Honestly, I didn't even believe homer scored 30 goals when I witnessed it happening...
Kinda crazy how effective he was on a top line, granted it was with z and pasha in their primes, but still.
Kinda crazy that tank on skates scored that much.
I mean, he was an awful skater, terrible shot, no offensive or defensive prowess, but oh my god his skill at the top of the crease. He's deflected in goals mid fall from a cross check to the back. He's deflected in goals while flat on his back. He's deflected in goals off his back. He's has goals called.... back.... not to mention one of his most under appreciated skills was just being in the right place for the shot or the rebound. I don't play in a competitive league by any means, but I can appreciate how tough it is just to position yourself on the right side of the defenseman, so the pucks bounce your way and all of a sudden you're the one boxing the defender out, and the puck is coming off your stick. He was phenomenal at this aspect, and for all the praise he gets for deflections and screening and just creating chaos, I think this aspect of his game deserved more attention than it got. Homer is a legend
You must claim to be some kind of fan of both Osgood and Fedorov, maybe more Osgood since you voted for him. You didn't spell either name correctly. When your misspellings are pointed out, you don't have enough time to go edit the post and correct it. You do have enough time to reply to my post and tell me that you don't have enough time to edit. You're a confusing human.
This whole thread is classic number 9. He knows exactly what he's saying. The best part is that an actual debate broke out from this thread.
I think you're overestimating Bowman's influence and underestimating the strength of the Blackhawks' roster. Bowman didn't join Chicago's office until after they had acquired Toews, Kane, Keith, and developed a solid supporting cast to help out these generational talents. I'm sure when his son wants his advice on something, Scotty is happy to help him out, but I hardly think that the Blackhawks' success is a result of Scotty Bowman's mastermind. I think a more accurate scenario is that he's just going along for the ride.
Yzerman also inherited some franchise pieces in Stamkos and Hedman. And if we're looking for reasons why the Blackhawks and Tampa made it to the finals and the Wings didn't, I think the first place you have to look is at the core of these teams. As I alluded to, Yzerman's core is in their prime and wouldn't be possible without having those high draft picks. Chicago's core is in their prime and wouldn't be possible without having high draft picks. The Wings' core is aging, and is entirely a product of later picks in the draft. The supporting cast is there for the Wings, but the core isn't what it used to be. Bringing Yzerman or Bowman or Nill back to Detroit won't change that scenario. They aren't going to magically bring in players of Toews' and Hedman's calibre, not without the Wings suffering an epic collapse for a few years in a row. After all, that's how Chicago and Tampa Bay got their elite talent.
I don't know , somehow I got a feeling cause it was Nill and he and holland are good friends, he somehow convinced holland to get more than he should of ... I Just don't like giving up good assets for guys who have brought nothing to help the team ... Anyways it's over now and I hope he thinks twice before trading mantha or someone else of value before he makes a deal
Man that list of guys you named that's what I'm talking about ... seeing that list ... Just brutal
As for kessel I'm not really worried about him , just hope and think we won't give up on mantha just yet , we got a ton of good kids upfront , we need to draft d's this year ... If we have 6picks I'd say 4-5 gotta be d's
In fairness to Holland this conversation would likely be going quite differently if he didn't get a season ending injury. Cole was exactly the type of player the Wings needed going into the playoffs.
These threads pop up periodically, regarding either Fedorov, or Osgood, or Zetterberg, or whomever, and I always say the same thing: if there's enough hesitancy among part of the fan-base that a debate is even warranted, then the player in question probably shouldn't get their jersey retired. I can't speak for the legends from before my time, but as far as Yzerman and Lidstrom go, both cases were overwhelmingly unanimous.
Nothing says "successful location" like having to win Cups constantly in order to hold more than a few thousand fans' interest. A good location should be pulling in at least a decent amount even when the team struggles. Yes, attendance and sales go down when teams suck, but the "real" franchises still get someone to show up.
While I agree its probably time to give up on Phoenix, or Arizona, or whatever, I do think its worth mentioning that it wasn't all that long ago that Mike Illitch had to give away cars to get people into seats at Joe Louis arena.
The list of your hockey crushes is long and varied. Perhaps one day you should rank order them. Take heed, I'll be truly disappointed if ANY of your crushes wasn't a committed two way player. Just because you like their "flow" doesn't mean you're allowed to sacrifice defensive awareness.
If they have sick flow, rest assured the back end is well covered.
I don't think you can call him enigmatic after 2 seasons. He's had 1 good year and 1 bad, that's all there is to it. With Blashill coming in he'll be used properly (scoring role, not checking). So I expect a better year from him.
I agree that its too soon to throw the kid under a bus, but I'm not too sure he'll be utilized any differently than Babcock used him. Even if Blashill gives Jurco the benefit of the doubt, he still needs to outperform someone else above him on the depth chart, and right now its pretty crowded. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Tatar, and Nyquist are likely not moving from the top six. Abdelkader has proven his worth on a scoring line and has bought his ticket to stay there. That leaves one opening on the top six that Jurco will be competing with Helm, Sheahan, Weiss, Pulkkinen, Franzen (if he returns), and anyone that Holland may pick up in the off-season. Heck, I just listed enough players that Jurco would have to compete for a third line spot as well. I'm not saying its impossible, but I also don't believe Blashill is the type of person to give Jurco the spot because of familiarity and/or success in Grand Rapids. If Jurco is going to play alongside the likes of Zetterberg or Tatar, he's going to have to prove he's a better option than the alternatives. Then again, Blash might really spread things out and we could see a potential third line with one of Tatar or Nyquist on it, which may also open things up a little more. Its tough to predict because nobody knows how Blashill will set the team up just yet. But my guess is that we see Jurco on the third line to start the season, likely with third-line caliber players. Where he goes from there is entirely up to him.