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#2574059 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 11:45 PM

And Brunner's.... Such a beautiful series for Wings fans. Had it all

 

I was at that game.  I've never heard the Joe so loud in my life.  I had no voice for a week.




#2574054 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 11:37 PM

Helm is so fun to watch




#2574011 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 11:17 PM

Sounds like Pavel put on his backpack with Zetterberg out. Recap of the play, please?

 

Helm had a solid forecheck on the defender behind his own net, forced the guy to throw the puck up the boards where Datsyuk was tight on some Duck there.  The Duck mishandled the puck, or tried redirecting it away from the boards, I dunno which, but either way Datsyuk picked it off, took a couple strides toward the net, used a defender as a screen and ripped a shot into the corner of the net.

 

He just scored again, too.  Someone will have to recap that play for me cuz I MISSED IT TYPING THIS




#2573956 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 10:53 PM

Following on the thread since I'm pretty drained tonight. I'm DVRing the game, but any detail on the recap is appreciated.

 

The Wings are skating pretty hard.  I feel like we've been pretty physical actually, and playing the Ducks pretty tight.  The puck is really bouncing out there, though, so there were some potentially solid scoring chances that were squandered because the puck bounced the wrong way.  Its 0-0 but the Wings for sure outplayed the Ducks in the first.

One thing I'm coming to hate about Pulkkinen: he takes a lot of low-percentage shots.  I'd rather see him hang onto the puck and try to set a play up with his team instead of shoot unscreened from 40 feet out along the wall, and essentially give the puck away.




#2573951 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 10:49 PM

I'll be here all night




#2573949 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 10:46 PM

Pretty good period

 

That's what I told my girlfriend

 

edit: because she designs fonts.




#2573944 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 10:40 PM

Hey guys I got tickets to the game RIGHT NEXT TO THE BOX!  And guess who just stepped in?? KRONWALLLLL!!




#2573921 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 10:25 PM

Given the option of Marchenko and Oulette, I'm really feeling Marchenko.


yes, though you underestimate our level of laziness ;)

 

plus sometimes it's kinda cool to follow the game through the posts

 

GOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLL!!!!!!! 




#2573909 2/23 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Ducks 4 (SO)

Posted by Echolalia on 23 February 2015 - 10:18 PM

Come on, guys. I want to feel the soft breeze of a goal on my bunghole.

 Thats one way to score




#2573640 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by Echolalia on 22 February 2015 - 09:45 PM

Fighting after a cheap-shot has exactly one purpose: to fulfill a primal sense of revenge for one's team.  It doesn't cure the injured player. It doesn't prevent a cheap shot from happening.  It doesn't discourage players from doing it again after they've already committed the cheap-shot.  In fact, it has been demonstrated repeatedly that teams with more fighting majors actually tend to have more injuries and stick infarction penalties against, which would suggest that fights actually increase the amount of cheap shots you receive, which is the complete opposite of  "keeping the opposition honest".  This has been repeatedly demonstrated on separate occasions by separate people (a few sources for the curious: http://regressing.de...-don-1442618145, http://www.pensionpl...ness-in-hockey, http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/09/30/the-edmonton-oilers-and-the-new-era-of-the-one-dimensional-fighter/).  Its also not that hard to see if you just watch a hockey game.  Ericsson fought Benn.  Benn still cheap-shotted Zetterberg.  Downey was in the lineup when Lapierre injured Lidstrom.  Lapierre didn't shy away.  In fact, he came back at Downey for more in the third period, looking to crosscheck the guy in the head.  Colton Orr was on the ice when Kadri was getting cheap-shotted, and eventually Kadri got into his first fight against Tampa Bay, despite Orr being out there with him.  To keep the flies off.  And so on, and so on.

So if you're pro-fighting, fine.  I understand that it gets the heart racing, and there's a certain primitive sense of satisfaction you get when watching someone get their face beat down after wronging one of our guys.  OK.  I get that feeling, too, so I understand where the desire to see fights comes from (and keep in mind that I'm not at all pro-fighting.  I would rather see fighting removed from the game entirely).   But what I won't do is try to justify those emotions by wrongly suggesting that fighting prevents injuries from happening or keeps the rats in line.  It just doesn't work that way.  And its especially silly to dedicate a roster spot to an enforcer based on this false notion.




#2573475 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by Echolalia on 22 February 2015 - 12:32 AM

Calvin.jpg

 

 

WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS YOUNG SIR




#2572708 NHL.com statistics

Posted by Echolalia on 20 February 2015 - 10:37 PM

If you've been to nhl.com recently (say in the past 12 hours or so) you may have noticed that they revamped their statistics page.  Today's transition is part of a three step process to change the way we look at statistics, with the NHL partnering with SAP, who apparently does some stuff with the NBA, although I'm not a fan of basketball so I can't coment on the quality.  But part of the rollout includes new types of stats, namely Corsi and Fenwick.  Although they're not Corsi and Fenwick anymore.  They're "shot attempts" and "unblocked shot attempts" which, while doesn't have that same charm, nor the nod to the folks who first implemented the use of these stats, its a much easier term for the average person to immediately understand without having to do a bit of research.

There are other features as well, such as being able to look pretty far back into the past at various stats.  The Detroit Cougars are listed on there, for example (George Hay was their leading scorer with 35 points back in 1928).  It looks like the site will also include average shot distance, zone starts, goals and assists per 20 minutes and 60 minutes, penalties taken, penalties drawn, and probably some more stuff that I don't know about.

I'm still meandering around the new interface, and checking out all the new features, but as a fan of statistics (or really any new way to look at the game), I'm pretty excited to have "offical" numbers to work with now.  We should also expect to see more new stuff roll out over the next year or so as they add features and statistics to the website.

 

PS, Wings are currently #1 in the league in Corsi against...er, shot attempts against.

 

edit: for those of you interested in more info, Puck Daddy Blog has a nice summary of what to expect in all three phases here:http://sports.yahoo....-031047083.html

do check it out, there's some pretty cool stuff planned.




#2572705 Jurco to GR

Posted by Echolalia on 20 February 2015 - 10:16 PM

The AHL should do well for him.  I think he could use the boost of confidence, and he's more likely to get that by being a leader and conributor in GR than he is being a passenger for the team playing on the bottom of the lineup here.




#2572507 Preferred Playoff Opponents?

Posted by Echolalia on 19 February 2015 - 04:50 PM

First Boston, then Pittsburgh, then Montreal, then the Sharks, in that order.  Lets just defeat all our demons at once on the way to the Cup.




#2572459 Next Number to be retired

Posted by Echolalia on 19 February 2015 - 10:38 AM

 

I don't think this is fair to say, there are always people who are going to complain and challenge any jersey being retired not named Yzerman or Lidstrom.

I'm sure there was a time when people were against Lindsey or Abel or Delvecchio's jersey being retired saying that the standard was Gordie Howe. I'm also sure that in 60 years from now people will be saying "this guy is good, but he's no legend like Datsyuk". As time goes on, perception changes.

 

The problem with making a decision on Zetterberg, is the guy is only 34. Wait 4-6 more years, and when the guy retires I'm sure people will change their tune.

 

Well to be fair Yzerman and Lidstrom are the only two jerseys that have been retired in the past 50 years.  There have been quite a few players to wear the Winged Wheel that have made quite a case for getting their number retired also.  Lots of people have made good cases for Fedorov.  Lots of people have made good cases for Osgood.  Hasek was a generational talent and won his two Cups with the Red Wings.  Chelios is considered by many to be the best American defensman in history, and he played more games for the Red Wings than any other team, winning a couple Cups in the process.  The only problem for each of these players is there is some argument against their case.  Fedorov left Detroit.  Osgood wasn't considered one of the best goalies of his generation.  Hasek's prime was with another team.  Chelios' prime was with another team.  Consequently none of their numbers are hanging in Joe Louis right now.  On just about any other team, they would be (in fact a couple of them do have their jerseys retired with other teams).

Abel, Delvecchio, etc I can't comment on because I wasn't around back then to know how they compared to others, or whether there was a community debate about their numbers retired.  Hell, management was even different back then so the criteria was likely different as well. As such I suppose I'm only making my case for the past 30 years or so.

As for Zetterberg and Datsyuk, I agree with you that they could make a definitive case for themselves over the next few years, such that nobody can bring up a decent argument against retiring their numbers.  They've both done a ton for this team and the community, and they're both leaders and generational talents.  Perhaps another Cup, or MVP, or Conn Smyth 5-on-3 penalty kill shift against Crosby will put them over the top and make the community unanimously want to see their numbers retired.  I certainly hope so, especially because that likely means another Stanley Cup for Detroit in the next five years.