I will say that of the four people listed here 3 were involved in contract drama (Osgood, Fedorov and Datsyuk). In terms of being a "True Red Wing", Zetterberg probably is likely the most loyal one. He lacks in individual hardware though. Doesn't have 3 Selke's and 4 Lady Byngs nor does he have a Hart Trophy and only has 1 Stanley cup.
I'm actually happy Helm is back. I'm not thrilled about the money, but it was necessary to keep him. I can see that most of you didn't want him back, especially at that price, but the truth is, if we lose Helm we're going to be a slower team. I think our options were to either sign Helm at 3.85 or sign a different player, who is slower or has similar production for $4 mil or more. Different doesn't mean better. Sometimes better means trying something different. Carl Hagelin, who I feel is a similar player to Helm, had numbers similar to Helm before he was put on a good line with Bonino and Kessel. Helm could very well be the same way. Put him on a line with AA or Larkin and Tatar or trade for Nash or sign Vanek and that line could produce big numbers.
Abdelkader also played three minutes more per game too and spent practically all of that time with Z and/or Datsyuk.
Z isn't as good anymore so playing with him isn't as awesome as it used to be. Nyquist plays with Tatar who has some of the best possession numbers on the team (better than Zetterberg's) .. Not to mention Nyquist plays against lesser competition more often than not as well.
Additionally Abdelkader's ice time also goes towards penalty killing. About 1.5 minutes per game he plays shorthanded. Something Nyquist doesn't do.
Even with less ice time, Nyquist managed to take more shots on goal over the course of the year. Yet Abdelkader had 4 game winning goals to Nyquist's 3.
No matter how one cuts it. Abdekader makes less money, has about the same points as Nyquist and does more on ice with penalty killing, blocked shots, hits (team leader for hits btw) and fighting.
I'd say for all the things I listed, in terms of money the Red Wings management is getting a bigger bang for their buck with Abdelkader's deal compared to Nyquist's deal at the moment.
Eichel had only 8 more points than McDavid, in 36 more games. I don't think it takes any ifs and assumptions to say that McDavid was the better player. If he wins it I wouldn't like it, but I think he deserved the nomination.
I also think Gost should win. Phenomenal performance for a rookie defenseman.
Never understood the strategy of creating a line to "shut down" an opposing teams top line; when said line will not produce any offence at all. This just means youre wasting 20 minutes of the game not scoring. If the other team's top line scores just once, youre basically starting a 2 period game down 1-0.
What is their to understand? That line has killed us. Create a line to stop them, any scoring from our guys on that line is a bonus. That line has some speed and some grit, I like the move a lot. Someone has to be in Johnson's mug all night. I have a feeling it may be Glendening's turn to take that role.
So the whole idea of "shutdown" line worked very well from 2007-2013 when Zetterberg was the designated shutdown forward. (Against Getzlaf, Riberio, Crosby, Malkin, Toews, and many others)
1. Because he had the ability to shutdown opposing teams top line.
2. Because his possession was insane to where his line would create offense and score (a lot).
Now I get the idea of Glendenning not being ideal for shutdown because:
1. While he can "shutdown" top line opposition..
2. He has terrible possession and can't generate offense.
Having said all that we don't really have much of a choice because:
1. We don't have a prime Zetterberg type shutdown forward (or a Toews, Koptiar, Bergeron etc etc etc) Not even Zetterberg himself is a Zetterberg.
2. Glendening is all we have in the shutdown role.
We play with the cards we are dealt.
Also to note - the famous "Grind line" was also a shutdown line. Screwed opponents over while scoring a decent amount.
These people get paid millions and millions of dollars annually to shoot a rubber puck into a mesh net; When these same people push for a 3 year contract at 35+ years old (which is not the organizations idea) - they do so knowing the implications early "retirement" will cause - so I have no idea how you can justify leaving after the 2nd year, to go and do the exact same thing somewhere else because you "want to gives back to Russia people".
That's great Pavel - and can you also "gives back" our $7.5 Million salary cap penalty which basically prevents us from signing Steven Stamkos?
Stop being emotional, Pavel Datsyuk is not injured or unable to be an effective NHL player... He is literally going to do the exact same thing next season for a different team without caring about the setback it causes the Detroit Red Wings... The same team that signed him in 2001 (when the "Russia people" weren't paying nearly as much money to it's players).
I don't know about you, but if someone in a foreign country offered to pay me $74,525,000 over 14 seasons to play hockey, I probably honour the 15th season as well.
By that logic Yzerman was worse in 97 and 98 than he was before Bowman got there because his scoring dropped off. Stamkos is a more complete player now than he was when he was up in the top in 3 scoring every year.
To be honest Stamkos actually has significantly declined this year.
His point total last year was 72 (already much lower than his previous years bests) and is 58 this year with only 10 games left. He scored 43 goals last year and is at 33 this year.
His puck possession has dropped aka his corsi/fenwick.
So not only has he fallen off offensively but also in terms of his possession (which people like Buppy and Kipwinger consider a big part of defense).
Grit, faceoff, Takeaway/Giveaway ratio, shot blocking is all still similar to last year
There won't be one. That's every fanboy's fantasy (mine included). We never houseclean, despite being mediocre for several seasons now. If you think missing the playoffs will prompt Ilitch to fire people or for Holland to change his ways, then we'll have to disagree.
LOL. Say what?
We have no talent on defense and have guys playing on the top two lines who are bottom tier forwards.
The defense is awful but this forward group can score and is better than last year. We added a 20 goal scorer out of thin air and the offensive numbers are still in the toilet