I would prefer Erhoff. I don't know that Niskanen can repeat his offensive success in Detroit (as we don't have a Crosby, Malkin, or Neil), and Erhoff has made a career out of producing those numbers from the back end. He's older and shoots left, but he's also a known commodity. I also think defensively Erhoff is more well rounded.
Also, Erhoff was never beaten in a fight by Crosby:
Ericsson has a no trade contract doesn't he? I'd love to see him traded along with Kindl and Franzen to try and get a forward while getting Ehrhoff and Niskanen. Not gonna happen though.
If we do end up with Erhoff and Niskanen, that's two less spots for our defensive prospect pool to take, so in addition to Kindl and Lashoff (who have pretty low trade value), Marchenko, Sproul, Ouellet all become movable assets, because there won't be any room in Detroit. Sproul I think we need to hold onto, because of his offensive capability and he shoots right, but I don't know how he would break into the lineup if Erhoff and Niskanen are here.
I don't think it's that people don't want it, it's just that you knowing your source is legit only benefits you--the rest of us don't know this cat from Adam, and this is the internet. I'd expect the same reaction if it were me, or 55fan, or haroldsnepts, etc. it's fun to hear the rumors, so don't be offended if to the rest of us that's all they are.
for the record i believe everything that 55fan has and will ever say. On a separate note, did you know that Kronwall is the descendant of a god and his favorite animal is the guinea pig?
I don't get why so many seem to think this would be a better signing than Niskanen. Erhoff turns 32 in about a week. he isn't physical at all, average defensively, and hasn't been great offensively either. yes some of that is because of playing with Buff, but overall just average. he is at the age where he is just leaving what should have been the prime years of his career.
Erhoff 32, 6-2/195 LHed, on a good team good for 35-40 points per season, going to make 5+ million and I am sure he is going to be looking for at least 4 years, maybe 5.
Niskanen 27 6-0/210 RHed, on a good team good for 40+ points, strong in his own end, and going to be looking for 6 million on a max term-7 years.
Now if we don't get Niskanen then going after erhoff makes some sense. he is an upgrade over quincy. But at this point he is clearly a second option.
The bottom line is we need a defensman who can get the puck out of our zone efficiently, has some offensive ability, and can run a powerplay. Erhoff is getting older (although I wouldn't say 32 is old these days), but he still provides the offense abilities that the Wings sorely lack. Niskanen does also, and he's younger, but he's also unproven, so I guess the question comes down to what you think the lower risk is: signing a long contract to someone who only had one successful year but younger, or signing a long contract to a proven commodity who is older. Frankly I want both of them.
Clearly Holland and co are thinking success in the future will be on the shoulders of big, strong centers who can play a 200 ft game.
After losing repeatedly to the Sharks, and being forced to the outside against Boston, I can't say I disagree with management.
All scouting reports about Larkin remind me of another phenom we got in the first round - Cory Emmerton.
Yah!! This kid has all sorts of scouts and professionals saying he's going to be an excellent player, and if history has taught me anything, it's that good scouting repots equal bad players! We should have taken the kid who all the scouts say suck. That's gonna be the next Stamkos.
stupid that Roy won ... hope Babcock comes back next year with a vengeance.
I can't argue with the fact that Roy won, considering where the Avs were this year compared to last year, but the Jack Adams has really become "the best coach not named Babcock award". It still amazes me that he has never won this trophy.
Actually I am not, look at Pulkkinen's production in the playoffs and in his first season in the AHL.
Jurco's AHL rookie season:
GP G A P
74 14 14 28
GP G A P
71 31 28 59
Pulk's scored 2x the points,in less games in his first year in the AHL. He's also a right handed shot, and a pure goal scorer.
Jurco 106 games 60 points
Pulkkinen: 73 games 60 points
But you know us trolls, nearly 4,000 posts over over 7 years and donating to keep this site running.
With over seven years experience at LGW, I'm sure you've heard that success in the minor leagues doesn't necessarily correlate to the same level of success (or any at all) in the NHL. Jurco took a while to warm up to the AHL and Pulks did quite well integrating, which explains some of the discrepancy. Jurco spent a lot of time shifting the focus of his game from a dangler to someone who plays heavy and wears down on the opposition. Pulkinen has been able to rely on his cannon, which has made for a smoother transition for him, but I'm not convinced he's going to be that kind of force in the NHL. The players are bigger, faster, and there's less time and space to get that bomb off, and I'm expecting Pulkinen's adjustment to take longer and be more difficult than Jurco's with the transition to the NHL, because Jurco has already embraced the faster, heavier style of play, and I haven't seen much of it from Pulks yet.
But who knows how things will turn out. I wasn't calling Sheahan to steal a roster spot this year and look what happened.
Howie's got 4 years left after this coming season (signed until 18-19), but I don't know. If Mrazek is as good as he could be, do you think that the Wings will be happy to have a $5 million backup goalie?
Well 14-15 season Mrazek is in Grand Rapids, and there's no way he steals number 1 from Jimmy in his first year up (15-16). I can see him taking the top spot in 16-17, though, if he's as good as we are hoping and Jimmy doesn't rebound from this average year he had. But even if Mrazek was number 1 then, there would only be three years, including that season left on Howard's contract, and at the very least Howard should still be good enough to keep the job competitive and provide leadership for Mrazek. I think Howard will be around for the duration of his contract, and Mrazek should have room to be here too, if he can prove he's as good as he thinks. I used to think it wasn't possible, but now that I have it all laid out in front of me, I think it's a pretty good situation for the Wings to be in.
If Dan Cleary SOMEHOW is given a roster spot on the Red Wings then I think all us Wings fans should go to every single pre-season game and chant CLEARY SUCKS... maybe that would send him a message to just go away already along with tell Kenny we are fed up with his loyalty.
Wings' fans have a hard enough time proving that we're a classy bunch without a disgruntled home crowd booing members of our own team at the Joe.
solid enough history between the pipes to show he can stop the puck when needed: check
significant history of injury, so Mrazek gets plenty of time to play in the NHL: check
I can dig it, although I gotta say after watching Gus play with us and seeing how often he loses sight of the puck, or how frequently it slips behind him, or how regularly he is caught out of position, I'm still baffled to this day how he puts up the numbers he has.