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Fair enough. Didn't realize that.
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College kids have to pay their own way to TC, so they often don't attend.
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News From Around the NHL
ChristopherReevesLegs replied to Bring Back The Bruise Bros's topic in General
My twitter links aren't working, but Dreger reporting that Arizona sends a 3rd and Connauton to the Avs for Soderberg. Avs now have $38 million to re-sign Rantanen and play with FAs on July 1st... spooky Dreger also reporting that there will be a $13/$14 mil offer sheeet for 5 years this offseason, per word from execs... more spookiness -
Rasmussen: 6'6" 221 lbs Brannstrom: 5'10" 173 lbs
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We can agree if Rasmussen could have played in the All last season he would have right ? So I wouldn’t look at Rasmussen playing in the nhl and say he’s a better prospect automatically ... I know you didn’t say that I’m just saying it brannstrom is regarded as one of the top prospects not in the nhl yet , outside that he’s an offensive dman who will probably play on the first ppl and be a point producer which I think a lot of teams would love to have , I know we can definetly use him in our system right now cause outside hronek don’t see who’s more a sure thing to hit 45-65pts .... hopefully cholowski Could be wrong but I see him as a future first pair dman with a ton of offensive upside from the back end and I personally think teams would value someone like that more than a Rasmussen type player
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We’ll have to yet again agree to disagree no point missed , it’s called a difference of opinion ... they might have had players in the same tier doesn’t mean when it comes time to select and they See zadina ahead of kotkaniemi on the list let’s say,even though they think zadina will have a better statistical career than kotkaniemi they think it won’t be that much better and since they desperately need to find a center and nobody will come here and teams aren’t trading #1centers they just decide to draft the player themselves if you don’t think teams never draft for need Then I don’t know what to tell you , we simply won’t agree on this .... I never said yzerman didn’t want seider at 6 he probably would have taken him at 2 after byram knowing kakko and hughes would be gone cause we were going to address our defence this draft plain and simple , same with #35 tuomisto Who was probably more like 15-25 on the wings list anyways is what it is and I hope it all works out for us
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You're the only person on here that I resort to the ol "you're dumb" argument... Read into that what you will...
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Yeah if all offers are the same, I'd bet he picks there. Sounds like the Islanders may give him a blank checkbook though.. So I feel like it's mostly between those two.
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The ol "youre dumb" argument. One level away from hypothetical dad fighting. I must be right and you must be wrong.
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Nah, you're just too dumb to understand it...
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Can't wait to topple Persia for reasons
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The Donald!
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6/21 Choose Your Fighter GDT - 2019 NHL Entry Draft 1st Round - 8:00 PM EST
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Why? Brannstrom has 32 pts in 50 AHL games and 2 NHL games played. I'm sure he'll be a decent Dman but there's nothing about him that jumps off the page.
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Boy, Trump would love you as a supporter. "Yzerman admits to s***ty Defense Prospect Pool" The GM said "Boy, would have been great to be able to nab Cozens with that 6th pick like everyone on the face of earth thought we should. Too bad Holland left our prospect pool without a single top pairing prospect for me and instead drafted 175 straight left handed forwards." Even when the draft selections SCREAM drafting for need, LGWers are too blind to see it or too proud to admit it. Even when the draft pick himself has the biggest WTF look on his face ever seen at a draft, LGWers wont believe the obvious. YZERMAN DRAFTED FOR NEED (DEFENSEMEN WITH HIGH CEILING POTENTIAL). Get it through your skulls. You make no sense. You make sense.
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I highly doubt that. I bet it would be closer to a 50/50 split than every single GM in the league thinking Brannstrom is better than Rasmussen... You're missing the point... again... General Managers rarely ever "reach" or "go off the board" with their picks, especially picks in the top 10. I'm sure it happens, but those GM's are dumb, and eventually get fired... The ONLY time a GM should ever pick a player of "need", is when that player is viewed by the scouting staff to be the best player available, or at least in the same tier as the best players available. I'm sure Bergevin had Kotkaniemi in the same tier as some of the other players mentioned, but decided to take the center. Same goes for Sieder. I'm sure Yzerman had him in the same tier as a few other players, but decided to take the defenseman. Whatever though. Don't believe Yzerman when he says that he had Seider "right at 6" on his list...
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Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
Jonas Mahonas replied to Dabura's topic in General
I hope we acquire Seider and Tuomisto. Would be nice to offer thrm ELCs and watch thrm develop. I also hope we bring back Hronek, Cholowski, Bowey, Lindstrom, and Regula. If those 7 guys stay with us, we will have plenty of defensemen with Dekeyser, Kronwall, Green, Daley, and Ericsson. -
That is where i would go. So much talent there.
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He also met with Colorado.
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Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
nyqvististhefuture replied to Dabura's topic in General
That’s fair , figured a one year deal might be worth a risk and only if he was 100% stralman I’m fine with but I’d see him getting at least 2-3 years , I was trying to get guys on one year deals to flip at the deadline , if we can land 2 of those and get in on a clarkson/Callahan + flip ericsson/Daley/green sometime during the season we should have plenty of assets in a very deep 2020 draft -
Bobrovsky in NYC today Rangers have a $8.5 a year, 37 year old Lundqvist for two more seasons and could afford Bob. Lehner was a great story for the Isles, but he is UFA and Bob could be a huge upgrade. They can also more than afford him.
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By now everyone knows I was high on brannstrom and he’s the one I wanted (Probably Cause of my sweet spot for Swedes) but I’d have been happy with foote or valimaki , I wanted to target a dman that year cause or d’s been horrendous for the longest time maybe brannstrom ends up a 25-35 pt guy but I’m pretty sure if you asked 31 gms today including Stevie who they’d take and I’m sure they’d all say brannstrom ... but like we’ve all said it’s a wait and see approach for all these kids but I’d put my money on brannstrom being way better They obviously didn’t think kotkaniemi would be a 2c Which is why they took him also doesn’t mean they thought zadina would be a 2winger they were addressing a need , I live in Montreal so I saw all the media and interviews after , they been looking for a 1c for like 20 years so they finally were gonna address that need Cause it was quite obvious doing so by the draft was the only way it would ever happen so for them addressing the c was #1 priority , same as it seemed with Arizona , also heard them say drafting a C was the only way to get one .... so looks like we’re in agreement that they were addressing a need , which is what I also said about the wings drafting dmen this draft imo i personally wasn’t a big fan of Canadian guys and would have targeted podkolzin as everyone knows cause I thought he has future star written all over him and will turn heads in Vancouver with pettersson, But I’m not mad with seider I was hoping we’d have gotten another pick to take him , now I’m just hoping seider can be a dominate dman cause we need it
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Are the flyers one of those 432 likes? They picked the perfect time to strike
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Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread, Pt. 2 - What's the Yzerplan?
ChristopherReevesLegs replied to Dabura's topic in General
Count me out on Methot. He always benefited from being Karlsson's partner (a role he played well). Without a high flyer to pair him with he's just another version of Trevor Daley or Jon Ericsson in my mind. He's slowing down by injury and at the nature of being 34/35 as well. I'd be intrigued by Stralman, but some of the prices in FA this season seem ludicrous -
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I'm sure Holland had several names on his list as well. You wanted one of Brannstrom, Valimaki or Liljegren? It's still very possible that Rasmussen ends up better than any of those players. Unfortunately you couldn't have picked all three, so which one would you have taken? Brannstrom? He's a high-end prospect, but he could top out as a decent 2nd pair defenseman that puts up 25-35 points per season. What if Rasmussen becomes a 2nd line winger that puts up 45-55 points per season? Which player is more valuable? Debatable... We're also using hindsight of the past two seasons, something teams don't have on the draft floor. Like I said, I wanted Vilardi. He may end up being a complete bust... I see you're not going to give up on the "targeting a need" bulls***, so whatever. I'm done trying to convince you otherwise. I will say one last thing regarding the bold though... The Habs would not have picked Kotkaniemi if they thought Zadina or Tkachuk or anyone else was going to be the better player. I highly doubt they thought Kotkaniemi was going to be a 2nd line center and Zadina and Tkachuk were going to be 1st line wingers, and took what they believed was the lesser player... They likely seen Kotkaniemi as a 1C and Zadina as a 1W, and because they seen the two players similarly skilled, they decided to take the center that also fills a direct need. Maybe Yzerman sees Zegras as a potential 1C, Cozens as a potential 1W and Seider as a potential 1D. He feels that their ceiling respective to their position is more or less equal, so he took what you and others believe to be the "biggest need". I believe Cozens would have filled a bigger need, but what do I know...
