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#2328599 The best players YOU've ever seen...

Posted by kipwinger on 13 September 2012 - 03:45 PM

We must be thinking about two different Sergei Fedorovs because the one I'm thinking of had ten 30+ goal seasons, two 100+ point seasons, a Hart Trophy, and three Stanley Cups.

Datsyuk is slicker, not better.


#2327537 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by newfy on 02 September 2012 - 10:20 AM

Come on...really? You like that?
What he did there was dirty...and that's a perfect example of why Tootoo is a POS. After the clean hit by Tootoo, Reaves skated over to him and gave him a shoulder or whatever, probably trying to get him to fight...or at the very least get in his face. But right after the shoulder, Tootoo sucker punched Reaves when he wasn't even facing him and Reaves still had his gloves on and both hands on his stick.
Had Tootoo squared up like a man and fought like fighters are supposed to do, Reaves likely would have destroyed him. He's much bigger and a much better fighter. So, it's no surprise that Tootoo threw the sucker punch, otherwise he gets pummeled.

I actually laughed when Detroit signed Tootoo. Blues fans, along with most NHL fans, can't stand Tootoo. So it will just make the games that much more fun because you know sooner or later Tootoo is going to do something stupid/cheap/dirty to cause a ruckus and more message board fodder....assuming there is a season that is. :lol:

Was kinda dirty but Reaves will learn. If you want to make it in a league as a tough scrapper type and youre only 5'8 you learn to do things to keep guys off your back. You make a clean hit and a guy challenges you for it when hes twice your size why should you stand there and let him go to town on your face?

Definitely a dirty playre who has cleaned up his act quite a bit, but its perfect to combat the blues dirty play. I'm hoping its Jackman and Backes that get it first


#2327514 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by GoWings1905 on 01 September 2012 - 09:34 PM

Yeah, because having Tootoo will suddenly give Blues fans a reason to hate the Red Wings.

I hope his first dirty moment comes at the expense of Jackman.


#2326927 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 26 August 2012 - 11:37 PM

Smith will complement Kronwall nicely, screw Jblow.

Ken doesn't wanna part with any of his future Hall of Famers to get him, so I don't even see Bouwmeester as a possibility anymore. Sign Vandermeer and start the season, already.


#2326059 Should Kronwall have to answer the bell for his hits?

Posted by number9 on 19 August 2012 - 10:52 PM

you're right I am arguing the mental aspect of the position enforcers are in causes more mental harm. I'm not discussing the injuries hitting verse fighting causes, I'm discussing deaths.

How many of these hits have caused suicides? I understand that it's not clear cut scientific data, but just from my personal experience and viewpoint it make sense to me that the enforcing position in hockey is very unhealthy much more-so than hitting, as evidenced by the death's of Terrence Tootoo, Trevor Ettinger, Don Sanderson, Boogard, Rypien, and Belak.

Who has died from a hit on the ice? I guess we can use heart illness that triggers from hits, if we do that we have one Markus Wächter, that died due to complications stemming from a bodycheck, but was later announced he had a heart illness. So over the same period of time it's a 6 to 1 ratio on deaths of fighters to non fighters.


So the NHL has been around since 1917....almost 100 years.....and thousands of fighters have taken to NHL ice in that time, and you have a list of 6 players???? I know there have been a couple of unusual tough guy deaths recently....but those deaths are just that....NOT USUAL. And most of those suicide deaths were guys who struggled with addiction, not to mention you have no idea what other problems besides addiction that they were dealing with in their personal lives as well....yet you wanna pin the whole suicide on the fact that hockey allowed him to get hit in the head a lot? Sorry but even if I was anti-fighting I would still call this a very poor argument.

The enforcer system was the best system out there. It was run and facilitated by the players and coaches themselves and worked better than the system in place today. Enforcers made sure dirty crap didn't happen and if it did you got punished for it. Then the enforcers also had their own little side game...which was the heavy weight bouts that were just as much for the fans as they were for themselves...You had big name fighters like Probie and Domi who would square up just to see who would win that round and prove that they are the bigger, tougher, better fighter....you would have thought they hated each other but they actually had huge respect for each other....these were big, tough, nasty.....yet honorable men

Nowadays guys are running everyone, slamming heads into boards, hitting to the head, flopping, the list goes on and on. And the NHL keeps trying to make more and more and more rules to stop it....but you can't stop it. Let the players handle it, they did a better job at handling it than the NHL has, despite their best efforts. Let them handle it, they know best... instead we have baby-proofing do-gooders stepping in and telling them how to play their own sport. In the players poll last year it was something like 99% of NHL players said fighting should not be removed from hockey....they want fighting just as much as the fans do. It has a place....even in this post-lockout league.

And don't get me started on your fighting versus hitting argument....by your logic we would have to remove hitting as well....anddd just as many if not more health concerns arise from hitting, just not as many to the head.


#2326057 Should Kronwall have to answer the bell for his hits?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 August 2012 - 10:25 PM

I dont get why the Wings cant dress one tough guy. Its not like their bottom 6 is some elite scoring squad or something. Fricking Tomas Holmstrom.


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#2326429 Our current forwards.

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 22 August 2012 - 12:04 PM

Yeah but he can score better than any current Wing.

:lol:
His 24 goals and 29 assists for 53 points last year in 82 games says otherwise. And he only got 64 points the year prior with 26 goals in 80 games.

So Franzen outscores him for goals, last year he got a whopping 3 more points than Hudler and in the past 2 seasons, hip point per game percentage is the same as Flips, who so many guys are willing to trade along with our top prospects for Ryan.

Heatley's value has plummeted.


#2326592 RUMOR: Wings have made an offer to Carlo Colaiacovo

Posted by kook_10 on 23 August 2012 - 01:53 PM

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#2326323 New Commissioner?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 21 August 2012 - 07:19 PM

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#2325777 Nyquist vs. Brunner

Posted by brett on 17 August 2012 - 11:38 PM

my expectations..
brunner starts on the wings gets a real chance. fails goes to ahl.
nyquist 40pt season

my wishes
brunner becomes a superstar sniper
nyquist becomes datsyuk
smith becomes lids


#2325829 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 18 August 2012 - 11:53 AM

Tootoo will be a regular on our 4th line. He isn't gonna be getting almost $2 mil/year to play 40 games.


#2324370 Bob Probert: 2 Years Ago Today

Posted by beachwing on 08 August 2012 - 08:49 PM

had some s***ty weather so decided to read Probies book again.....compelling read again. i finished it in 2.5 hours.

Really enjoy the fact it was his words and written that way as well.

Although His constant presence here on the boards brings back nothing but great memories...his death still deeply deeply saddens
me.

The connection he and Stevie had was very touching and watching that Buffalo Brawl is what prompted this post.


#2323299 Your Favorite Hits

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#2322701 March 26th, 1997...The Movie?

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 28 July 2012 - 06:24 PM

Chuck Norris can play Darren McCarty.


#2320305 With cap space to clear, do Flyers become a Wings trade partner?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 July 2012 - 11:47 AM

Please Holland NO Lilja...I haven't forgiven him yet for the 2009 giveaway...


What 2009 giveaway? You're thinking of "Mr. Game 7" (Brad Stuart)

I want Simmonds or Rinaldo on the team. Would make us tougher to play against.