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#2525171 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Echolalia on 22 June 2014 - 10:48 PM

Actually I am not, look at Pulkkinen's production in the playoffs and in his first season in the AHL.
 
Jurco's AHL rookie season:
GP G A P
74 14 14 28
 
Pulkkinen's
GP G A  P
71 31 28 59
 
Pulk's scored 2x the points,in less games in his first year in the AHL. He's also a right handed shot, and a pure goal scorer. 
 
AHL Totals:
 
Jurco 106 games 60 points
 
Pulkkinen: 73 games 60 points
 
But you know us trolls, nearly 4,000 posts over over 7 years and donating to keep this site running. 

With over seven years experience at LGW, I'm sure you've heard that success in the minor leagues doesn't necessarily correlate to the same level of success (or any at all) in the NHL. Jurco took a while to warm up to the AHL and Pulks did quite well integrating, which explains some of the discrepancy. Jurco spent a lot of time shifting the focus of his game from a dangler to someone who plays heavy and wears down on the opposition. Pulkinen has been able to rely on his cannon, which has made for a smoother transition for him, but I'm not convinced he's going to be that kind of force in the NHL. The players are bigger, faster, and there's less time and space to get that bomb off, and I'm expecting Pulkinen's adjustment to take longer and be more difficult than Jurco's with the transition to the NHL, because Jurco has already embraced the faster, heavier style of play, and I haven't seen much of it from Pulks yet.
But who knows how things will turn out. I wasn't calling Sheahan to steal a roster spot this year and look what happened.


#2525122 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Echolalia on 22 June 2014 - 11:36 AM

 
Howie's got 4 years left after this coming season (signed until 18-19), but I don't know. If Mrazek is as good as he could be, do you think that the Wings will be happy to have a $5 million backup goalie? 

Well 14-15 season Mrazek is in Grand Rapids, and there's no way he steals number 1 from Jimmy in his first year up (15-16). I can see him taking the top spot in 16-17, though, if he's as good as we are hoping and Jimmy doesn't rebound from this average year he had. But even if Mrazek was number 1 then, there would only be three years, including that season left on Howard's contract, and at the very least Howard should still be good enough to keep the job competitive and provide leadership for Mrazek. I think Howard will be around for the duration of his contract, and Mrazek should have room to be here too, if he can prove he's as good as he thinks. I used to think it wasn't possible, but now that I have it all laid out in front of me, I think it's a pretty good situation for the Wings to be in.


#2525044 Home Opener 10/9 Against Bruins

Posted by Echolalia on 21 June 2014 - 04:49 PM

Great game for the fans and the media but for the team not so much, starting with a hefty loss is never a confidence builder.

The Wings had Boston's number in the regular season; no reason they can't get back to that.




#2524655 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by Echolalia on 19 June 2014 - 05:32 PM

If Dan Cleary SOMEHOW is given a roster spot on the Red Wings then I think all us Wings fans should go to every single pre-season game and chant CLEARY SUCKS... maybe that would send him a message to just go away already along with tell Kenny we are fed up with his loyalty.

 

Wings' fans have a hard enough time proving that we're a classy bunch without a disgruntled home crowd booing members of our own team at the Joe.




#2524653 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by Echolalia on 19 June 2014 - 05:28 PM

pretty cheap cap hit: check

one year contract: check

solid enough history between the pipes to show he can stop the puck when needed: check

significant history of injury, so Mrazek gets plenty of time to play in the NHL: check

 

I can dig it, although I gotta say after watching Gus play with us and seeing how often he loses sight of the puck, or how frequently it slips behind him, or how regularly he is caught out of position, I'm still baffled to this day how he puts up the numbers he has.




#2524485 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by Echolalia on 18 June 2014 - 05:50 PM

 
Because he punches guys.  The argument goes something like this:  We should get Shawn Thornton because he's a fighter and we need that on our team.  We need it on our team because we don't have it on our team currently.  We don't currently have it on our team because we don't currently have Shawn Thornton. 
 
Hopefully that helps. 


ITS ALL SO CLEAR NOW


#2524041 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by Echolalia on 16 June 2014 - 03:10 PM

The league is running out of jobs for players like Thornton.

Edit: oh, and for the record I don't think he's what the Wings need


#2523164 Quebec City getting new arena

Posted by Echolalia on 07 June 2014 - 05:24 PM

Take Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman or some of the other former greats they are now business men AND also know/played the sport I think having someone like them as comissioner would be great. How cool would it be if Gretzky were the commissioner in hockey, Jordan in the NBA or Jose Kensacco MLB ? These are guys owners and players alongside respect.Also since 2005 hockey hasn't been as entertaining as before, that's a fact. I personally give nothing about all the money figures because i don't care as long as Detroit i- and it will as long as the best owner in all of sports is at the helm - s doing well all is fine.


Yzerman, Lemieux, etc may be working the front offices now, but they're hardly "businessmen", and they're no where near the calibre of business-savvy that Bettman is, and they never will be. They spent their lives training to play the sport, not studying the finer points of labor relations, business, law, etc from IV league schools. As a fan you're more than welcome to hate Bettman for the changes that have occurred to the game, the lockouts and so on. That is perfectly acceptable and understandable. But from a business perspective, this guy is phenomenal, and the owners of the teams (ie the guys in suits who's pockets are getting stuffed as a result of Bettman's work) resoundly agree, as he's been the recipient of nothing but extensions and raises since he first started. Yzerman and company don't have the background or the unbiased vision to do what Bettman has been doing. They wouldn't bring the type of money in that Bettman has, and consequently, the owners wouldn't hang onto these guys for very long before tossing them to the curb.


#2523163 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Echolalia on 07 June 2014 - 05:09 PM

I think 90% of people in this thread are arguing the same points to each other, but are actually in agreement with what Franzen is.
Franzen is streaky.
Franzen could be much better if he were more consistent.
It is annoying for us as fans to watch Franzen not perform at the level we expect him to perform at, especially when the Wings need him to play better.
Franzen's contract is long.
Despite his shortcomings, he's still a solid point/goal scorer over an 82 game season, given his cap hit.
It would be difficult to acquire a player with the same cap hit who could produce at a better level than Franzen over an 82 game season, at least right now.
It isn't difficult to find someone more consistent than Franzen for a similar cap hit, although they will likely not put up the point total that Franzen does.
It isn't difficult to find someone who gives it his all and tries to be a game-changer moreso than Franzen, with the same cap hit. Again, they might not have the points that Franzen has.

Did I miss anything?


#2522930 Dan Boyle's rights traded to the Islanders…..

Posted by Echolalia on 05 June 2014 - 05:43 PM

so does boyle seriously suck now or is his age just what people dont like?


0.5ppg from a defensman is exactly what the Wings need. I think age and size probably turns most people off. Actually I think any acquisition that isn't for a star or franchise player is going to disappoint a big chunk of LGW.


#2522299 TSN POY: Hertl vs Gustav Nyquist

Posted by Echolalia on 01 June 2014 - 09:55 AM

This voting contest really comes down to like 5-6 really committed fans spamming bots. So if Tatar wins, the five of you should pat yourself on the back for carrying him to victory!


#2522014 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Echolalia on 28 May 2014 - 08:12 PM

Just out of curiosity how do you measure "he plays/doesn't play defense" because the Franzen I see is better than average defensively for a winger.


Actually I'm in the same boat because I think Franzen is pretty solid as far as defense goes. He's not gonna win a Selke, but he's responsible.


#2521985 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Echolalia on 28 May 2014 - 03:28 PM

Top 6? Ok just some random numbers from the 2013/14 season. Rankings are just among forwards.
 
139th in Goals
112th is assists
335th in games played
102th in TOI/G
110th in face off win %
122nd in points
221st in hits
245th in blocked shots
289th in takeaways
 
Those are top 6 numbers for you? Ok if you take the truly generous position that there are 180 top 6 forwards in the NHL-which of course is just silly, then maybe you could find some way to say Franzen is a top 6 forward.


Why is the definition of top six forward being the top 180 players in the NHL absurd? 6 top six players per team x 30 teams = 180, thus the top 180 players in the NHL qualify as top 6 players. In that definition, Franzen fits the bill with some of the numbers you posted, 139th in goals, 112th in assists, 102nd in TOI/G, 110th in faceoff win %, 122nd in points. This point becomes a little more pronounced when you factor in his 335th in games played. 139th in goals, 112th in assists despite being 335th in games played. That puts him at 67th place in points per game, which would make Franzen a top 3 forward in the league (the top 90 players in the league), but maybe your definition of top six forward is the top 90 players in the NHL, but either way his point pace fits the bill. I don't know where he ranks league-wide for cap-hit, but considering it's less than 4M/season, I have to imagine that it's not your definition of "top six" kind of money.
I get the frustration with Franzen. He doesn't bring it every night, he floats, he's streaky. But to say he's not a top six player in the NHL? That's pushing it.


#2520081 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by Echolalia on 12 May 2014 - 09:09 AM

As good a job as Blashill has done with the Griffins, there is no evidence he will be a good NHL head coach. Look at Dallas Eakins -- everyone's darling a year ago coming out of the AHL, then had a lousy season were the Oilers appeared to regress. The assumption some have that Blashill is just gonna walk into Babcock's job a year from now and be as good a coach and we all live happily ever after strikes me as folly in the extreme. We have the best coach in hockey, by far IMO, and we should be trying to re-up him for several more years. The idea that his shelf life is coming to an end might have some validity, but all the roster turnover we have had and that is still coming would seem to mitigate that.


I agree with this. I hope Blashill is a solid head coach in the NHL, but we really have no clue whether he'll be phenomenal or a total bust until he's been behind the bench. What makes me optimistic is that several coaches who have worked alongside Babcock have gone on to have successful coaching gigs elsewhere, and Holland and co decided to retain Blashill, which may speak to his potential. He has also had amazing (and surprisingly immediate) success at the college level, and in the AHL. He already coaches a similar style to the Wings' system, as evidenced by how successful our call-ups have been. Everyone was expecting Nyqvist to shine, but probably not as brightly as he did. I wasn't expecting Jurco and certainly not Sheahan to steal spots this year, and Glendening also came out of nowhere. I think their success at the NHL level is partly due to how they were coached in the years leading up to this.
Anyway, I guess if and when the time comes that Babcock moves on from his current position, unless Trotz or Tippet are available, I would be comfortable taking a chance on Blashill. He's certainly done everything he can do to at least earn the opportunity to be a head coach.


#2519912 WCSF : (7) Minnesota vs. (5) Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by Echolalia on 09 May 2014 - 10:51 PM

Patrick Kane just got rocked open ice, Minny gets a pp immediately after and scores right away to take a 4-2 lead. This is the best kind of struggle to watch when it's the Blackhawks in question.