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#2624333 Franzen back on ice

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 September 2015 - 02:18 AM

What good is production in in the training room? 3 years in a row of 54 games played or less. yes one was a lockout and he still missed time. In his 10 year career he has scored 17 goals or more in only 4 seasons. the other 6 seasons 16 goals or less. he had a nice run for 5 years 2008-2012. But he can't stay healthy, doesn't produce much of the time, and should have been bought out 2 years ago when we had the chance. Even his supporters knew he was injury prone. Could have walked away for nothing. But no he is still here.

As for his cap hit, it really isn't that good. Compare with backes. 4 mil vs 4.5 mil. 10 years for Franzen 8.5 years for backes. 4 seasons of 17 or more goals vs 6 years. Not to mention backes plays with an edge and has toughness, Franzen gets hurt. You could also compare with Simmons and several others. All in the same price range and bring much more to the table.

I'm so angry at that guy for not playing more than 54 games in the lock out shortened season that only had 48 games in it? He only missed 7 games that year, which is about his usual for a full season.

 

On another note: I love the photo that comes up when you google Johan Franzen. It looks like Franzen was competing to look more battered than Sawchuck's Times cover. When you click on the image it brings you to this story of Franzen getting messed up by Doan- getting 23 stitches and returning to the game without a face shield.

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/columnist/allen/2011-04-16-franzen-face_N.htm 

 

It's the type of story that people love about the character and toughness of a player and their dedication to the team to come back when they weren't expected to. But with Franzen, I guess people had already turned on him at that point and his reputation already formed.




#2623605 Grantland: The Heavyweight Belt of NHL Rivalries

Posted by Jersey Wing on 20 August 2015 - 01:05 PM

Done by year/era and YES, the Wings Avs rivalry as they see it ran the longest of any of the heavyweight rivalries. OMG, so many great fight and brawl clips mixed with some good writing:

 

http://grantland.com...-nhl-rivalries/

 

(Love the top picture lol)




#2622138 Free agents this off season

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 August 2015 - 09:34 AM

Oh ok. New coach so Jimmy is #1 again. What has Jimmy done to deserve #1 again?

 

Started 330 NHL games with a .916 save percentage.  Plus he played extremely well the first half of the season before his injury.  A much larger sample than 7 games. 

 

Mrazek doesn't have to steal anything. He already won the job from Howard.
Proof? Starting every playoff game in the playoffs is a prime example. But yeah...Jimmy is still #1 right? Ok guy. Lol

 

I'm guessing they'll both get a shot at the starting job.  

 

This is in no way a criticism of Mrazek.  Just that the team would be foolish to hand over the reigns completely to a guy with something like 41 NHL starts and who hasn't started more than 50 games since the OHL.  

 

They may start Mrazek right out of the gate, but he will have to play very well to hang onto the spot with Howard on the bench behind him.  My guess is they play them as a tandem and keep them fighting for the #1 spot.  




#2620631 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by Jesusberg on 15 July 2015 - 12:30 PM

 

It's like when your trying to go play street hockey with the boys and your mom tells you to bring your little brother, and you cry and moan because you don't want to bring him. He's not even bad at a street ball, he's just your dorky little brother and you don't want him around.

 

Then one day your going to a nearby parking lot to take slapshots at parked cars and your mom says "bring your little brother with you". But your brother says he doesn't feel well. So you tell him he better stay in and get some rest and that you hope he feels better... but secretly you'd wish he'd stay sick forever. 


That's some passive-aggressive Cain and Abel stuff right there.

 

There will be no s*** storm, not even a fart parade when it comes to Franzen.  I do, unfortunately, understand the financial side of it and the possible ways he can hurt us more against the cap.  If he Is going to be the 13th forward and bump Andersson/Ferraro/Callahan to waivers, I would rather Holland address this issue now and try to trade to odd kids out so at least you don't lose them for nothing. The NHL is a business and I understand having to make decisions based on money first.

 

So, that being known, lets look at who will really be the odd men out with Franzen healthy enough to float around the ice:

 

WITH Franzen, they have 13 forwards signed, Jurco and Pulk would make 15 and with Callahan it makes 16. You have to think that Jurco and Pulk (barring a trade) would be the choices over Ferraro, Callahan or Andersson. So with your 14 forwards set with Jurco and Pulk rounding themout you will have to waive/trade 2 of Ferraro, Callahan and Andersson, there will nZERO room on this team if Franzen starts the season healthy.

 

Tatar-Datsyuk-Abby

Nyquist-Richards-Zetterberg

Jurco-SHeahan-Pulk

Miller-Glendening-Helm

Franzen/Ferraro

 

Sure there is a chance they clear, and they wouldn't be a huge loss I guess, but I just hope that Holland has a trade up his sleeve or two of these guys because at least getting a pick would be fine.  Also, there are a few players in GR WITH exemptions left that could be called up if Franzen goes LTIR, or if there are any other injuries, that wouldn't have to clear waivers to be sent back down. I am  not even entirely sure that an injury call up has to clear waivers...

 

Sure the loss would be minimal, so long as it gets us some kind of compensation in return, but to lose them for ZERO return for a roll of the dice with Franzen is not a good thing.


I'll level with you - I think it would be a mistake to have Jurco or Pulkkinen on the fourth line, which is what will likely happen if Mule is healthy. Is it an ideal situation? Definitely not, but what can you do with Franzen? As others have pointed out, there's too much risk in trying to move his contract, waive him, buy him out, etc. Ken Holland signed him to this deal, and the team is stuck with him. It's not about rolling the dice with Franzen, it's about making a calculated decision and not making a situation worse. Best case scenario occurs when Mule is at full health and contributing 20+ goals. Regardless of his play, his cap hit, his term or whatever, I like guys who can score 20+ goals for this team.

Honestly, I don't think you're getting a pick for guys you may or may not lose on waivers. Personally, I like Callahan's game and I would enjoy having him on Detroit's fourth line. If it doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world, though. A healthy Franzen can make or break a playoff series - you can't say that about Mitch Callahan.




#2618632 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by FlashyG on 02 July 2015 - 03:09 AM

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#2614024 Here we go AGAIN - Coyotes, part DUH!

Posted by evilmrt on 11 June 2015 - 03:08 PM

 
We actually moved out the beginning of the year. Funny thing was it was warmer in MI the day we left than it was the day we arrived in Phoenix. Heat hasnt been to bad. Doubt we will hate it more than 5 months if Michigan winter.


The good thing about Arizona is that you can always escape the brutal heat by driving north 90 minutes. Or enjoy some snow in winter and leave at the end of the day and go back to the Valley.

Anyway, the Coyotes saga is a mess. The only way this team can be saved is if they leave Glendale and move back downtown or to hatch a plan to share a new rink with the Sun Devils, who need to build one pretty soon anyway. The location doomed them from the start.


#2613343 Report: Cleary wants to return for 1 more season

Posted by kipwinger on 06 June 2015 - 06:09 PM

Lol.  I kind of want it to happen just to see people lose their minds. 




#2612880 The "enigmatic" Tomas Jurco: A Thread

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 02 June 2015 - 04:10 PM

I'm not giving up on him.  We'll have a new coach (hopefully Blashill) who I'm hoping inspires him.




#2612577 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by Ekmanc on 31 May 2015 - 08:30 PM

Do we still promote Blashill if he loses Calder Cup?  

No we send him to the salt mines!




#2608405 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by vladdy16 on 18 May 2015 - 05:35 PM

Can you guys at least pretend to be on topic and maybe just put "Babcock" at the end of your post?  




#2608178 Dylan larkin #5 prospect out of top 50 on hockeysfuture

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 17 May 2015 - 12:36 PM

No it sounds cool, better than dyl pickles, or larks, or larky

 

Here's a thought: call him Larkin.




#2605972 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 04 May 2015 - 06:19 PM

Maybe Mantha is cattle as well?


Beat me to it! I spent, like, a WHOLE MINUTE trying to come up with a cattle joke only to be robbed at the last minute.


#2605306 Sigh, having a relapse of irritation

Posted by kipwinger on 01 May 2015 - 10:46 AM

We scored a whole 2 goals in the last 2 games.  I wonder if Pulkinnen was a better option in this series than Ferraro.

 

As a fourth line winger?  I'm not really sure if Ferraro was being counted on to score.  The more relevant question would be "I wonder if Pulkkinen was a better option in this series than Jurco or Andersson"?

 

I still don't think so, but that seems a little more of a fair comparison. 




#2603867 ECQF Game 7 GDT : at Lightning 2, Red Wings 0 (Tampa wins series, 4-3)

Posted by mvanpop on 29 April 2015 - 07:26 PM

:bye1:

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#2601588 Tampa Bay Head Coach Jon Cooper Accuses Red Wings Of Cheating

Posted by KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 on 27 April 2015 - 04:10 PM

Mr. Cooper...

 

 

 

 

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