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#2685111 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by Echolalia on Yesterday, 05:34 PM

And i would take Nielson over Datsyuk at this point.


#2684702 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 11 August 2016 - 10:02 PM

Right. A few decades from now, I don't think anyone's going to talk about how we got eliminated in the first round, if the record is broken they will talk about how we broke the record AND won 4 Stanley cups during the streak. It's all about how history is written, and nobody is going to write "the red wings were eliminated first round 5 years in a row just to preserve a streak, FIRE HOLLAND" 
 
I presume the hockey books/ web pages will have something along the lines of "An impressive 30 years in a row playoff streak broken by the Red Wings in 2020. During their run they managed to win 4 stanley cups and sported legends such as Yzerman, Lidstrom, Fedorov, Hasek etc etc etc" 
 
Streak is nothing to look down upon at all. 
 
That's not to say Holland hasn't made questionable moves this summer but of course that's been discussed ad nauseam. 

Agree with everything except the four Stanley cups ;)


#2684699 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 11 August 2016 - 09:15 PM

The second the streak and the Wings miss the playoffs is the second their goal changes from making a deep run and shot at the cup to making the playoffs.


#2684651 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 10 August 2016 - 06:16 PM

Tatar, Nyquist, Larkin, Zetterberg, Mrazek and Nielsen are all on the top 200 list that he linked. It's just that no one is top 50 like Zet and Pav used to be I think. 

This is just more evidence that we are lacking a franchise guy at this point. There's 30 teams so you figure if you can meet the even distribution of 6-7 players in the top 200 you're in decent shape, but our handful of players are all in the bottom 75% of that list of 200. We should have at least one guy in the top 50, but we aren't represented there. Granted this is just fantasy value right (I haven't actually looked at the link) so it's not like this is irrefutable evidence, but I think it supports the context of what a lot of us have been saying- the Wings are lacking top tier talent.


#2684582 Fox Sports DET to stream DRW games online

Posted by Echolalia on 09 August 2016 - 08:53 AM

That is not accurate. Check out Reddit. Their feeds are tv quality.


Theyre ok until the framerate intermittently drops, or more frustrating, until they randomly get taken down midway through the game, or just before it starts.


#2684545 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 08 August 2016 - 12:32 PM

Sometimes I wonder if a fourth line as a designated shut down line is an antiquated aspect of hockey that's only practiced because the coaches from the last generation did it, so it must be the way to go. I would like to see four possession-based lines and see where that takes us.


#2684447 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 05 August 2016 - 06:28 PM

Frankly Franzen is exactly what the team needs right now. We would be so lucky if Mantha pans out into at least that type of player.


#2684389 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 03 August 2016 - 04:11 PM

You're all crazy. I'm overpaid.


#2684322 Fox Sports DET to stream DRW games online

Posted by Echolalia on 01 August 2016 - 08:28 PM

IP reroute perhaps?

 

I mean there are options, such as proxies and whatnot.  They just aren't kosher.  But more to the point, I think that here in 2016 convenient and legal options for folks to watch games regardless of whether they're in Texas, Australia, or Michigan should be available and independent of a cable or satellite subscription.




#2684138 Red Wings All-Bust Roster

Posted by Echolalia on 28 July 2016 - 03:42 PM

I was at the Anaheim game where Brunner put in the game winner. It was the same game "You got Kronwalled" was born as well as "Todd Bertuzzi"
Easily the best game of hockey I've been to.


#2683920 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by Echolalia on 26 July 2016 - 09:01 AM

goddam holland signing everyone to long term contracts but we like our team amirite??

 

jk I like it.  Dekeyser's a solid player.




#2683659 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 22 July 2016 - 05:39 PM

We need Helm. His contract is a bit high but let's not judge the player based on his salary cap over his on-ice contributions. Particularly if this season he's utilized on the PK and for his speed and chaos, and not as a playmaker or goal scorer.


#2683643 Fans rank front offices....Wings 21st

Posted by Echolalia on 22 July 2016 - 01:35 PM

Lol this article is meaningless. Let's ask a very small sample size some questions about every team, most of which they're inequipped to answer, and then draw conclusions from this data. How does this s*** get published? I'm done with this thread lol


#2683579 Fans rank front offices....Wings 21st

Posted by Echolalia on 21 July 2016 - 12:55 PM

The biggest issue I think is our lack of franchise players. Datsyuk is done. Kronwall and Zetterberg are shells of their former selves and should probably be solid complimentary pieces at his stage in their careers instead of heavy lifters. We have potentially Larkin and potentially Mrazek coming in to fill big roles, but even with their early promise they're both still big "IFs" and it still puts us down one franchise defensman and one franchise forward. Those types don't make it to free agency. They're very rarely traded. And unless you have a top 3 overall pick they're tough to pluck out of the sea of mediocrity that is the draft. Statistically our best bet is unfortunately probably to hope for finding a star in the draft. Who was the last franchise guy to make it to free agency? Praise and Suter? And even when that rare moment happened you're still competing with a handful of other teams for these type of players. Trading a franchise guy has become less common since parity redistributed the odds of success in the league. Why should a bottom-feeder drop their 1st line center for prospects and picks if they're only 4 points out of a playoffs spot in February? How often does that happen these days? Subban was traded. But he was traded for Weber.
I mean if I was GM I'm not sure my main strategy would be much different from Holland's. I wouldn't necessarily be locking up all this bottom-six talent, but I think my main focus for landing a franchise player would continue to be in the draft, and just keep vigilant on those rare moments if and when a big fish becomes available in the league.


#2683577 Fans rank front offices....Wings 21st

Posted by Echolalia on 21 July 2016 - 12:40 PM

Agreed with the bold but we've been progressively getting worse and locking much of the same roster. Which is why I'm not surprised at the rating. Even the most level headed fans are wondering why certain things are going on. You know it's true too. 

We like our team. 


I mean I agree. I'm not happy with where they're at and thing more needs to be done to bring in players we lack. But I feel like naming more than nine teams in worse shape than us isn't remotely far fetched. And I also hate the "we're happy to make the first round and call it a year" argument. Especially if it's followed by some form of "Wings just need to miss the playoffs that will fix everything", (which admittedly didn't happen in this thread, but has def been occurring more frequently than it should and I'm generally in a bad mood right now anyway so I'm going to ***** about whatever I want).