 5th, 6th, 7th rounds.


I can give you a good reason why to take him now. Another team shows interest in taking him before you pick again. CS means nothing when your own scouts think hes better. If CS meant everything then Dats and Hank would have been 1st rounders.

#2424145 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by GoalieManPat on 30 June 2013 - 06:23 PM

Terrible pick.


No way for you to know that until 5 years from now. 

#2423900 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by GoalieManPat on 30 June 2013 - 03:55 PM

Only two spots back and you pick up another 2nd rounder. Gotta count that as a win.

#2422602 Bryan Bickell

Posted by GoalieManPat on 27 June 2013 - 01:01 AM

Do not want. Hes going to be Marty Lapointe v2.0. Except Marty was a better scorer.

#2422599 17yr old hockey player charged for on-ice assault.

Posted by GoalieManPat on 27 June 2013 - 12:54 AM

Kid started it. Other kid took it WAY too far. Still don't think he should be criminally charged. Just banned from the league or something equally serious but not criminal.
I just think it's a slippery slope to press charges on a hockey fight.


I agree pressing charges for a hockey fight is a slippery sloap. But this wasnt a hockey fight. A hockey fight is two guys willingly squaring off and going at it and stopping if one is defenseless. This was one kid grabbing another kid off the ice who had no intention of fighting and just laying into him with sucker punches like a punk. The kid goes down and the punk continues to lay punches into him. That is not a fight. Its one kid throwing a hissy fit and assaulting another. So what that the kid sprayed the goalie. The goalie isnt going to die. It barely effects a goalie. Laying into a kid when hes not looking and while hes on the ice can cause serious harm though. There is to much of this junk in youth hockey. Its going to take a couple punks getting charged to stop it. I dont like the idea of it but if it cleans up youth hockey then Im all for it.


-I'd like to state its much more "cowardly" to snow a goalie in a blowout win than to stick up for your goalie in that matter. Overboard? Hell yes but not cowardly.


Sucker punching someone and then continuing while they are down and defenseless is the definition of cowardly.

#2422383 Howard a top 6-8 goalie?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 26 June 2013 - 04:58 AM

Goalie stats are affected by the team in front of them. A goalie that plays on a good defensive team would have better stats with them than he would on a team that isn't as good defensively.


Which helps his case even more since hes been playing behind the worste defenses the Wings have had since the early 90's and still putting up top 10 numbers.

#2420846 Ilitch reveals plan for new $450m, 18,000-seat Red Wings arena

Posted by GoalieManPat on 19 June 2013 - 04:54 PM

I love the Joe but its time. When I go with my pops we have to leave before the game ends so we don't get caught in the mosh pit to get out. He doesnt walk well enough anymore to handle that. 

#2416470 Standing pat according to Malik

Posted by GoalieManPat on 31 May 2013 - 07:51 AM

Standing pat and going with youth development only works if you move the old ineffective players out so the kids can get the experience they need. IE Sammy and Bert at minimum.

#2416293 Franzen Buyout?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 30 May 2013 - 05:05 PM

Franzens last couple seasons were summed up perfectly in one shift last night. It was in the 3rd when the Wings were pressing. Hank was in the corner working hard trying to shake a defender for a good 10-15 seconds. Franzen parks his ass at the faceoff circle and just stares at Hank. Doesnt try to improve his shooting angle, get open, or support Hank in any way. Just stares at him while Hank is working away the whole time. When Hank finally shakes the guy and is able to get the puck to Franzen shoots a weak shot into Crawford chest. I dont care how "managable" the guys cap number is. A manageable cap number means nothing when you don't produce when it matters. Franzen has been a no show in the playoffs for three straights years now. You cant claim he "turns it on in the playoffs" anymore because he just doesnt. Thats not even mentioning the multiple times Franzen has gone 15 to 20 games without a goal. Thats fine if your in the bottom 6. Not if your getting top 6 and PP time. Add in that he brings absolutely nothing to the team when hes not scoring and that manageable cap number looks worse every day. 

#2416291 Wow... Danny Cleary

Posted by GoalieManPat on 30 May 2013 - 04:54 PM

Who said anything about choking? We played ABOVE our talent level. Which s the point. We can't eep bringing the sme old tired, beat up, worn out guys back and expect to improve. It doesn't work that way.


While its true the Wings did play above there talent level. Dropping a series you lead 3-1 including a game you held the lead in going into the 3rd at home is a choke job. Your expectations of what a team should do is fluid through a series. You can be a favorite but if you go down 3-0 you expect to lose. Same the other way a around. If your an underdog and you go up 3-1 you expect to advance. Anything else is a choke job.