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#2447604 Nyquist taking things in stride, with class

Posted by Echolalia on 24 October 2013 - 09:49 AM

I'm actually starting to wonder if Babs really has any big issue with Tatar. Maybe we've been reading things wrong.


He had many turnovers last night, which Babs absolutely detests.  We've heard several times that one of the main ways he assesses how his players are performing is looking at who has the puck after they do.  Tatar definitely brings tenacity and he has an instinctive ability to put the puck in the net, but I think Babcock values defense over offense.

#2447568 10/23 GDT: Senators 6 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Echolalia on 23 October 2013 - 10:50 PM

I will say Tatar was by far the only one who showed up tn. Carried pucks in, drove to the net, got many shots on goal, forechecked hard, threw his weight around, battled and created many scoring chances. He tried his best to win this game by himself. If he doesnt earn a 2nd line spot or atleast, a full time roster spot then ive lost all faith in Babs n Kenny.


Tatar had a couple low-percentage shots like much of the rest of the team, a drive to the net from the outside with a defender breathing down his back that was impressive and resulted in a solid scoring chance, and several offensive zone turnovers, including a couple times when he was trying to deke a defender at the blueline, only to have the puck knocked off his stick. 

I don't think he played as well as he did against the Sharks, but I still think it was a better effort than his first game.  But then again, the entire team played comically poor tonight.

Babs has been alternating Tatar and Sammuelson after losses or poor performances.  I don't know that Tatar played well enough (particularly defensively; note the turnovers) to ensure he's in the lineup on Saturday, but I also think that his tenacity was well on display tonight, which is was sorely lacking from the team as a whole.  I hope to see him on the ice against the Rangers.

#2447180 Any new Helm Updates?

Posted by Echolalia on 23 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

If it devastates us this much, imagine what Helm is feeling.

A sore groin

#2447033 Nyquist taking things in stride, with class

Posted by Echolalia on 22 October 2013 - 10:14 AM

I just want to see Helm centering Tatar and Nyqvist. 

#2446945 Datsyuk in shootouts

Posted by Echolalia on 21 October 2013 - 09:36 PM

It's really effective, so why change it up? Also, it seems like if Datsyuk doesn't score it's because he missed the net. I can only think of a few instances where a save was actually made on him.

#2446631 Ouellet Debut Tonight

Posted by Echolalia on 21 October 2013 - 11:30 AM

This is a good opportunity for Smith.  He's going to be the "veteran" of that bottom-pairing.  Sometimes an increase in responsibilities can lead to growth.

Also Tatar is playing?  I hope he capitalizes on his ice time, particularly on the defensive side of the puck.  His first game was a disaster.

#2446474 Brendan Smith

Posted by Echolalia on 20 October 2013 - 11:57 AM

Because he's been in the Wings' system for several years, and has been playing in some capacity with the actual Detroit Red Wings team since 2011, its easy to forget that as of today, October 20, 2013, Smith has only 53 games of NHL experience under his belt (67 if you want to include playoffs).  That isn't a whole lot of experience in the NHL, especially when its spread out over a call-up a few years back, a lock-out shortened season last year, and the first handful of game of this season.  Ericsson was even more frustrating when he was starting his career off.  In fact, he was the LGW whipping boy up until last year when things finally clicked for him.  Kindl has been repeatedly thrown under the bus up until late last year as well, and he's been playing for the Wings either through call-ups or on a permanent roster spot since the 2009-2010 season.  If 75-95% of LGW had their way, both of these players would have been shipped out years ago for a bag of pucks.  Thankfully Holland held onto them and gave them time to properly develop and learn the details of the game.  They are both crucial components of our D-core today. 

Defensemen generally take a few years to develop, and unlike Ericsson and Kindl, Smith doesn't have the benefit of having Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Stuart nearby to clean up his mistakes and console him.  In fact, aside from Kronwall, our entire defense is pretty darn young.  Smith needs time to mature and figure out how to incorporate his strengths into this game without being a liability.  That is going to take more than 67 games in the NHL.  In fact, based on the general trajectory of defensive development and the environment that Smith is in, don't count on it clicking for him for at least another year.  For some of you who love complaining this should come as great news.  But when it does finally click for Smith, I think he has the potential to be a top 3 offensive defensman and power-play specialist ala Rafalski.

And just a side note; Smith was a first round draft pick, which by Red Wings' standards is quite rare and valuable.  With the league as competitive as it is, and with a salary-cap firmly in place, it would behoove any team to do whatever they can and be as patient as possible to see that first round pick develop into their full potential; not to trade them away at the first sign of adversity.  Fortunately it seems like the WIngs' front office is well aware of this.

PS in the 67 games that Smith has played in, he's amassed 20 points and is -6.  Those are not bad numbers.

#2445916 10/18 Griffins GDT (Banner Raising & #43's return)

Posted by Echolalia on 18 October 2013 - 05:53 PM

I'm interested in hearing how this one turns out.  If someone is watching the game or going to it, it would be cool to get a recap of how Helm looks, as well as the Wings' prospects playing in GR.

#2445729 stephen weiss

Posted by Echolalia on 17 October 2013 - 11:38 PM

Tonight was not a good night for him, but I think much of the rest of this season has been better than what most on this forum will tell you (in fact, up until maybe two games ago, I thought he consistently played better than Alfredson).  He has a good skill set and he is versatile.  He just needs to get a little more comfortable in the Winged Wheel and develop some chemistry with a couple of guys.

#2445001 Any new Helm Updates?

Posted by Echolalia on 16 October 2013 - 02:14 PM


Please, do not! I'm being selfish and i'm upset even more now. Me and the lady normally do the home-openers in GR but this year... after we bought the tickets... it had dawned on us that she had a show that night and we couldn't make it. Now not only am I not going to see that beautiful banner being raised... IM GOING TO MISS HELMERS FIRST GAME WITH THEM. The stuff you do for significant others!


Dude.  She'll be at a show... she'll never know. 

#2444782 10/15 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Echolalia on 15 October 2013 - 07:53 PM

The news about Helm made my night. I hope it works out for him!

#2444558 Favorite Red Wings Memes Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 14 October 2013 - 07:00 PM

This thread is delivering

#2444077 Favorite Red Wings Memes Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 13 October 2013 - 11:37 PM

this thread needs more Hudler

#2444000 Fight ends with on-ice seizure

Posted by Echolalia on 13 October 2013 - 03:58 PM

What an unfortunate event.  I hope the kid doesn't suffer from any long-lasting effects.

#2442906 10/9 - Chicago vs Saint Louis

Posted by Echolalia on 09 October 2013 - 08:30 PM

Not watching the game, but in other NHL news this evening...

@DarrenDreger: Living with the Hudler's seems to agree with Sean Monahan. His 3rd of the season. Flames lead 1-0.

"Living With the Hudlers" sounds like a horrible sitcom that would result in me needing brain bleach.


Someone with photoshop skills needs to photoshop Hudler's laughing face onto everyone in a Modern Family pic.