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#2317504 Ken Holland, Post-Scotty Bowman

Posted by Echolalia on 09 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

I'm really having difficulty wrapping my head around why (or how) so many posters are buying into Scotty running the show from his advisor position, and assuming Holland is actually some sort of dunce who somehow is capable of driving a team into the ground in three years.


#2315890 Where do we go from here? Let's try a youth movement

Posted by Echolalia on 05 July 2012 - 04:03 PM

Abby is quickly becoming the most under appreciated player on the team ala Ericsson. I can't say for sure but im guessing a lot of it is coming from the notion that he doesn't dominate in any traditional bottom six role, but has the skill to be effective in all of them (which folks don't seem to notice). The guy fights when he has to, but doesn't drop the gloves every other night, so the fighting slapped get pissed. He lays big hits every now and then but doesn't focus solely on destroying people, so the traditional grinders get pissed. He scores and assists goals but not every night, so the bottom-six finesse guys get pissed. He's a jack-of-all trades in the bottom six who's defensive responsibility is vastly underrated. He's very dynamic and I think that's a good skill to have. I hope he stays with the club.


#2312929 Jiri Hudler signs with Calgary, 4 years, $4m/year

Posted by Echolalia on 02 July 2012 - 02:42 PM

Suddenly the Sammy signing looks desirable!


#2312635 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by Echolalia on 02 July 2012 - 08:45 AM

I am shocked at how many people dont like this signing.
Tootoo is definitely one of the most notorious agitators in the league, and has a reputation of going over the line, but when you consider all the toughness vs skill debates our forums have had when discussing the bottom six, well here is a guy who provides the best of both worlds. Take a step back and look at what Tootoo is capable of objectively. He is an all heart player who gives it his absolute all every shift. He creates chaos, he hits, he fights, and last year he scored 30 points in 77 games. Physicality aside, those are impressive numbers for a grinder. Since the 2008 season he has also been much more level-headed, amassing 40, 61, and 92 PIM respectively. He isn't going to be a liability for us the way that many other bottom line forwards are.

This guy is everything that Detroit needs in the bottom six, and considering his blue-collar, give-it-your-all attitude, I expect it won't be long until he's a fan favorite here.

Just no whistles please...


#2312309 Still no decision from Suter. Speculation abounds.

Posted by Echolalia on 01 July 2012 - 07:09 PM

I would love to get Nash but I don't know how we are going to pry him away from the kings ransom that Columbus wants for him. Are we trading away our entire future players?


Columbus had been horribly run, but over the past year the follies have really been scrutinized at a national and public level. The pressure is really on for their management to do something, which I suspect will lower the Nash price somewhat. Regardless he will be costly to acquire.


#2312205 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by Echolalia on 01 July 2012 - 06:09 PM

Was this guy a healthy scratch for the playoffs last year? I can't remember.


#2310885 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by Echolalia on 28 June 2012 - 09:43 PM

Good god. I read the title as Wings have acquired Nash and almost fainted


#2310692 Sidney Crosby signs 12-year, $104.4M Contract, $8.7M/yr

Posted by Echolalia on 28 June 2012 - 10:46 AM

I hope then for his sake and Pittsburgh's that the concussions are just a temporary issue and not a recurring thing.


#2310188 Shane Doan to test free agency

Posted by Echolalia on 26 June 2012 - 06:55 PM

Could you imagine the hunger and intensity a team consisting of Doan, Parise, and Helm would possess? Hell I would love to see those three on a line together just to witness the chaos.


#2305987 Looking at Holland comments.

Posted by Echolalia on 08 June 2012 - 09:24 AM

For the record on figuring out who said what and which guys says we need this player etc:

Folks from the Wings' organization are legally not allowed to mention specific names when the player in question is under contract with another team. When free agency hits, then the names can fly, but until then, Holland and Babs and all the others have to be general and cryptic so not to get in trouble with the league.
Consequently all the quotes with specific names in them are likely coming from opinion columnists, bloggers, other people who are not affiliated with the Red Wings, or the NHL.


#2305788 Red Wings make contract offer to D Justin Schultz

Posted by Echolalia on 07 June 2012 - 10:56 AM

Basing that on your decades of being a pro hockey scout and coach? fact is no one knows how anyone will turn out. yes that also includes Smith. A handfull of games does not make a career. besides, who said he has to help this season? if we keep Quincey we have 6 Dman already. i do expect us to get one of the 4 top UFA D's out there. The perfect solution would be sign schultz, 1 year at GR, then he replaces White who is a UFA after this season.


I don't think that is a safe expectation to make. While Shultz is completely unproven at the NHL level, he has shown a lot of potential, and seems to have all the raw tools to be a difference maker in the NHL. That alone will be enough for some team to pursue this kid with the promise of guaranteed good minutes in the big leagues, and maybe even a leadership role in a few years. With our defensive depth and very high seasonal expectations, Neither Holland nor Babs can nor should give those same promises. Consequently, Shultz might be more inclined to go elsewhere if he suspects he'll be in Grand Rapids this year.
If this kid has high expectations of himself and thinks he can outperform Kindl, Smith, or Quincey, and earn his spot in the top six, then maybe he takes the chance and signs with us.
In any event, it's dangerous to expect him to replace White and his role in the lineup a year from now. Regardless of the amount of potential this kid has and the magnitude of hype that follows his name (not to mention how much White is looked down upon at LGW), were still talking about a kid with no experience playing in the NHL, and a guy who plays top defensive minutes on one of the most well respected and well run organizations in sports.
I'm all for throwing an offer at Shultz so long as he is aware that the Wings don't reward players for potential alone. If he wants a good contract, he has to show he deserves it. If he wants top line minutes on our team, he needs to outperform the other guys fighting for that spot. if that doesn't sound good to him, I'm sure Montreal or Toronto has some space on their roster, and they'll be happy to throw everything that Shultz wants based on his prospect scouting report.


#2305563 Darren McCarty seeks protection from former pals

Posted by Echolalia on 06 June 2012 - 08:58 AM

It was very recently that there were multiple/regular McCarty sightings in several Troy/Clawson area bars. I don't know the bartenders myself, but I have heard from a few of my buddies that they call around to each other to limit alcohol servings to McCarty when he gets out of control, to prevent going to other nearby bars once he's "hit his limit" at some other place.
Who knows if its true, but its interesting that this article should pop up so recently after hearing that.


#2303144 Who's going to make it big if anyone?

Posted by Echolalia on 25 May 2012 - 08:26 AM

I don't see any of these guys being players that can consistently lead the team and the league in performance year after year. Smith has amazing vision and offensive prowess, so much so that I think he'll be more effective in the offensive zone than Rafalski during his prime, but his defensive game and speed will keep me from labeling him as elite.
Most of these offensive prospects I see capping around where Filppulla is about now, give or take a little. They won't look out of place on a top line if they fill their potential, but I don't think any of them will be the backbone of a top line like Zetterberg or Datsyuk are.
As for Sheahan, I was under the impression the organization projected him as a career 3rd liner. Did something amazing happen overnight without my knowing?
And I honestly don't know enough of Oullet and Mzarek to give an opinion. As far as goalies go its not even worth speculating what they'll end up doing. It's impossible to tell what goalie will be a star or a dud these days.


#2301881 Standing sections in the NHL

Posted by Echolalia on 17 May 2012 - 03:52 PM

Go to a college hockey game. If anyone sees you sitting you get pummeled


#2301082 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by Echolalia on 13 May 2012 - 07:46 PM

This isn't just about being loyal to Homer, nor is it just about trying to get Lidstrom to re-sign. Parise and Suter (who came out and said the next team he plays for ideally will be his last) will be following this news if they're looking to see how they'll be treated at the end of their careers. If I'm Holland, Homer is getting a contract offer this year, because I want Parise and Suter, and any other potential long-term signing to see that we take care of our players. This is a trump card the Wings' brass has built up for years. This very well could be the year that we reap the benefits.

Homer stays.