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#2563988 1/17 GDT : Predators 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by Echolalia on 17 January 2015 - 07:30 PM

Reminds me of NHL 15 playing the computer.


Lol it reminds me of when the computer plays me.

#2563839 1/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 16 January 2015 - 09:54 PM

All the discussion in this thread made me interested to see how the Wings stacked up exclusively against playoff teams, as well as how other playoff teams compared.  Unfortunately I couldn't find anywhere online that conveniently had all this data organized, so I went through it all myself (as such there's bound to be errors).  Anyway, the following is a tally of the number of wins and losses (I did not count OT or shootout losses as a separate category, just W and L) of all the current playoff teams against each other, and organized from best percentage to worst:

1. Canadiens 13W    9L    22GP    59.1%

2. Ducks        14W    10L    24GP    58.3%

3. Islanders    14W    10L    24GP    58.3%

4. Predators  10W    8L    18GP    55.6%

5. Lightning   10W    9L    19GP    52.6%

6. Blackhawks 11W    10L    21GP    52.4%

7. Canucks    11W    10L    21GP    52.4%

8. Penguins   11W    10L    21GP    52.4%

9. Sharks       12W    11L    23GP    52.2%

10. Rangers   11W    11L    22GP    50%

11. Red Wings 9W    10L    19GP    47.4%

12. Blues        11W    13L    24GP    45.8%

13. Capitals    8W    10L    18GP    44.4%

14. Bruins       9W    13L    22GP    40.9%

15 Kings         8W    12L    20GP    40%

16 Jets            7W    15L    22GP    31.8%


A few things stuck out to me when i was compiling this data/looking over it.  1) The Wings have not played as many games against playoff opponents as many of the other teams on this list.  Essentially that confirms what most of us already know: the second half of the Wings' schedule will be considerably tougher than the first half.  But also, many of these teams may have a smoother road to the playoffs than us.  Although its still tough to gauge opposition quality with this list, because we aren't considering specifically what teams everyone has to face, as well as the relative difficulty of the nonplayoff teams that each team has to play.

Secondly, like the overall standings in the NHL, there really isn't a whole lot separating the majority of teams here.  The Canadians, Ducks, and Islanders are pretty comfortably a +500 team, the Jets and Kings are pretty well below 500.  The Bruins are too, but as they get healthier, they've been playing much better of late, so I'm hesitant to include them with the Jets and Kings, although for the sake of unbiased statistics they technically should be included in that bottom grouping.  But the other 10 teams on that list are each within 2 games of 500.  In other words, if the outcome of just one previous game went differently for any of these teams, they would find themselves at 500, or on the opposite side of 500 than they currently are.  So parody, I guess.

Some suprises:  I guess I never really considered the Canadiens to be as good as they are, because the Wings always seemed to be in striking distance of them, and something about their playoff run last year just seemed flukey to me.  But lo and behold they're actually the best team in the league against playoff teams at this point.  I was also suprised to the the Lightning as low as they are.  They've been getting a lot of hype, and probably rightfully so, but I was expecting them to have a better record than that.

Finally, I don't have any way to quantify this because I'm too lazy, but as I was tallying up the wins and losses, it was quite apparent how streaky some teams are.  Some of those records were 5-0, 7-2, 1-8, etc before eventually levelling off around 500.  I would have a good streak of wins tallied for some team and it would get me thinking "wow this team has been killing it", then all of a sudden December hits and the team goes on an equally as crazy losing streak, or vice versa.

#2563794 1/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 16 January 2015 - 03:58 PM


I could've sworn we just went 4-2 on a road trip.  We are on a par with, or within touching distance of, every good team in the league.  We're over halfway through the season, there's only 6 points separating the top-10 teams, and we are in that grouping.  We're top-10 in points, PP, PK, Face-offs, SA and GA. 12th and 13th in GF and SF which some will no doubt see as evidence of our weakness, but still places us in the top half.  Whichever way you look at it, we're a good team.  The Toronto's and Colorado's of this world, every other team in the NHL gets to play them too, and guess what?  They haven't managed to separate themselves from us by beating up on this supposed trash that we couldn't beat.


And I'm not blaming anything on the SO, but it is a fact that some teams points totals are flattered by it, and others aren't.  We are in the latter category.


This is a good post.  The Wings are 7-3 in their last ten games, which is as hot as any team has been.  Yeah, we've lost to some teams that are below 500, and we've lost to some teams that are near the top of the league.  But we've also won a lot of those games, and those losses aren't something that's excusive to the Red Wings.  Every team has stinkers, losing streaks, loses against teams they should have beat, etc etc.  Its a long season; s*** happens.  The important thing in all of this is whether teams can tread water through adversity and not lose their footing in the standings.  Minnesota is having trouble with this.  Toronto is having trouble with this.  Detroit is in good shape right now.  We suffered a pretty nasty losing streak about a month ago, but still managed to get a lot of points from OT during that stretch.  Right now the Wings are without their number 1 and number 2 goalie.  Even so, they keep humming along, and as of this moment we're only three points out of first in our division, and Tampa has played two more games than us.

#2563576 Jimmy Howard.......All-Star!

Posted by Echolalia on 15 January 2015 - 09:55 PM

His OPMGLBICDF (opposing player's man games lost due to bacterial infection contracted during fight) is 1st league-wide. He deserves to captain an All-Star team.

#2563496 1/15 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 15 January 2015 - 09:31 PM

Pulkkinen's shot is just scary

#2563369 Could the Wings be better off trading Pav & Hank for draft picks?

Posted by Echolalia on 15 January 2015 - 04:42 PM

What would be the benefit of trading Zetterberg and Datsyuk away?  I just don't see how it would be worth it in the short term, or long term.

#2563294 Brodeur retires. Named Sr. Advisor to Blues GM

Posted by Echolalia on 14 January 2015 - 10:51 PM

Ha.  Good goalie, but those names are not in the same league.  

Or any league, for that matter

#2563173 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Echolalia on 14 January 2015 - 02:05 PM

Mrazek has a .920 save percentage and a 2.16 goals against.  Not only are those numbers solid for a #3 goalie, but they're on par with some excellent #1 goalies.  Its tough to gauge exactly where he stands because NHL.com doesn't include Mrazek or a handful of others on the list of goalies they rank statistically (presumably because of limited starts), but there are only 5 goalies listed that have a better GAA than 2.16.  The .920 save percentage is presently the same as Howard's, who is sitting at 12th in the league at that category.  Mrazek is obviously a rookie goalie, and he's going to make rookie mistakes out there, whether that's being too aggressive, too passive, poor rebound control, whatever.  But through the ten games that he's played this year, as well as the nine he played last year, Mrazek has proven to be a solid goalie that can be relied upon.  The only question now is whether he can do it as a #1 goalie, and not a backup getting the occasional start.

#2562623 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Echolalia on 12 January 2015 - 11:38 AM

Should Weber have let Cooke spear or cross-check him in the face a second time? The Wild play the Predators on Feb 26, let me know if Cooke does that to Weber again.


Weber is free to respond how he wants, but lets not pretend that fighting prevents cheap shots from happening.  On the contrary, its been demonstrated repeatedly that higher rates of fights are associated with more violent acts and injuries, not less.  I think Cooke of all players is a good example of this.  He's been fed his lunch on several occasions in fights, and yet his suspension history for dangerous and illegal shots is still as long as anybody's.

#2562617 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Echolalia on 12 January 2015 - 10:58 AM

How do you define a staged fight? Was S. Thornton v. Cooke staged? Was Getzlaf v. J. Thornton in game 6 of the WCQF staged?


IMO there needs to be more team toughness in the NHL and fewer enforcers.

It happened yesterday.


No worries, everyone.  Weber took care of that rat Cooke by fighting him, so Cooke will be on his best behavior now.

#2562460 Jimmy Howard.......All-Star!

Posted by Echolalia on 11 January 2015 - 10:51 AM

Our goalie tandem has the worst groin against average in the league.

#2562361 1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

Posted by Echolalia on 10 January 2015 - 07:50 PM

I gotta say I've been impressed with Pulkinnen defensively.   Hes still adjusting to having less time and space to work with, but he looks like he has all the tools to be a game changer in the future.

#2562123 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Echolalia on 09 January 2015 - 06:04 PM

If Kenny picks him up, I take back everything negative I've ever said about him and this team.

Realistically, I hope someone picks him up and he sticks around the league. Why did Calgary waive him? He was basically a regular on their 4th line last year. What happened?

I can tell you what didn't happen.

#2562121 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Echolalia on 09 January 2015 - 06:01 PM

A moment of silence for the fall of our protector, and for truculence everywhere.

#2562108 McGratton on waivers

Posted by Echolalia on 09 January 2015 - 05:24 PM