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In Topic: Game Two - Honest Discussion

Yesterday, 12:19 PM


Regular Season average even strength min/game: 
Tatar: 13:43
Nyquist: 13:37
First game of the playoffs:
Tatar: 12:59
Nyquist: 11:07
It's really not as big a deal as you're making it out to be...
Helm also played the most of any forward (20min) and Glendening played 18min.
It was pretty clear the minutes for our forwards were heavily influenced by match-ups.

I think Helm was our strongest player out there, and Glendening not far behind him, so I don't mind their ice time, although some of that elevation is due to all the penalties the Wings had to kill. Tatar and Nyquist aren't on the PK unit so that's what, 10 minutes or so of ice time they are ineligible for?
When Abdelkader comes back I think we will see a lot more options become available from a lineup point of view. Babcock will also have the advantage of icing his squad last when the series shifts to Detroit so Tatar and Nyquist can match up against Tampa's third line. But really, I just want to see them (and everyone else) play harder and smarter.

In Topic: Post-GDT ECQF Game 1: Red Wings 3, Lightning 2 (DET leads, 1-0)

16 April 2015 - 09:49 PM


I'm actually not sure about that. Tampa is a very fast team. I doubt we can match that, at least not with all four lines, so positional play might be our only option. I wondered the whole game if the many shots by Tampa were indeed part of the gameplan. I saw our guys mostly covering the slot and the crease. Most of Tampas shots were weak shots from the boards or unscreened from the blueline. If that was the gameplan Babs has balls of titanium. It went well in the end, but yeah, that kind of style won't get us far in the series.


They are fast, but I'm not looking to win a footrace out there.  Mostly I want our guys to be aware of where Tampa is operating in our zone, which I didn't see tonight.  What I saw was a lot of watching the puck, and forgetting about alot the areas where the puck wasn't.  All of a sudden Tampa has an unstoppable cycle and is capable of collecting their rebounds at will, and every now and then, certainly too much for my liking, they were able to slip into the slot for a nice scoring chance.  I don't think the lack of defensive pressure from our end comes from us being slower.  I think it comes from the Wings reacting to the play instead of actively participating in it.

But you're right, the Wings were collapsing into the slot a lot tonight, and how they performed is not a recipe for success down the road.

In Topic: Post-GDT ECQF Game 1: Red Wings 3, Lightning 2 (DET leads, 1-0)

16 April 2015 - 09:38 PM

I have to say I thought Sheahan was one of our worst players tonight. I hope he steps it up, he's too good not to.


I almost posted this in my earlier response to this thread but decided not to, but yes I agree 100%.  Sheahan was one of the worst skaters out there.

In Topic: Post-GDT ECQF Game 1: Red Wings 3, Lightning 2 (DET leads, 1-0)

16 April 2015 - 09:26 PM

Good to scrape by with the win.  Mrazek was a wall out there.


I will say the Wings need to do a much better job getting involved in the play and not just watching the puck.  I can't believe how many times I saw our guys standing around while Tampa was skating, cycling, attacking, etc.  I understand playing positional hockey defensively and trying to protect the slot, but this was atrocious defensive hockey.  So many of their scoring chances came because of blown coverage, due to one of our guys not realizing someone was sneaking in behind him.  All they have to do is keep their head on a swivel and be aware out there.  Do that one thing and I think this game looks much different.

Aside from that, I'm sure everyone saw the lack of hustle, desire to engage or win puck battles along the boards, and so on, so I won't beat that one to death.  Helm had a solid game.  Glendening had a mostly solid game, but lost his man at one point defensively which lead to a glorious scoring opportunity for the Lightning.  In fact it may have been their second goal, but I can't remember for sure.  Datsyuk had two goals, but I don't think he played well aside from those shifts.  All in all it was such an ugly game from almost the entire roster.

In Topic: ECQF Game 1 GDT : Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:30 EST

16 April 2015 - 11:36 AM

To think the Wings had two capable heavy forwards in Abdelkader and Cole to anchor the top six, and here we are starting Game 1 with neither. Oh well. Hopefully Abby isn't out too long.