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  2. daniel1

    World Juniors

    Anyone else impressed with Mazur so far at the Juniors? I really like his hustle and nose for the net.
  3. redw1ngs

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Im not sure where you get this idea that Zadina is bad. Hes a NHL player. Who cares if he never reaches top6 level hell never get paid like it either.
  4. mackel

    2022 Draft / UFA

    What you don't seem to realize is that Zadina is bad, he's not able to play the game at a top 6 level. What's Lalonde going to do that Blashill didn't? Under Blash there was more opportunity for a scrub like Zadina up the lineup. Now with the additions he's at best on the 3rd line with limited/no pp time.
  5. redw1ngs

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Whatever you say. No gm would give up assets for a 22yo former 6oa 25-35pt winger theyd obv rather the 32yo winger who is slightly more productive. Zadina is a fine 3w that could become a 2w if Lalonde lits a fire under his ass. Either way SY will pay him his worth or ship him out for a reasonable return. We dont have to worry about him being overpaid like we would of under KH.
  6. mackel

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Only if the player is a building block... an offensively challenged offensive player with worse than average defense is a transient bottom 6 player regardless of age.
  7. redw1ngs

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Clearly you dont but unfortunate to your argument gms do. Age is a huge factor when trading for or signing players.
  8. Yesterday
  9. mackel

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Never mentioned age... if the FA is 32 who cares... I'm talking in season performance. He's a replacement level player no matter his age. Not even Holland would double down on that mistake.
  10. town123

    2022 Draft / UFA

    I really wonder what Kenny would give up. Don't tell me SY and Holland haven't at least broached the subject. Time for a good old fashioned hoodwinking trade Stevie Y.
  11. redw1ngs

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Theres not a single <23yo FA that can be signed with Zadinas draft pedigree. Like it or not that matters to NHL gms. Imo most gms in the league would give up a 2nd or equivalent now and much more if he pops off this season. Give him 1 more season under a new coach to see what he can do.
  12. mackel

    2022 Draft / UFA

    So we want a teams worth of scrubs? That might be the only scenario where you could trade him... he's go no value right now. Better players can be signed for or near league minimum in FA.
  13. marcaractac

    World Juniors

    Yeah, Stevie only spoke up when he absolutely had to. He was very much lead by example. The 2002 run was the personification of this.
  14. Jonas Mahonas

    2022 Draft / UFA

    One thing you say here is something a lot of LGW posters fail to grasp = pay. Seems like a lot of people dont understand that we cant have 6.5 mil per season wingers on EVERY line. We need players that make 1.5-2.5 million in the bottom 6 that can play top 6 when injuries hit. And we need guys that are happy to do that. So far, Zadina hasnt put any pressure on anyone to make him a better player other than hisself. I see absolutely zero reason to get rid of a guy like that unless there are better options. With Soderblom, Niederbach, Berggren, and Mazur coming on, we could have better options soon.
  15. kipwinger

    World Juniors

    Most players said the same thing about Yzerman. Apparently he very rarely addressed the team during his time as Captain. In Yzerman's "NHL 100" video package Brendan Shanahan (and I think McCarty) explicitly talks about this too.
  16. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    World Juniors

    Seider is not the "in your face" or "rah, rah, rah" type of leader. Their personalities may be different, but every Captain since SY has been more of a laid back, passive type leader. Seider is similar to Larkin. Kind of goofy, even a little bit awkward off the ice from what I've seen. Almost a wholesome "Goody 2 Shoes" type. Nothing wrong with that. Just a different persona than what he does on the ice.
  17. redw1ngs

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Zadina wont ever be the top winger ppl were expecting when drafted but hes still effective mid6 winger. Zadina is what he is regardless where he was drafted. Its not like hes a overpaid player on a bad contract. Just hasnt met draft expectations yet that can be said for lotsa 22yo players. Hes consistently produced at a 25-35pt pace. If he has another season in that range he settles in as a good 3w and gets paid as such. Thats a 52pt pace. If he has a season like this maybe hes starting to turn the corner and look like a possible 2w. No you dont trade that unless its for a big return. Lets not pretend teams wouldnt be lining up to acquire a former 6oa pick at that production regardless what you think of him now. If Zad puts up 35pts in 55gp your probly looking at a late 1st+. At that point Id be happy with keeping him or getting that sort of return. Hes far from a lost cause yet lets see how he does under a new coach.
  18. marcaractac

    World Juniors

    He was taken out of an exhibition game as well for precautionary reasons. I'm guessing where it was "just Germany" they are resting him while they can as he is not 100%. Hope it doesn't f*** s*** up for training camp.
  19. town123

    World Juniors

    Did Eddog not play last night? Looks like he wasn't in the lineup and I can't find any explanation.
  20. marcaractac

    World Juniors

    The only thing they'll have in common is the fact that they'll take over as captain once their current captain retires/leaves.
  21. Jonas Mahonas

    2022 Draft / UFA

    Whats you having to badmouth Zadina have to do with Zadina?
  22. bIueadams

    World Juniors

    Are we watching the same team???? Lidstrom was stoic and quiet lead by example. Seider is literally overflowing with charisma and outgoing in ur face personality. These two are not at all similar.
  23. mackel

    2022 Draft / UFA

    What's Berggren got to do with Zadina being a failed top 10 pick?
  24. Jonas Mahonas

    2022 Draft / UFA

    10-4. Im not as down on him as you are. Will be interesting how you evaluate Berggren and his 16 pts this season.
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  26. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    World Juniors

    Seider is more of a Lidstrom type off the ice tho. I expect any leadership he provides to be way more passive.
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