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#2491494 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Echolalia on 05 March 2014 - 11:21 PM

I'm pissed about losing Jarnkrok, but I've had some time to cool down and think it through some more. The Wings absolutely need a center now that Datsyuk is going to miss three weeks, Zetterberg already shut down for the season, and Helm and Weiss now questionable going forward. Legwand was the best fit for our team that was moved, and Holland did what was necessary to land him. We can all speculate whether it was possible to acquire Legwand for less, but we ultimately will never know for sure. Maybe another team had a solid offer already on the table, or maybe Polie was playing hardball. Who knows. If Eaves, a 2nd/3rd, and Jarnkrok was a take-it-or-leave-it for Legwand, I think I would have pulled the trigger too, simply to give the Wings a fighting chance to make the playoffs.
As for Jarnkrok vs Legwand, we are losing a lot of potential, certainly. But we are getting a top 6 center man (who will be second only to Zetterberg for team scoring) with a proven record of being reliable both defensively and offensively. He's also able to help the team now (as opposed to three years from now), which is important. Jarnkrok, like all prospects, isn't a sure thing. There is no guarantee he even makes it to the NHL (especially with all the speculation that he returns to Sweden), and if he does make the NHL, there's no guarantee that he will be a top six centerman of Legwand's calibre.
It probably doesn't make it any easier for most of you to swallow, so instead I can just post what our lines could look like should we make the playoffs:
Zetterberg Datsyuk Franzen
Alfredson Legwand Nyqvist
Tatar Sheahan Jurco
Abdelkader Helm/Weiss Bertuzzi/Miller
Or any combination thereof.

Any way you want to write it up, that's an upset team.

#2490889 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Echolalia on 05 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

Legwand will be our second highest scorer (second only to Zetterberg).

#2487753 Why did Franzen get 10 min game misconduct?

Posted by Echolalia on 28 February 2014 - 09:41 AM

The refs were worried about Ottawa getting butt hurt if Franzen scored again

#2487210 2/26 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Canadiens 1 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 26 February 2014 - 10:52 PM

I know Bert scored and all, but he really looked sloppy out there.  Also it wasn't one of Lashoff's best efforts.  Smith and Quincey, however, I thought played excellently!

#2486779 2/26 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Canadiens 1 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 26 February 2014 - 10:09 AM

*stops in to say hi*

Sup guys, go Wings! ...Where'd all this confetti come from?

#2485684 John Tavares out for remainder of the season.

Posted by Echolalia on 20 February 2014 - 07:25 PM

The Islanders just got that much more unbeatable to the Red Wings.

#2485354 10 ton elephant in the room.

Posted by Echolalia on 19 February 2014 - 10:07 PM

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 2h
Bobby Ryan off to Ottawa. #RedWings had little interest in Ryan, none after lackluster performance in this year's playoffs against them.

That's wrote as fact not opinion.


Its definitely not written as fact, but if you want to interpret it as fact there's probably little any of us can do to convince you otherwise.  It was also written in July, not after the first round of the playoffs ended, and the thread link that you posted demonstrated that many of us at LGW also took the tweet by HSJ to be rumor and not a very valid one at that.  Helene St. James was attempting to fill in the blanks and its sloppy journalism (although its tough to call anything tweeted as journalism).  I don't believe she (or anyone) has published any references or quotes from Holland or any Detroit Red Wings upper management which suggests they passed on Bobby Ryan because of laziness, lackluster performance, or any of a handful of reasons we can speculate on.  When it comes to rumors like this or any type of sports journalism, sometimes its best to ignore what the author of the piece adds in, and just sift through for quotes directly from Red Wings staff or other official personnel.  I can't tell you how many times I've read an article with a certain slant on a story, only to find out that it was entirely embellished or interpreted or what-have-you by the writer of the piece, and the athletes', or coaches', or general managers' words were taken either intentionally or unintentionally out of context.  Unfortunately there's a lot of slant forming that occurs here and on other forums as well, sometimes from otherwise entirely unbiased and honest journalism, and that can snowball into serious rumors.  Anyway, that's my advice.  You're free to do with it what you want.

#2484969 10 ton elephant in the room.

Posted by Echolalia on 18 February 2014 - 11:58 PM

There's a difference between hope and crazy.

I hope we win the cup to. But facts and common sense say it's 99.9% we don't.

We are only a couple of players away from having a legit shot but holland won't make the moves necessary. We may disagree on the players but I think we all can agree on that.

Facts and common sense say the Wings have a 99.9% chance of not winning the Cup?

#2484612 10 ton elephant in the room.

Posted by Echolalia on 16 February 2014 - 09:34 PM

It's trendy to hate on Franzen. All the cool kids are doing it.

#2482421 Kris Letang Suffers Stroke

Posted by Echolalia on 07 February 2014 - 07:55 PM

I literally JUST learned about strokes in my neuro class (also concussions but that's for another thread)... Exam is on Monday!

Anyway, strokes are essentially when certain parts of the brain don't get enough blood flow and those cells which are affected die. Most people generally associate strokes with losing muscle movement/sensation on half the body and/or disruption in speech, and that usually occurs when a particular artery (called the middle cerebral artery) becomes compromised. But strokes can exhibit themselves in many different ways, depending on what part of the brain is affected.
In Letang's case, having a patent foramen ovale introduces irregular blood flow mechanics and may allow a clot to form and bypass the lungs. The article mentions dizziness as one of his symptoms which is common with strokes that occur from occlusion or hemmorhage to the vertebrobasillar artery. This artery supplies the brainstem, cerebellum and visual cortex, so it would seem that the clot that formed (assuming that's even what happened) traveled to the back of the brain/brainstem where motor coordination, vision, and a few other things are regulated, and impeded blood flow to these areas. I can't speak for Letang's case specifically, but it is common to also experience double vision, difficulty swallowing, as well as disequilibrium and vertigo for vertebrobasillar artery strokes (just in case any of you experience one in the future you know now what to look for).
The article mentioned that he would be back on the ice though, so that's certainly good news. Strokes are serious business.

#2482413 How to be a hockey player

Posted by Echolalia on 07 February 2014 - 07:12 PM

Never chirp another player's flow

#2480903 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by Echolalia on 03 February 2014 - 09:28 PM

Oh my goodness I've never seen those Kesler gifs. What a show!

#2480751 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by Echolalia on 03 February 2014 - 08:19 PM

Sheahan's line is always fun to watch

#2480422 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by Echolalia on 02 February 2014 - 04:49 PM

Sometimes its tough to watch, like the tripping call in OT this afternoon for example, but my general philosophy is: if you're playing the game in such a way that the refs are able to influence the outcome in the final minute, then you're not playing hard enough in the first 59.


If the Wings took care of business in their own zone today, the Wings would have been up by two or three goals to close the game out.  As it happened, we didn't, and the invitation to hand the game to the Capitals, or the refs was thus handed out.

#2480413 What's wrong with Pasha? (Mod warning post #57)

Posted by Echolalia on 02 February 2014 - 04:32 PM

How will you all feel if he plays in Sochi injured and comes back with a medal and a more serious injury that knocks him out of the rest of the season?


I remember Stevie Y doing this in 2002 and I ask all of you, is it worth missing a chance at the playoffs?


It would suck, but I would do the same thing in his position.  Olympics are a big deal.  Hosting them is an even bigger deal.  Representing your country as Captain is monumental, and it may very well be the last chance he gets at fighting for gold.