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@DanMcNeil670

To all my "fans" in #RedWings country: Enjoy your dinner. It's comin' back up later when the hammer gets back to being the hammer.

‏@ShaneOConnell2

@DanMcNeil670 Really? My dinner is staying down just fine. How is yours doing?

@DanMcNeil670 ‏

@ShaneOConnell2 crummy.

No matter what happens, I'm proud of this team. With all the changes, all the kids, and the short season with next to no training camp and no pre season. The way they responded when in a situation where they had to win out the last 4 games of the season just to make the playoffs. Having the kids learn playoff intensity on the fly and make this a hell of a series that WILL go to game 7. 

 

Love the direction this Wings squad is going, and even if no moves are made, this team will be even better next year. 

 

When most teams rebuild, they dwell in the basement for a few seasons. When the Wings rebuild, we give the #2 seed all they can handle in the playoffs. And when we force game 7, anything can happen! BELIEVE

I have to say, I didn't think Sammy looked half bad today! I can't help but imagine what he would have played like if he had stayed healthy!

JUCKf****** POTT!

Datsyuk creating while getting hooked and held big time.

 

I agree with this.  Eaves kills penalties.  Tootoo doesn't.  I would agree with the argument that Tootoo adds more benefit during 5 on 5 play than Eaves does.  But, I think we're struggling more on special teams than we are at even strength and Tootoo doesn;t help special teams.  I wish he was a good penalty killer.

 

I also agree that he should be in instead of Bert.  I would not say this if we were talking about a 100% healthy Bert (or even somewhere close to that), but we're not.  He hasn't looked too spry.  Tootoo should have that spot this game.  I don't know that it will be the difference either way, though.

 

Tootoo's penalty basically lost Game 1 for us.  You can say it was a weak call, and you may be right, but the threshold for borderline calls on Tootoo will always be smaller because he is Jordin Tootoo.  There's a reason he's been healthy scratched by Nashville and Detroit in consecutive years when the games REALLY matter.

 

I agree that there are times 5 on 5 when Tootoo seems to bring energy to the team.  But the bad will ultimately outweigh the good.  Fans see Tootoo and notice him because he's playing "differently" than the other guys.  He runs people behind the play.  He makes checks to make a statement.  He fights if needs to fight.  Fans assume these must be good things because guys like Bob Probert and Darren McCarty did those things.  But those guys played in a different era, and they could actually play hockey with Top 6 forwards, if needed.  Tootoo cannot.  And if you don't do special teams as a Bottom 6 forward, you don't have a secure job in the playoffs.

Are you a fan of the Red Wings or are you only a fan of winning? Every franchise faces challenges. Half the fun is seeing how those challenges are overcome.

Are we as prepared for a cup run as we were five years ago? Are we the number one cup contender? No. Things change, players come and go.

I disagree with the penalty, just stop play and do the face-off again and kick the guy out of the circle.

 

I can see their POV as well though, they don't want face-offs to degenerate into 2 guys dropping to their knees and slap fighting over the puck as soon as it drops.

Im in agreement for the most part. Dont want to give up on Kindl just yet. His pricetag is in check.

I hate that Holland spent 15 mil per on 7-8 sucky guys insteD of 18 mil per on 2 guys. Thats our biggest problem. We have 27 roster players, and only a handful of them are legit. Bertuzzi, Gustavsson, Quincey, Tootoo, Samuelsson, Huskins, Colo, etc. The Return on Investment for these players has been awful so far. Holland did us in when he failed to land Parise and Suter. His checkbook should have been open. But now it looks like we are playing moneypuck. Im not that excited about the Red Wings turning into the Oakland A's of hockey.

 

Where are these guys that you speak of? Suter ? We put a huge offer out for him..he was never coming here..he wanted to play in Minny..end of conversation on that one.  Check out that link with the top defensive scorers on it.  There isn't one guy in the top 30 that is head and shoulders above the rest.  Alot of really good guys there but spending 10 mil a year on any of those guys is crazy. 

Im in agreement for the most part. Dont want to give up on Kindl just yet. His pricetag is in check.

I hate that Holland spent 15 mil per on 7-8 sucky guys insteD of 18 mil per on 2 guys. Thats our biggest problem. We have 27 roster players, and only a handful of them are legit. Bertuzzi, Gustavsson, Quincey, Tootoo, Samuelsson, Huskins, Colo, etc. The Return on Investment for these players has been awful so far. Holland did us in when he failed to land Parise and Suter. His checkbook should have been open. But now it looks like we are playing moneypuck. Im not that excited about the Red Wings turning into the Oakland A's of hockey.

 

What? Obviously the return on investement on Colo, Sammy and Gustavsson is still up for debate because they have been injured.  Tootoo has done everything they would've wanted out of him so far..he's been physical, dropped the gloves and changed the flow of games when we needed it.  Bert is what he is, 3rd line guy..10-15 goals a year..good contract..good team guy.  Quincey would be tolerable if we didnt give up a 1st for him..that one hurts.  Huskins was an emergency guy playing for peanuts and doing everything they asked of him. Get over the Parise and Suter thing..you don't get it..they were never playing here..we offered them huge money and they wanted to play in Minny.

Howard's been great or 'good enough' pretty much every game. Even prime Hasek would have had trouble getting us wins when our offense is scoring about 1 goal per game and our defense/PK is so awful.

He needs a rest though, bad. I think Babs made a big mistake playing him against Calgary, a weak opponent and a perfect chance to start Mrazek and let Howie refocus and return against StLouis.

Thankfully the useless Emmerton gets the ax.

Ken and Mickey mentioned during the 1st period of tonight's game that Babs wanted to play Tootoo more than he did, but penalties altered the plan.  So there ya go.

 

We must find this "penalties" character and kill him.

There's a tendency to want to downplay how good some veterans are, mostly because as fans we like things that are new and exciting.  But guys like Sammy, Cleary, Bert, etc. have been playing (and thriving) in this league a long time, and will be HUGE contributors over the course of this season.  If watching Red Wings hockey over all these years has taught me anything it's that smart, hard working veterans are almost always a better option than rookies when you need to give responsibility to someone.  Let Nyquist work his way into the NHL game by filling in during injuries and starting out on the third line.  It will serve him, and the team, better in the long run.

I'm not sure I follow.  Yakupov says the Canadians are dirty.  In order to prove that they aren't Cherry talks about team and league administrative decisions that are made completely off the ice?

Cherry is a retarded dinosaur.  Stop listening to this old curmudgeon Canada!

I still don't understand how big long term contracts can be handed out, they are approved, and now they do not want to be honored?

Yes I can understand they things are started to get out of hand, but the owners did it to themselves...

I think it would be best for both sides for honor all previous agreements, aka have them grandfathered in, but make it clear that this will not happen in the future...

With the formation of the KHL and other leagues in Europe, it does put some pressure on the NHL and owners to some degree.