GoWings1905

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Holmstrom96" data-cid="2343862" data-time="1358824543"><p> Why does it sound like a puck hitting the pipes every few seconds? It's driving me nuts.<br /> <br /> I'm watching FSD in HD through WOW Cable.</p></blockquote> It's Jimmy hitting the post with his stick.

A point against Columbus feels like a relief at this point.

Beautiful play by both Z and Kronner. Nice to see the big guns finish one.

"We think Kyle Quincey is a solid replacement for Brad Stuart." LOL

Need Helm and E back for the PK desperately. Another penalty? Oh shocking, Kyle Quincey did something stupid. Waivers like the first time seems ideal again now.

Quincey and Smith is really not clicking as a pair so far.

Good patience and slick pass by Franzen. Huge goal with the way the Wings have controlled play.

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="datterberg1340" data-cid="2343385" data-time="1358818138"><p> can someone tell me why Emmerton is playing and not Nyquist?<br /> <br /> is Emmerton being a center THAT valuable to the coaches?</p></blockquote> Agreed. Emmerton is done on Friday when Helm comes back. It was his pass in the neutral zone that got Jimmy run over.

Nice pass Emdog.

Much better energy tonight so far. First powerplay was sloppy, second improved pressure and some quality scoring chances. Filppula has no support at all even strength.

How can the power play entry continue to be so pathetic? It took 1:40 to even get settled in the Columbus zone.

Tootoo lost, but I don't care. Love Babcock started the game with him.

What exactly has Franzen done in the playoffs the past couple seasons anyways? I fully admit that his three year tear before that was beyond impressive and a huge factor in the Red Wings making deep playoff runs. That being said, it's a hell of a lot easier for me to excuse Franzen's questionable work ethic during the regular season when he lives up to the reputation of playoff performer. He has three goals and four points in the past 13 playoff games. Besides streaky goal-scoring, what else does Johan Franzen provide to a hockey team? He doesn't use his size, isn't remotely physical and hasn't killed penalties since the early days of his career. Marian Hossa is an elite two-way forward that doesn't carry the label of lazy. Franzen's floating and having fun in the playoffs was a nice act when he actually performed.

I would have always chosen Hossa over Franzen. Hossa was injured pretty badly during the playoffs and he was the easy scapegoat for losing. Hossa is just better at everything on the ice. Nobody has ever questioned Hossa's work ethic. I think the Red Wings issues obviously run deeper than just Franzen over Hossa right now, but Holland messed up badly there.

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Crymson" data-cid="2342684" data-time="1358707314"><p> <br /> If he hadn't done it, you'd be screaming that he hadn't gotten anyone to replace Stuart.</p></blockquote> He didn't.

I don't understand the point of why people need to police how others react to games. Not calling out the OP here -- just a general statement. A team full of major question marks just got dismantled 6-0. Frustration and concern is warranted considering what I believe are issues that aren't going away even if the opponent isn't the Blues. I'm not jumping ship or going to panic the season is over from last night. I do believe this is a bigger problem than just "one game" though.

Well, that about explains why the score was 6-0.

I don't want to base everything off one game, but I feel pretty comfortable in saying that this defense has some major issues as many of us anticpated losing three top four d-men in two years. The Red Wings likely aren't a cup contender this season and the defense isn't going to get fixed through prospects already in the system. They also probably won't be as bad as tonight to receive a high draft pick and get an impact player right away. I mentioned it in the GDT and I believe the Red Wings need to call up the forwards (namely Nyquist and Tatar, maybe Andersson) that are NHL ready or close to it and see what they have now. The top-six is devoid of skill and players that can generate offense outside of Datsyuk and Zetterberg and opponents can take them away easier without worrying about secondary threats. There's too much old and slow up front on this roster. I appreciate what Cleary, Bertuzzi and Samuelsson have done as Red Wings, but their purposes were better served on a team that was competing for championships. Not to mention, age has caught up to all three lately. They don't have trade value, so they likely play out their expiring contracts or maybe get bought out. The only two forwards that might be attractive trade options at forward are Filppula and Franzen. I think now is the time Holland has to pursue and obtain a legitimate d-man. Striking out in free agency can happen as we've seen and the market is thin this summer anyways. A package centered around one or both of Filppula and Franzen (plus other prospects) gets you an extremely necessary piece on defense and provides the opportunity to assess the prospects at forward in those vacant spots. Nyquist and Tatar are blocked by a glut up front, yet the current crop of forwards in the top-six is aging and struggles to score goals when it matters. Holland has to take a risk since the Red Wings are in transition. It is a retool of sorts on the fly, while also providing an opportunity to build for the future. I don't think you can go forward with this group of d-men and expect to go deep in the playoffs again soon. Use an area of strength to fix a weakness, since solutions don't appear to be there internally. Smith is promising and maybe Quincey/Ericsson are adequate in lesser roles, but it's pretty clear the Red Wings have in no way replaced the departures of Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart. There needs to be serious exploring for a top pairing d-man by Holland very soon.

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="haroldsnepsts" data-cid="2342352" data-time="1358653182"><p> oh yeah, what's Franzen gonna do. <br /> <br /> Jackman has been a POS since day one in this league. </p></blockquote> No kidding. Laughable that Franzen even pretends to be tough with his history. The Blues run all over the Wings and don't have to worry about anyone actually going after Jackman there. 6-0 and they went down in humiliating fashion.

Somebody beat that POS Jackass down please.

Does anyone blame Nick? Honestly, the writing was on the wall the past few years and especially in the Nashville series. It's only one game, though I think it's pretty clear the Red Wings are in transition. Time for Holland to finally acknowledge that and inject the few talented young players in the system that are NHL ready or close to see what they have.

What's the penalty for? The ref was shocked a player in white attempted to hit someone? The Red Wings have no push back or fight when things go south and haven't for years. Just a bunch of small, slow "skill" players that appear to have no motivation either.

Sickening. Losing is one thing, not competing is something else. Props to Jimmy for caring. Only player that felt like they should produce a little effort tonight.

For the past couple seasons, we've heard how the league and parity has caught up to the Wings. I think we can change caught up to surpassed.

Ian White either shoots into bodies or way high. He never gets anything to the net. That shot was 60 feet high and then he didn't make the effort to get back.