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#2572705 Jurco to GR

Posted by Echolalia on 20 February 2015 - 10:16 PM

The AHL should do well for him.  I think he could use the boost of confidence, and he's more likely to get that by being a leader and conributor in GR than he is being a passenger for the team playing on the bottom of the lineup here.

#2572507 Preferred Playoff Opponents?

Posted by Echolalia on 19 February 2015 - 04:50 PM

First Boston, then Pittsburgh, then Montreal, then the Sharks, in that order.  Lets just defeat all our demons at once on the way to the Cup.

#2572459 Next Number to be retired

Posted by Echolalia on 19 February 2015 - 10:38 AM


I don't think this is fair to say, there are always people who are going to complain and challenge any jersey being retired not named Yzerman or Lidstrom.

I'm sure there was a time when people were against Lindsey or Abel or Delvecchio's jersey being retired saying that the standard was Gordie Howe. I'm also sure that in 60 years from now people will be saying "this guy is good, but he's no legend like Datsyuk". As time goes on, perception changes.


The problem with making a decision on Zetterberg, is the guy is only 34. Wait 4-6 more years, and when the guy retires I'm sure people will change their tune.


Well to be fair Yzerman and Lidstrom are the only two jerseys that have been retired in the past 50 years.  There have been quite a few players to wear the Winged Wheel that have made quite a case for getting their number retired also.  Lots of people have made good cases for Fedorov.  Lots of people have made good cases for Osgood.  Hasek was a generational talent and won his two Cups with the Red Wings.  Chelios is considered by many to be the best American defensman in history, and he played more games for the Red Wings than any other team, winning a couple Cups in the process.  The only problem for each of these players is there is some argument against their case.  Fedorov left Detroit.  Osgood wasn't considered one of the best goalies of his generation.  Hasek's prime was with another team.  Chelios' prime was with another team.  Consequently none of their numbers are hanging in Joe Louis right now.  On just about any other team, they would be (in fact a couple of them do have their jerseys retired with other teams).

Abel, Delvecchio, etc I can't comment on because I wasn't around back then to know how they compared to others, or whether there was a community debate about their numbers retired.  Hell, management was even different back then so the criteria was likely different as well. As such I suppose I'm only making my case for the past 30 years or so.

As for Zetterberg and Datsyuk, I agree with you that they could make a definitive case for themselves over the next few years, such that nobody can bring up a decent argument against retiring their numbers.  They've both done a ton for this team and the community, and they're both leaders and generational talents.  Perhaps another Cup, or MVP, or Conn Smyth 5-on-3 penalty kill shift against Crosby will put them over the top and make the community unanimously want to see their numbers retired.  I certainly hope so, especially because that likely means another Stanley Cup for Detroit in the next five years.

#2572363 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by Echolalia on 18 February 2015 - 11:19 PM

ya know, in that Nyquist goal its pretty fun watching Crawford collide with the post and fall over after he scores.  Also, I am dumbfounded that he has been able to score on that move as often as he has.  I gotta give props to him because I was convinced that goalies were gonna catch on and keep an eye out for it (and I think they do) but Nyquist has been really good at disguising it and striking really quickly.  But goalies are gonna catch on and keep an eye out for that lol

#2572295 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by Echolalia on 18 February 2015 - 10:23 PM


And to win it on Tots's shot where he roasted Kaner isf****** amazing lolololol


*extra pats for Tots*


I laughed out loud at my screen after that.  How awesome for Tats to get the game winner using Kane's stupid move after Kane f***ed it up.

#2572097 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by Echolalia on 18 February 2015 - 09:54 PM

dude hes old he can only skate so fast hes not 25 anymore lol

You don't have to be young or even fast to show hustle ;)

#2572032 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by Echolalia on 18 February 2015 - 09:21 PM

Well don't worry all.  Now that I'm here the Wings will turn it on

#2571718 Pavel Datsyuk demos Shooter Tutor

Posted by Echolalia on 18 February 2015 - 01:50 PM

I maintain that Datsyuk has the best backhander I've ever seen.

#2571491 Does Kenny Hate Mickey?

Posted by Echolalia on 17 February 2015 - 12:34 PM

I took it as more Kenny joking around because there was such a long period with no whistles. Or maybe Mickey wanted to say chime in and something but couldn't because of the ongoing action and Kenny knew that (after all, they can see each other and their body language whereas we only have their voices to go off of). Anyway I don't think there's any animosity between them because they typically have excellent chemistry and often joke around. I want to say that Kenny and Mickey celebrated Thanksgiving or Christmas or something recently, but I might be misremembering.
I also love all that Mickey has to offer as a color commentator. He is an entertaining individual, not the cookie-cutter type of boring, safe personality that you see so often in sports. The guy is passionate, and what I love the most about him is that he comes off as a fan of the game of hockey moreso than a fan of the Red Wings. Sure he loves the Wings, and it's his job to pass out praise to our team, but he doesn't shy away from passing out praise to players or coaches from other teams, hates weak penalties regardless of who gets the power play, and hates dangerous plays and dives regardless of who's doing them. It's good to have that kind of voice on tv, I think, instead of the mindless homer who puts his team above all others regardless of the situation as well as the game of hockey itself.

#2571344 2/16 GDT : Montreal Canadiens 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by Echolalia on 16 February 2015 - 10:18 PM

Well that was a waste of an evening


Can you really say that?  The Wings lost but that was a hell of a game.  Really tightly played on both sides, not many flaws or weaknesses from either team.

#2571225 2/16 GDT : Montreal Canadiens 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by Echolalia on 16 February 2015 - 08:51 PM

I love Mraz but I sure am glad to have Jimmy back. 


is it just me or does Jimmy look like he's trying to be more active in the puck-handling department this game?

#2571197 DD starting to get the love....

Posted by Echolalia on 16 February 2015 - 07:42 PM

well, this came out today



That's some solid praise.  Dekeyser actually reminds me quite a bit of Lidstrom in that he plays the game with his brain above all else.  He's not overly physical, he doesn't have that booming shot, he's not particularly flashy in any aspect of his game.  But when he's on the ice, the puck doesn't go in the back of the net.  Dekeyser is so solid at shutting down plays, particularly for it only being his second year.  I (like most of us) have high hopes for his future.  He could definitely become a piece to build around if he continues to grow at the rate he's been going at.

#2569655 Original Six...Sorta?

Posted by Echolalia on 10 February 2015 - 05:38 PM

When I was a kid, I had a t-shirt depicting Calvin and Hobbes peeing on a Ford Truck logo.  It proves, at the very least, how the Calvin, Hobbes, and Ford hierarchy shakes out. 

Just a side note because I'm so passionate about Calvin and Hobbes, but those logos frustrate me, because they were all illegal use of Calvin and Hobbes. Watterson intentionally avoided marketing Calvin and Hobbes memoribia because he thought the whole concept was completely against the whole idea behind his comic, and Calvin and Hobbes as characters. Somebody, somehwere made the Calvin pissing logo and before long it was everywhere, with Calvin peeling on all sorts of different logos and what not. Pursuing a ceast and desist or lawsuit was difficult due to how many different companies were involved and how widespread it got. So it persisted, and Calvin peeing became an iconic image, with everyone pretty much using the image freely. Watterson got nothing for anyone using the image, and frankly he didn't want anything (or the image to even be out there in the first place).
Anyway, it has nothing to do with hockey. I'm just a diehard Calvin and Hobbes fan and saw the opportunity to vent. Carry on!

#2569483 What should we do with the Monster?

Posted by Echolalia on 09 February 2015 - 01:26 PM

I agree that it's great for Mrazek's confidence. However, I do think it's more to just wanting Howard to get a few more days of practice and conditioning in before he's thrown in again. I'm sure they'd rather him get his first start in over a month against the Jets rather than against a pretty potent Penguins team. Petr has been playing great, but make no mistake, it's still Jimmy's net.

I agree, and I would rather Jimmy start off against the Jets than the Penguins, partially to ease him in, but I also want Jimmy to have a fire lit under his ass that he's riding pine against the Penguins while some kid is between the pipes. All in all, I'm happy Mrazek is playing over Howard for the next game, win or lose.

#2567989 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Echolalia on 03 February 2015 - 11:02 AM

I mean, a second round pick is pretty much all Holland is willing to give up, so Holland is happy. Franson is a right handed defenseman so Babcock is happy. People can still satisfy their urge to yell at their TVs about a Franson/Franzen screwing up, even with Franzen on IR, so LGW is happy.

It's a win win win situation!


edit: a second round pick for Franson seems kinda low, especially if we're talking about a potential intradivisional trade.  If he goes for just a second rounder, I'll be shocked.