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#2325890 Should Kronwall have to answer the bell for his hits?

Posted by Echolalia on 18 August 2012 - 07:25 PM

Sometimes. Depends on the situation. Honestly, I don't like seeing him skate away from a ***** like Kesler. He should have went with him, whether it was a clean hit or not. Makes our whole team look bad when he just skates away.


I understand where you're coming from but I disagree. I love seeing the other team squirm and lose their focus and try to get retribution when they should be focusing on the game itself. Vladdy said it best: "I don't need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals."
On the other hand, when Zetterberg gets his face slammed into the boards (or any other illegal and dangerous attack), then I expect the team to strike down with great fury. The acquisition of Tootoo should help in that regard.


#2325043 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Echolalia on 13 August 2012 - 02:34 PM

This whole "Bettman is the problem" thing is really getting out of hand. The guy is a slimeball, but let's give credit where it is due. Bettman is essentially employed by the owners of the teams in the NHL. It's his prerogative to make them happy, or he finds himself unemployed. All things considered, he has done an excellent job satisfying owners. The game has evolved and grown by leaps and bounds under his direction, and the owners overall have made great profits, despite everything the league has had going against it.
Bettman is the voice of the owners is the labor dispute. What they want is what he has to try to sell to the NHLPA and public. Bettman is not the devil whispering evils into the ears of the owners. Its actually the other way around. He's just the front man.

Edit: actually Bettman is in quite a tough pickle now that I think on it. The owners are asking for quite a lot and under the current environment are coming of as unrealistic and greedy. If Bettman can't achieve these extremely lofty and completely one-sided goals (ie owners win, players lose (again)), he may be out of a job. I'm not sure if it would come to that considering the profits that the league has earned in the past decade, but its certainly not an appealing situation to be in.


#2324712 Our current forwards.

Posted by Echolalia on 10 August 2012 - 09:39 PM

Zetterberg got slammed and no retribution.


...okay? I'm failing to see your point, if there is one.


#2324341 Our current forwards.

Posted by Echolalia on 08 August 2012 - 03:45 PM





No one will ever be Kocur or Probert, and it's foolish to compare. Tootoo is damn tough, he just isn't big. He's got the heart of a lion and he's gonna surprise alot of Wings fans this season. Mark my words.


I agree. If your definition of toughness is exclusively in the realm of Probert and Kocur, then there are only six or seven guys in the history of the NHL that can be categorized as tough.
Tootoo knows how to give and take real haymakers, throws his body around chaotically and drives into people like a freight train. On top of all of that, he is comfortable with actually playing hockey, and can be known to contribute as well.
I'm looking forward to seeing this guy play, and I agree that he will surprise a lot of Wings' fans as well.


#2323929 Our current forwards.

Posted by Echolalia on 05 August 2012 - 07:55 PM

Actually I like how our forwards look better than last year. It's defense that worries me.


#2323616 Red Wings Alumni Showdown Roster

Posted by Echolalia on 02 August 2012 - 04:07 PM

Do they show the alumni game on tv?


They damn well better show them. I think I'm more excited about the alum games than the actual Winter Classic


#2322832 Your thoughts on Sergei Fedorov

Posted by Echolalia on 29 July 2012 - 01:01 PM

Whenever talk of sending a number to the rafters pops up, I like to rely on a very simple test to determine whether a number is worthy of being retired: is there even a debate as to whether the jersey is hung? If we're debating it, then the player didn't do enough to convince me he deserves to have his number retired. Yzerman was no debate, Lidstom is no debate. Fedorov (and Osgood for that matter, but that's another topic), there are arguments on both sides and for that matter alone I would not retire his number.


#2321405 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by Echolalia on 24 July 2012 - 07:32 AM

We already have a player with a few years left in Bertuzzi, why would we want another one?


Because Doan brings the crazy to the ice and opponents think less about hockey and more about Doan when he's out there.


#2321317 ESPN's NHL Team-Prospect Rankings...more bad news

Posted by Echolalia on 23 July 2012 - 05:26 PM

Let's be honest. Nobody has any clue where any one team's prospects compare with others. One site says Wings are top 5, anothet says they're bottom five, another says middle of the pack. How do you rank something as vast and variable as "talent", or "intelligence", especially when there is absolutely no standardization. One kid comes from the CCHA, another from SEL, another from Juniors, another from AHL, and the amount of diversity that each kid faces within a league is immense as well. People try to justify their claims by "compensating" for trends in certain leagues like high scoring, or faster paced or whatever, but the truth is nobody knows what anyone will end up doing of anything. The only sure fire kids are the ones who are put immediately into the NHL, and they're never prospects.


#2320878 Another option - Wait for 2013

Posted by Echolalia on 21 July 2012 - 12:33 PM

I do not want Holland to patch up big holes with little bandages. Especially if these are bandages we can't remove once more adaquate bandages become available. You don't spend to the Cap every year just because you can. You do it only when it will make your team better, and while this year's extremely average group will become slightly above average with Semin on it, it isn't worth sacrificing the cap space if it prevents us from landing someone who can really make a difference in our line up, and make our average group a legit contender.
It would suck sitting on all this cap space, but it we can't get anyone for just a one year contract, I'd rather face the season with who we currently have.


#2319049 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by Echolalia on 13 July 2012 - 08:35 PM

Ray Shero? What has he won since their cup run? Isn't their playoff record basically the same as ours? Also, don't they get to pick the top players in the draft because they tanked for like 20 years? Lastly, didn't they just trade away a young, big scoring 2-way center for peanuts?

Lol, yeah, that Ray Shero is soooo great =D


Don't forget the albatross contract to Paul Martin the defensive savior. Actually, what Shero did there in signing an average player to an above average salary and term and give him an above average role to fill the defensive void is exactly what Holland refuses to do this year. Interestingly enough most Pens fans want Martin removed to get that cap space back. Funny that situation should make its way into this thread of all threads...


#2318507 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by Echolalia on 12 July 2012 - 08:54 AM

Sorry, but conceding another hockey season (Babs didn't think his roster last year was going to be able to compete) won't fly in this town. Not signing one of the top 5 talents in the league because "we don't like what we hear about him" is ok if your team already has a sniper or two. Well, we don't.

I understand being smart with your money, but when you straight up DON'T SPEND money you have, you are more or less throwing it away. We had $5 million in cap space last year that we didn't spend. Essentially, the Detroit Red Wings cap sat $5 million lower than the NHL cap. That makes no sense to me....


Unfortunately there are other factors that come in to play when signing someone aside from cap space and need. Does the sniper in question want a long term contract? Does he even want to play in Detroit? I don't think it's worth the risk to sign Semin or some other questionable player if they're looking for a several year contract. We're in tough shape today, but imagine how bad we would be with two Franzen-types locked up for the next five years. Is that really the solution? If he wants to play here, and is willing to play for one year, awesome. But otherwise it becomes iffy, and frankly I'd rather sit on the money and use it next year when some legit top players without all the baggage are available.
The Wings are in a unique position to for once have a lot of money to work with, but there's only scraps and garbage available to buy.



#2318494 Holland Content with Current Roster

Posted by Echolalia on 12 July 2012 - 08:29 AM

Look, Holland is being smart here. He tried his best to get both Parise and Suter, but in the end they wanted to be close to their families, which Michigan cannot provide. After those two, the free-agent pool drops off considerably. We have money and we have needs, but is it smart to utilize that money in a poor free agent market in attempt to fill your needs with average players, or would it be better to put a bandage on all the wounds for now and wait until next year when more high profile players will be free to sign wherever they like? Trades are always an option too, but when you need someone to replace Lidstrom, or some top-six sniper (in a dry free agent year no less), prices are going to be high. Holland admitted he wants at least another player before he's comfortable with the team, but it's goIng to be a bandage, not a permanent fix to our roster issues. This year can't provide us with a permanent fix. That's just the reality of it. Better luck next year.


#2317993 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by Echolalia on 10 July 2012 - 11:40 PM

Interesting that the Flyers are on that list. Howson might actually get what he thinks Nash is worth...


#2317504 Ken Holland, Post-Scotty Bowman

Posted by Echolalia on 09 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

I'm really having difficulty wrapping my head around why (or how) so many posters are buying into Scotty running the show from his advisor position, and assuming Holland is actually some sort of dunce who somehow is capable of driving a team into the ground in three years.