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#2541412 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 15 October 2014 - 10:11 PM


Fair enough.  But he's got to be better.  As I stated, shootouts are a big part of the NHL playoff picture for the lower seeded teams.  


If the team can get him some goal support in shootouts then I think you might see him save more. It seems like he feels he has to stop everything to even have the slimmest shot at winning a SO and tightens up. 

For everyone crying for Tatar, we don't know who our 3rd shooter would have been, do we? 


True, but he should have been the first or second regardless.

For guys complaining about Nes in the SO... You guys do know he scored on Rask in the SO in preseason? so why not


Your first shooter is the most important. They set the tone for the rest of the SO as to whether your playing catchup or trying to finish the game. You need your best player shooting first not a rookie 3 games into his career. 

#2541398 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 15 October 2014 - 09:59 PM

What would possess you to put Nes in for the shootout? I have been wondering why he is even on this team honestly. Can't blame the guy for not scoring in the shootout since he didn't play for the last 15+ minutes, but man that was an ugly attempt.


Nes has been solid 5 on 5 for it being his first couple games. As effective as Abs, Miller, and Anderson.

#2541393 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by GoalieManPat on 15 October 2014 - 09:58 PM

There's Howard being "below" average like he usually is in shootouts.  ''


And again.  Remember how many shootout points Howard lost us last year?  


Really. Your going to bag on Howard for the shootout when he was the only reason the Wings got a point. Rremember that you have to score in the shootout to win. The Wings were just as  bad at converting in the shootout as Howard was stopping them last year so dont put all those lost points on Howard. Look at the attempts by Boston compared to the attempts by Detroit tonight. Same thing as last year.

#2540276 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by GoalieManPat on 12 October 2014 - 02:16 AM

it's just that every scoring chance is in the back of the net. I never noticed a single big save from him. We were dominating in the 3rd and he lets in two on there only two decent scoring chances. Obviously a good team is going to push hard and you have to expect your goalie to make a save on a good scoring chance at least once a game. but none today and we lose


I think your dislike for Howard is screwing your perception of what happened. You say every good chance goes in but your conveniently forgetting the saves he does make. Getzlaf wide open from the slot the last couple minutes with traffic in front of him right after another wings turnover. That was a big save. The first goal was definitely his blunder but he played well the rest of the game. Certainly wasnt the reason the wings lost. You said in another post that so far Howard has been outplayed by both goalies so far. Jimmy beat Rask only giving up one goal which was a pretty darn good shot. Pretty much the same shot that Nyquist beat Andersen with tonight yet you demonize Howard for letting it in and not Andersen? Glendenings goal was extremely weak. Had Howard let that in he would be getting crucified by you and others on the boards but another goalie lets it in and he still is considered to have "outplayed" Howard. 


Plain and simple there are always going to be Wings fans that point to the goalie first after a loss but in reality this game was lost mostly due to the Wings inability to finish chances and one poor officiating decision. The game should have been 4-2 before the Getzlaf incident had the forwards come through. The Wings opened the season against the two highest point teams last year and outplayed them both. Encouraging start to the season. 80 more like those two and the Wings will be alright.

#2534019 What Might Have Been: Gretzky to Detroit?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 11 August 2014 - 04:46 PM


I stand by my original statement.  Gretzky retired in 1999 at the age of 38 with 62 points.  In 2002 Yzerman was 37 and put up 48 pts. 


So the question is, do I believe a 41 year old Gretzky (the age he would have been in 2002) could put up more than 48 points on that team? 


Yes, yes I do. 


Despite his retirement, I'd still rather have had Gretzky in 2002 than Yzerman. 


Maybe but a 41 year old Gretzky would in no way be as effective as Yzerman was defensively. Gretzky may have matched him in points but the Wings would have given up quite a few more. 


it most definitely would have cost us Yzerman, but I would've been ok with that. Fedorov was the key to our Cups


Wow that comment is baffling. 97 sure Feds was better. 98 Yzerman wins Conn Smythe. 02 Yzerman. Your forgetting one major thing and that was Stevie Y's leadership. Feds was not even close to the leader that Stevie was. Dont forget the Wings were down 0-2 going into Vancouver in the first round before Yzerman rallied the troops. You dont have Yzerman on the team and theres a good chance that hall of fame Wings team is out in the 1st round.

#2531833 What is the plan with Mrazek?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 12 July 2014 - 12:34 PM

No way that Gus groin last a whole season. Mrazek will get 15+ games this year plus starters role in GR. Hes in Detroit from the start next year.

#2531221 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by GoalieManPat on 10 July 2014 - 05:07 PM

What makes me the most infuriated with this signing is Holland doesnt seem to be making this move to better the team. Hes doing it to basically give his buddy a free paycheck and keep a promise that shouldnt have been made. Kind of like if your own a place and your kind of forced to give a job to a cousin, in law, or friend even though they arent qualified but because they are family/friends. You know they wont improve the workplace but it makes your conscience feel good by doing it. 

#2531200 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by GoalieManPat on 10 July 2014 - 04:49 PM


This same article also has Holland saying Cleary will have to beat out other players to be in the lineup. But lets ignore that because it isn;t in line with Holland bashing.


Do you really believe that Holland will release or demote Cleary over a youngster that can be sent down even if the youngster completely outplays Cleary?? What message does it send to the young players in the organization? They preach to them to work hard and youll earn your spot but all they end up seeing is those spots theyve earned given to players that should have been put out to pasture years ago.

#2531189 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by GoalieManPat on 10 July 2014 - 04:41 PM

You look at the decisions that Nill has made in his short time in Dallas compared to the decisions Holland has been making and its becoming ever more clear to me that Nill might have been the true brains in the front office. 


I really dont want to pile on Cleary as theres no doubt the guy gave 150% every game to the organization and it would be disrespectful to him to insult him where he should be commended for his work. Its clear though that in giving all that it took way to much of a toll on his body. He just cant perform at the NHL level anymore. Lets be honest who in there right mind would turn down that contract though at his age. I cant be mad at Cleary. All the blame needs to be on Holland.

#2521595 Janne Makkonen - 'Life and Death'

Posted by GoalieManPat on 24 May 2014 - 07:45 AM

Good video. Only thing that was off with it was the Boston marathon shots. What the hell does that have to do with hockey? It was downright disgusting in my opinion how the long the Boston sports teams used Boston Strong as a marketing gimmick.

#2517327 ECSF : (4) Montreal Canadiens vs. (1) Boston Bruins

Posted by GoalieManPat on 26 April 2014 - 06:30 PM

I hate them both. I hope both teams get popped for PED's and have the series cancelled and both eliminated.

#2517156 ECQF - Game 5 - Red Wings at Bruins - 3:00 PM EST

Posted by GoalieManPat on 26 April 2014 - 04:55 PM


His stupidity helped cost us this game.  


That would be Franzen actually...

#2516827 ECQF - Game 5 - Red Wings at Bruins - 3:00 PM EST

Posted by GoalieManPat on 26 April 2014 - 04:11 PM

Franzen signed first, I don't think he was picked over Hossa.  I dont think they wanted to gamble to see if Hossa would re-sign and end up losing both.  Truth be told though, Hawks had a worse cap situation than the Wings at the time and still managed to sign Hossa.  Holland worries too much about depth, depth guys can be easily picked up.  Legit stars are much harder to come by.


If I remember right Holland wanted Franzen first and then wanted to wait for the offseason to offer Hossa a contract. That in my book is choosing one over the other. 

#2516779 ECQF - Game 5 - Red Wings at Bruins - 3:00 PM EST

Posted by GoalieManPat on 26 April 2014 - 03:56 PM

Anybody can blame Franzen can also blame the refs for not calling the dive... Again!


If Franzen would actually skate he wouldnt have to grab someones shoulder. Grabbing a players shoulder like that in plain view is a penalty 100% of the time regardless of if there was a dive.

#2515826 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by GoalieManPat on 25 April 2014 - 02:49 PM

The problem is that Holland has neglected size in this line up. We have capable top 6 youngsters but we need a big winger or two. Losing Franzen we are shrimps up front. I don't see too many high end power forwards on the market either


This would be true if Franzen actually used his size. Franzen plays like hes 5 foot 6. 


You do realize we probably wouldn't have made the playoffs if it weren't for his ridiculous surge in the latter part of the season, right?


You do realize if he hadn't completely disappeared for the last month and a half of the season when the team needed him most they wouldn't have been an 8 seed. Nyquist hot streak was what really got the Wings in the playoffs. Its not just that Franzen wasnt producing points. He wasnt doing ANYTHING on the ice that could be considered productive.