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#2682299 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by Echolalia on 05 July 2016 - 04:36 PM

Don't be mad brah Holland forgives you

#2681960 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by Echolalia on 02 July 2016 - 01:39 PM

What a joke of signing Kenny needs to go freaking idiot why are we signing D's retreads that's why we will never win anything what about Jimmy's contract no one is gonna take that abomination

You must be a man or postmenopausal because you are...

...missing some periods


#2681956 Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

Posted by Echolalia on 02 July 2016 - 01:35 PM

beats me, Bond. After all the hype from trading Datsyuk's contract, I want off this ride.

No one is keeping you on it. I'm sure Toronto fans would love to have your shining personality join their forum.

#2680929 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by Echolalia on 01 July 2016 - 09:41 AM

I'm actually happy Helm is back.  I'm not thrilled about the money, but it was necessary to keep him.  I can see that most of you didn't want him back, especially at that price, but the truth is, if we lose Helm we're going to be a slower team.  I think our options were to either sign Helm at 3.85 or sign a different player, who is slower or has similar production for $4 mil or more.  Different doesn't mean better.  Sometimes better means trying something different.  Carl Hagelin, who I feel is a similar player to Helm, had numbers similar to Helm before he was put on a good line with Bonino and Kessel.  Helm could very well be the same way.  Put him on a line with AA or Larkin and Tatar or trade for Nash or sign Vanek and that line could produce big numbers.

I think an AA Larkin Helm line could be a lot of fun to watch and should be pretty balanced as well

#2680923 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by Echolalia on 01 July 2016 - 09:39 AM

I guess I'm the only one who's glad he's staying. Price is a bit too high but realistically he was always going to get paid somewhere in the 3-4M range, so I don't think it's even so much of an overpayment, certainly not enough to get bent out of shape about and think it's the end of the world, especially cuz the Wings have 100 billion dollars to work with atm now that Stamkos isn't in the plans.

#2680512 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by Echolalia on 30 June 2016 - 08:36 AM

Weber is a thug. I'd rather have Subban.

#2680366 Stamkos to... Tampa

Posted by Echolalia on 29 June 2016 - 06:20 PM

holland needs a new job. hes been a joke since he couldnt close the suter parise deal.


what has he done since our last cup?


stephan weiss...bust

mike modano..bust

daniel alfredsson...bust

david legwand..bust

erik cole...bust


bard richards...bust

keeping cleary...bust


sammy 2nd time...bust


yes lets go get a washed up eric staal now pay him 6 mil


You really seemed to like most of these signings when they happened.  Most of us did.  Hindsight makes things much clearer though, especially in the case of freak injuries like in the case of Weiss, Modano, and Cole.  Frankly, the Wings have had some awful luck with bringing guys in.  

#2679976 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by Echolalia on 28 June 2016 - 07:35 PM

it's also a valid point for him wanting to play the last years of his career in his homeland, in front of his people and close to his loved ones.

As long as his loved ones are within a 90 minute radius

#2679664 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 27 June 2016 - 12:58 PM

I've never been to Buffalo and I'm super biased but Detroit has to be one of the most underrated cities right now.

#2679202 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Echolalia on 24 June 2016 - 08:55 PM

Jesus Holland next time at least use lube.

#2678809 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 24 June 2016 - 10:25 AM

Does Filppula or Hudler provide something that our younger, cheaper guys already in the system don't?  I'd rather utilize our resources in acquiring something we lack ie a franchise forward, top pairing defensman, established goal scorer etc

#2678728 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 23 June 2016 - 11:48 AM

what to stop chris chelios from having an i heart chris chelios pillow on his bed


edit: beat me to it.


and it wasn't even close lol

#2678705 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 23 June 2016 - 09:12 AM


Common sense should normally tell you that these numbers must be wrong. If you're, despite ridiculous numbers, several links provided by another user and and my explanations still convinced that they're right then it's on you to explain why a player has good numbers and why another one doesn't. First you criticize me for not knowing how they track it even though I clearly wrote that and why those numbers are wrong. After it came out that there really is no definition for a take- or giveaway you make it very easy for yourself by just saying that it's not on you to prove that the numbers are right. So you criticize me for saying that they're wrong but refuse to tell me why they're right? You're a joke. Really ridiculous. But good on you for not abusing those numbers to spread lies like others about Tatar or Helm being that good, never losing pucks and so on...I'm sick of it.

I'm not arguing that they're right or wrong.  That has absolutely nothing to do with my point at all and confirms my suspicion you don't know what I'm talking about.  My problem is that you make definitive statements based on nothing and pass them off as fact.  You're the one who said Tatar is a turnover machine, and when people questioned you on it your defense was exclusively and repeatedly eyeball test, which means absolutely nothing.

#2678699 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 23 June 2016 - 08:24 AM

We can tell? Who is we? You and your ego? You seem to be a bit bipolar...
Just because they tell you what you dream about in your fantasyworld, take- and giveaway statistics are 100% true and waterproof and you ignore every fact that tells you the opposite.
You keep telling people that what they see with their own eyes is completely wrong but at the same time have no proof for your weird fantasies other than stats who obviously couldn't be more wrong.
I'm also still waiting for some other user with similar problems theory why Stone is such a takeaway monster, dominated the league in that regard over two years and is, together with Datsyuk, by far the best takeaway player ever in NHL history. You, Echolalia, indicated that my theory of those stats being randomly counted is absolutely wrong so I suspect that it should be easy for you to explain me why Stone isn't a superstar already. Cannot wait for you to tell me.

The onus isn't on me to prove why Stone isn't a superstar based on takeaways/giveaways. Doing so has nothing to do with my argument, so you even suggesting it, and then ignoring all other aspects of what I say and doubling down on it gives me the impression you aren't even fully aware of specifically what we are even taking about right now. I'm not the one passing judgement about players I cannot back up with support. That would be you.
But because you're so desperately clinging onto this Stone thing I do want to mention one point that makes me chuckle. Its yet another example of you allowing yourself to be swayed by emotion and make a conclusion based 100% off emotion (and the good ol infallible eyeball test), and anything that isn't consistent with your preconceived conclusion you automatically reject: on the grounds of emotion and eyeballs. You have no actual evidence that he isn't the best takeaway player. I doubt you've even seen him play ten games this year, let alone his whole season. And further to the point I doubt you've been specifically logging his takeaways and giveaways on the occasion that you did see him. But your emotion tells you that it's wrong and therefore everything that suggests otherwise must be wrong. I have no idea where Stone stands. But the difference between you and me is that I have the self insight to know the limitations of my views and opinions and you do not.

#2678645 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 22 June 2016 - 05:40 PM


Let's call it common sense.

Nobody does. Or do you wanna explain me why Mark Stone is by far the best takeaway player in this league and nobody ever realized it? I can't wait to read your explanation.  

If those numbers are true, Mark Stone would be an absolute star. Datsyuk's all time NHL-record for takeaways is 144 but in 82 games. 


In all fairness, Mark Stone is a good player. But these numbers are just ridiculous. 

Lets not call it common sense.  Common sense isn't assuming the eyeball test, which has been widely and repeatedly proven to be one of the least reliable forms of evidence, is a more accurate means of measuring a parameter than another method, which you have no insight to how is even measured.  That's rejecting data for intuition and/or emotion, which is the exact opposite of sensical.  Incidentally that's the same issue that's plaguing the anti-vaccine movement.  Its intuition and emotion based on preconceived notions you have with Tatar, or Helm, or Smith, or whomever else which you are relying on to make interpretations on otherwise quantifiable data, and when the data isn't congruent with your intuition, you reject the data, instead of modify your original hypothesis.  If science was run like this our society never would have accepted the sun is the center of our solar system, or that infectious disease is a manifest of microorganisms.  I have no issue with being skeptical of information presented to you, but when the purported alternative is supported exclusively by "because that's what I think" then there's a problem.