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#2437402 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by Echolalia on 17 September 2013 - 11:15 PM


During the playoffs, Eaves was playing excellent defense, grinding hard, and creating scoring chances. Cleary was falling down, skating slowly, and falling down more.


All of Eaves excellent playing didn't amount to much though, which is typical for a fourth liner.  Cleary, regardless of how many times he fell or how slowly he was skating, still managed to put up solid numbers in the playoffs, and as per his entire tenure with Detroit, better numbers than Eaves.

Eaves is an effective fourth liner, and I really enjoy having him on the team.  That I think everyone can agree on.

Cleary has been a less than stellar top-9 player, and I would even agree that he was a poor option for the top-six last year.

But we're still comparing a career fourth-liner to someone who has had success regardless of where he's placed in the lineup, and who he's playing against.  Even if he's doing his job poorly, Cleary still brings more upside to the team than Eaves, or any 4th liner.

#2436760 9/16 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 4 at Penguins 1

Posted by Echolalia on 15 September 2013 - 08:40 PM

Tatar playing in the same preseason lineup as Cleary. I bet we see a fire under his ass

#2436095 Cleary re-signs with Detroit, 1 year, $1.75m deal

Posted by Echolalia on 12 September 2013 - 10:42 AM

this is good, LGW seemed overdue for an implosion :P


really though, i'm not surprised at all. and will wait to be upset or not until we figure out how this roster is getting slimmed down.

I think this is the best way to go about it as a fan.  The season hasn't started yet.  No one knows what will happen throughout training camp and up to opening day, but as long as the best players are on the ice in October, and the worst/least effective three players are the ones traded/waived/whatever, then I'll be okay.  I trust that Babcock and Holland are a good judge for what will make this team the most competitive, and cuts will be made accordingly.  For what its worth, I happen to think Cleary can bring more to the Wings than a guy like Emmerton, but we will see how the cards play out.

#2435883 Rookie you're most looking forward to watching this season

Posted by Echolalia on 11 September 2013 - 04:27 PM

Tatar or Dekeyser.
Tatar because he has exceeded expectations at every level and dominated up to this point in his career, and I want to see what he's capable of in the NHL. I remember when he first joined the club and Holland's plan was to send him to the Whalers because he would get good ice time there, instead of bottom line minutes in GR. He tried out for the Griffins and blew everyone away, skipped his tenure in Plymouth and immediately earned a substantial role on the Griffins. He's been over there for a few years, but he's become a leader on and off the ice, has excellent numbers, and is still quite young.
Dekeyser because he came out of nowhere, looked much better and poised than I think anyone was expecting, and I don't know if anyone from us fans to Babcock knows exactly what the Wings have in Dekeyser. It will be interesting to see what he can do.

#2435142 Bettman getting a raise (again) 8 - 8,3 million in 2012 - 2013

Posted by Echolalia on 05 September 2013 - 02:15 PM

There seems to be some confusion over what Bettman's job actually is. He is not responsible for making the fans happy. We don't directly pay him, after all. His primary concern is keeping the owners happy. That's who signs his paychecks. Looking exclusively at that position, Bettman had done a stellar job. Under his regime the NHL has steadily increased profits, thrived under cheaper and alternative media outlets, introduced and popularized the cash cow Winter Classic, and while there had been a few lockouts, each one had resulted in more power/money being shifted from the players to the owners. The owners are as happy as they've ever been, thus Bettman is sticking around, likely with regular pay raises in the future.

#2434988 Bettman getting a raise (again) 8 - 8,3 million in 2012 - 2013

Posted by Echolalia on 04 September 2013 - 03:33 PM

Because NHL profits as a whole are steadily increasing. Bettman makes relatively little compared to other sports commissioners.

#2434648 How much do the Wings need another defenseman?

Posted by Echolalia on 01 September 2013 - 08:40 PM

I'm ready to let the next gen take over. The Wings' defense has a lot of potential, and they've been groomed for this year for a while. Lets see what they can do behind the wheel.

#2434409 State your unpopular opinion

Posted by Echolalia on 29 August 2013 - 05:40 PM

I think that George RR Martin tells a much better fantasy than JRR Tolkien.

#2433931 Breaking Bad

Posted by Echolalia on 23 August 2013 - 11:46 AM



I'm loving every second of this ride.  I wasn't expecting the throwdown between Hank and Walk to occur so quickly, but here we are.  I'm thinking that Jesse is going to team up with Hank as a redemption of sorts, and they're going to take down Walt together.


Anyway, I'm with others in saying that this is one of the best shows (along with Game of Thrones) that I have ever seen.  I get so frustrated when I meet people who haven't watched it and they're like "eh, maybe I'll watch it some day, but I'm watching X right now and don't want to start anything".  AHHHH you don't know what you are missing!

#2433109 Any new Helm Updates?

Posted by Echolalia on 12 August 2013 - 03:42 PM

I hope so bad to see Helm between Nyqvist and Tatar this year.

#2432667 Shawn Burr has passed away per Bill Roose

Posted by Echolalia on 06 August 2013 - 08:28 PM

This one is especially tough to swallow.  He was good friends with my coach back in high school, and would show up to practice every now and again and lace em up.  I was lucky to be on a line with a kid who never came to practice, so coach would put Shawn Burr on my line, and we would practice three-on-twos, and power plays and whatever else we needed to work on together.  It was so awesome to have Shawn Burr feeding me one-timers, and vice-versa.  He was such a cheerful guy, always complimenting our game and giving us tips whenever we needed it.

#2432490 So the consensus on Shanny's #14 is a no?

Posted by Echolalia on 05 August 2013 - 10:29 AM

Anytime that there is even a debate whether someone's number should be retired I feel like they shouldn't be up.

#2430444 Best Hitter on the Team

Posted by Echolalia on 16 July 2013 - 11:09 PM

I don't know about him consistently, but Ericsson absolutely demolished Bickell during the playoffs, and I doubt anybody else on the team would have been able to do that without taking a pretty serious run.  Ericsson is strong as hell. 

I just went back and watched that highlight.   I miss hockey so much right now.


#2430232 Brendan Smith signs 2-year, $2.525m contract with Red Wings

Posted by Echolalia on 15 July 2013 - 08:33 PM

Awesome! I really feel this past year wasn't indicative of the type of player he is. I'm expecting Smith to regain some of that confidence and swagger that he had in his first dozen games with the Wings. It's tough to find a balance between aggressive playmaking and being defensively responsible, but once it comes together for him and he gets a few more years under his belt, I think he'll become one of the more valuable defenseman throughout the league

#2427892 Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

Posted by Echolalia on 06 July 2013 - 01:02 AM

Seems bizarre reasoning to me, they're in a similar situation to us - 7/8 seed with some good kids coming through mixed with a few star players.  Are our chances of a cup really that much greater than the Sens?

This was my thought as well. I think there is something else going on that the public is not aware of.