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#2622052 Then and Now: Tatar vs Hudler

Posted by Echolalia on 01 August 2015 - 05:47 PM

I'm confused by the title of the thread, are we comparing Hudler when he was a Wing to Tatar? Cuz last season Hudler put up like 76 points, which I would say is definitely better than anything Tatar has done in the NHL. But if we're going with just their time as a wing, I feel like Tatar is more involved in the play, more noticeable, and doesn't seem to care that he's the smallest guy on the ice, which is refreshing to see in anyone. As far as points go, they're kinda in the same area, although Tatar's sample size is only two seasons, and he could easily become a more reliable scorer than Hudler was here. So I think Tatar has/will have more of an impact here than Hudler did.

#2620064 Gustav Nyquist signed 4-Year Deal $4.75 mill AAV

Posted by Echolalia on 11 July 2015 - 12:50 AM

I don't see anyone getting moved. Holland will take the team into training camp over the roster limit, and a couple injuries will happen and then all of a sudden nobody needs to be moved. Then by the time these injured players recover, a few more go down to LTIR. It seems to happen every year.

#2619790 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by Echolalia on 09 July 2015 - 10:48 AM


I would have to try to wear #69 just to find out, but this is why I don't play pro hockey. Well that and I'm 150lbs soaking wet.


I was thinking more along the lines of the mathematical def of irrational, ie pi, square root of 2, etc

#2619481 Free agents this off season

Posted by Echolalia on 07 July 2015 - 03:52 PM

I hope he's not a 1 trick pony. He needs to be able to do more than just try and rip off his canon of a shot.

I mean, until he's actually able to rip off his canon of a shot in the NHL, I think he's technically a zero trick pony.

#2619131 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by Echolalia on 05 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive  16m
16 minutes ago

@evan_olive @georgemalik It usually speeds up process of getting deal done because both sides want to avoid unpleasant arbitration hearing.

Yeah, I think a few years back there was a conception that arbitration equals player, agent, and GM are butting heads and it's a power play, but I think I recall Holland saying its a routine process and it's for the best for all groups because it kind of encourages both sides to prioritize getting a deal done instead of putting it off. I tried looking for the exact quote but if I'm not making it all up then it was from a few years ago I think... Maybe someone else remembers this?

#2616338 Free agents this off season

Posted by Echolalia on 25 June 2015 - 10:04 PM

Article on bleacher report today about mike green is going to test the market. Come on right shot top pair d-man for cheap.

I don't know about top pair.

#2615646 REPORT: Axel Holmstrom Signs With Detroit

Posted by Echolalia on 22 June 2015 - 05:15 PM

Honestly, I didn't even believe homer scored 30 goals when I witnessed it happening...
Kinda crazy how effective he was on a top line, granted it was with z and pasha in their primes, but still.
Kinda crazy that tank on skates scored that much.

I mean, he was an awful skater, terrible shot, no offensive or defensive prowess, but oh my god his skill at the top of the crease. He's deflected in goals mid fall from a cross check to the back. He's deflected in goals while flat on his back. He's deflected in goals off his back. He's has goals called.... back.... not to mention one of his most under appreciated skills was just being in the right place for the shot or the rebound. I don't play in a competitive league by any means, but I can appreciate how tough it is just to position yourself on the right side of the defenseman, so the pucks bounce your way and all of a sudden you're the one boxing the defender out, and the puck is coming off your stick. He was phenomenal at this aspect, and for all the praise he gets for deflections and screening and just creating chaos, I think this aspect of his game deserved more attention than it got. Homer is a legend

#2615048 Which Sweater Do RWs Retire First - Feds or Ozzy?

Posted by Echolalia on 18 June 2015 - 09:14 AM

You must claim to be some kind of fan of both Osgood and Fedorov, maybe more Osgood since you voted for him. You didn't spell either name correctly. When your misspellings are pointed out, you don't have enough time to go edit the post and correct it. You do have enough time to reply to my post and tell me that you don't have enough time to edit. You're a confusing human.

This whole thread is classic number 9. He knows exactly what he's saying. The best part is that an actual debate broke out from this thread.

#2614981 Jeff Blashill named 27th head coach in Red Wings history

Posted by Echolalia on 17 June 2015 - 07:05 PM

I guess Chelios won't be behind the bench for the Wings next season. He was named assistant coach of the US National Junior Team behind head coach Ron Wilson.

This makes more sense. If chelios wants to be coach, fine, but get his feet wet in a non NHL league and let's go from there.

#2614859 The Bowman Effect

Posted by Echolalia on 16 June 2015 - 07:59 PM


All I'll say is I agree with you. I in no way want to relive the 70s and 80s.



I honestly said this to myself when I wrote that lolbut then I thought of the Panthers



#2614772 The Bowman Effect

Posted by Echolalia on 16 June 2015 - 12:44 PM

I think you're overestimating Bowman's influence and underestimating the strength of the Blackhawks' roster.  Bowman didn't join Chicago's office until after they had acquired Toews, Kane, Keith, and developed a solid supporting cast to help out these generational talents. I'm sure when his son wants his advice on something, Scotty is happy to help him out, but I hardly think that the Blackhawks' success is a result of Scotty Bowman's mastermind.  I think a more accurate scenario is that he's just going along for the ride.

Yzerman also inherited some franchise pieces in Stamkos and Hedman.  And if we're looking for reasons why the Blackhawks and Tampa made it to the finals and the Wings didn't, I think the first place you have to look is at the core of these teams.  As I alluded to, Yzerman's core is in their prime and wouldn't be possible without having those high draft picks.  Chicago's core is in their prime and wouldn't be possible without having high draft picks.  The Wings' core is aging, and is entirely a product of later picks in the draft.  The supporting cast is there for the Wings, but the core isn't what it used to be.  Bringing Yzerman or Bowman or Nill back to Detroit won't change that scenario.  They aren't going to magically bring in players of Toews' and Hedman's calibre, not without the Wings suffering an epic collapse for a few years in a row.  After all, that's how Chicago and Tampa Bay got their elite talent.

#2614415 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by Echolalia on 14 June 2015 - 11:38 PM

I don't know , somehow I got a feeling cause it was Nill and he and holland are good friends, he somehow convinced holland to get more than he should of ... I Just don't like giving up good assets for guys who have brought nothing to help the team ... Anyways it's over now and I hope he thinks twice before trading mantha or someone else of value before he makes a deal

Man that list of guys you named that's what I'm talking about ... seeing that list ... Just brutal

As for kessel I'm not really worried about him , just hope and think we won't give up on mantha just yet , we got a ton of good kids upfront , we need to draft d's this year ... If we have 6picks I'd say 4-5 gotta be d's


In fairness to Holland this conversation would likely be going quite differently if he didn't get a season ending injury.  Cole was exactly the type of player the Wings needed going into the playoffs. 

#2614370 NBC Sports chairman wants NHL ban playoff beards

Posted by Echolalia on 14 June 2015 - 03:46 PM

Because he put hipsters in quotations I read it as people with wax mustaches are not real hipsters. I guess they're wannabes.

Aren't they technically "don't wannabes"?

#2614221 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by Echolalia on 13 June 2015 - 03:47 PM

These threads pop up periodically, regarding either Fedorov, or Osgood, or Zetterberg, or whomever, and I always say the same thing: if there's enough hesitancy among part of the fan-base that a debate is even warranted, then the player in question probably shouldn't get their jersey retired.  I can't speak for the legends from before my time, but as far as Yzerman and Lidstrom go, both cases were overwhelmingly unanimous.

#2614125 Free agents this off season

Posted by Echolalia on 12 June 2015 - 12:32 PM

It's funny how within the last year or so people were pretty bummed out about not landing Franson, Green, Erhoff, etc and now that everyone is available again the consensus on LGW so far is "meh"

I wouldn't mind adding someone who can be a steady offensive presence, though.