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#2546165 11/2 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Sabres 3 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 02 November 2014 - 06:36 PM

Hey guys whens the Wings' game start?

#2546086 11/2 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Sabres 3 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 02 November 2014 - 05:26 PM


#2545894 10/31 GDT : Los Angeles Kings (2) at Red Wings (5), 7:30 EST

Posted by Echolalia on 31 October 2014 - 09:21 PM

6-2-2 for a month that we were suppose to be very bad in


With the Wings its never the elite opponents I worry about.   Its the Florida Panthers of the NHL that usually do us in.

#2545742 10/31 GDT : Los Angeles Kings (2) at Red Wings (5), 7:30 EST

Posted by Echolalia on 31 October 2014 - 07:00 PM

Does that second one count as a bad-pass goal?

#2545678 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by Echolalia on 31 October 2014 - 10:57 AM

It's funny how whenever a player is about to come off IR and force Holland into some potentially tough roster decisions, another one conveniently gets injured.

#2545468 10/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 @ Capitals 2

Posted by Echolalia on 29 October 2014 - 09:32 PM

Jurco and Nesty have100X more energy than Franzen and actually have the other team turning around to watch them scrambling all over the ice.  Franzen one dimensional and ALL teams know his inconsistencies... I am not denying the fact that before his well expected injury, he was playing good. I did praise him by saying one game "Who is this Franzen guy and what did he do with my Francine..." but that doesn't mean that he is going to bring anything more to the table that he doesn't normally bring.  I guess I should have used the term IMO, he is replaceable. I happen to think that the chemistry that Jurco brings to this team with Tatar and Sheahan, is better than throwing Franzen in there to float around and put up 5 points in 4 games every couple of months...then get injured again.  The team is cruising along no worse now than what it was with him in the lineup, and its not like he is going to return and put up 40 goals this season, he is not a difference maker. That is the tell-tale right there.

When Jurco and Nestrasil have a season where they put up more points than Franzen (or even close to what Franzen puts up) come back and we'll talk.

#2545324 10/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 @ Capitals 2

Posted by Echolalia on 29 October 2014 - 08:36 PM

Don't look now but Abby has 7 points so far this year, playing on the top line, and not all of them are a result of Datsyuk banking a shot off of him.

#2545025 Wings great Gordie Howe resting after 'serious stroke'

Posted by Echolalia on 29 October 2014 - 05:57 PM

Sorry but this is just sad and cruel don't you think his sons, daughters would love seeing him around a few more years ? I cringe everytime thinking about how hard that must be for family members, I could never stomach witnessing the maybe last days in someones life thats just .. ..horrible
his son is a doctor he should do everything he can to extend his life

There's only so much medicine can do. In the case of a stroke, the brain tissue that is affected is literally dead already. Even for a younger person with access to the best medical care, teaching the surviving portion of the brain to literally relearn all those lost motor skills is a long and tough process. Add that to the fact that Howe also has been battling dementia for the past few years, and he's already quite old, and the odds aren't looking too great. I wish the guy the best, as well as his family, but unfortunately sometimes the best means a comfortable passing, surrounded by your loved ones. Obviously I hope that isn't the case and he rebounds from this.

#2545012 Chara out 4-6 weeks with knee injury

Posted by Echolalia on 29 October 2014 - 05:26 PM

My point is they've already asked for mantha, nyquist, and Larkin. They can't ask for more than that really unless they asked for this year's first as well but no team would give up that much no matter how desperate

Yeah I didn't get that point on first read through, sorry. The fact that Myers hasn't been moved yet I think is indicative that Buffalo has been overvaluing him in a trade. The problem is with how bad they're crashing right now, Myers' stock certainly isn't rising.

#2545003 Chara out 4-6 weeks with knee injury

Posted by Echolalia on 29 October 2014 - 04:45 PM

I've said this before. What more could they ask for?

They can ask for all they want, but it's clear Holland (rightfully) isn't willing to part with our top young players/prospects.

#2544863 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by Echolalia on 28 October 2014 - 05:18 PM

This is good. Many of us suspected his biggest problem is getting comfortable with the system and back up to NHL game speed after not playing for the better part of two years. The AHL gives him this opportunity without compromising the Wings' chances of winning each night.

Edit: anything following "From what I gather..." coming from St. James I take as meaning "I'm completely guessing here but don't want to come off as uninformed..."

#2544752 Rating the Defense through 6 games

Posted by Echolalia on 27 October 2014 - 03:18 PM

Krsmith its hard to be wrong when you're advocating for change in a powerplay that's currently sitting at 6.7%.  I've been a big supporter in Smith seeing some powerplay time, but after giving it some more thought I wonder if we're overestimating his ability.  I'm going just off memory so I may be way off-base, but it seems like most of Smith's offensive chances are generated on stepping into a play where a turnover occurs and leads to the opposition being out of position, or if the other team's defense over-commits to one side of the ice and Smith steps into the soft space at the opposite faceoff circle.  Smith is a very opportunistic player.  Those opportunities don't pop up on a powerplay, because the shorthanded team is obviously playing conservatively.  Having said that, I'm still eager to give the kid a real chance at the powerplay, because he clearly has an offensive mind, even if it doesn't necessarily show in his statistics.

Quite frankly, what we need is someone who can score from the blueline.  Other teams know after Kronwall, the chances of our defenders putting one in the back of the net is slim.  You can see how their penalty kill is set up, with a lot more pressure down low, while our defenders have the time and space for a one-timer, but other teams are fine with that risk.  Adding a howitzer from the point keeps the pk more spread out and opens up more space down low, because now the opposition has to respect our D.  This, I don't think Smith will do (or anyone on our team, save Kronwall, for that matter).  Maybe there's someone in the pipeline that can fill this void, but until then, the Wings need to get more creative.

#2543389 10/21 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Canadiens 2 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 22 October 2014 - 11:44 AM

Granato ran Pittsburgh's powerplay last year and they were tied for first with Washington with 23.4%. Maybe he should coach both the PP and PK and have whoever's running the PP now go fetch him coffee.

I thought he was in charge of PP

#2543383 10/21 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Canadiens 2 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 22 October 2014 - 10:21 AM


All I can figure is that zone entries are a problem. They were an issue last season as well. That plus the insane fact that there is only one right-handed shot on the team and his name sure as hell isn't Alexander Ovechkin.  


This, and I'm surprised that zone entries are an issue with this team, and I disagree with the way that our coaches are trying to establish the offensive zone on the power play. 


The past decade or so, the Wings' identity has been all about meticulous puck possession, and precision-passing, and being very patient with the puck and waiting for a hole to briefly open up somewhere and exploit it.  We had the personnel to thread the needle on every play, and the intelligence to position ourselves one step ahead of the opposition.  That's how the Wings dominated the previous decade.  The past few years, while our roster has been largely the same, some key players retired, others got older and more broken-down, and all of a sudden the "well-oiled-machine" that was the Red Wings wasn't functioning like we expect it to.  Thankfully the kids came in last year and the team was able to keep the playoff streak alive, but wait, these kids are a whole different breed of hockey player than we're used to.  They're all fast and aggressive, and force the tempo of the game up on opposition.  This year the Wings look very different, and its not just the roster.  Its the way the team is approaching the game.  Instead of relying on precision passing, and superior hockey IQ, and patience, this team is playing hard and fast (like Brannigan's love), quick on the forecheck, quick on the backcheck, playing what can almost equate to an offensive swarm.  Even the defense have been getting involved, forcing the play at both blue-lines, and carrying the puck up more, instead of playing more passive and patient.  It has been awesome to watch at even-strength, and even if the Wings don't necessarily have the goals to show for their work, they certainly have created chances, power play opportunities, and limited the opposition from properly setting up their game plan.

So WHY is it that our team is still holding onto this "patience, and precision-passing and higher hockey IQ" identity on the powerplay?  I could understand it for a line that had Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Franzen, because they can still play that way.  But Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Helm (if he gets another crack at the PP), Smith (if he ever gets a crack at the PP), Dekeyser.  These kids are about speed.  Let's play to their strength and attack the neutral zone on the power play with speed and numbers.  If we have to chip the puck deep, lets continue to swarm the play and choke off the opposition.  They haven't been doing that.  They've been playing the patient game that isn't best suited for their skill-set.  And I think if the coaching staff gave them the green-light, we would see more zones established, more scoring chances, and more goals on the power play, at least from their line.  I'm willing to keep the old identity for the first power play line now that Datsyuk is back in the mold, but if line one is a change-up, line two needs to be a fastball.

#2543100 10/21 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Canadiens 2 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 21 October 2014 - 08:32 PM

Howard's bad pass save % is pretty good tonight