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  2. krsmith17

    Ehn vs Glendening

    Who was better? Stacy Roest or Kris Draper?
  3. krsmith17

    2020 Offseason

    Completely 100% agree with all of this...
  4. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    Howard = Average

    96-0 would leave them 2 games shy of a Stanley Cup win.
  5. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2019-20 Prospects Thread

    Just watched episode 3. Ewwwwww.
  6. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    2C Options

    I guarantee that one of our 2nds would be going back. Throw in Flip (expiring contract) and Bowey or Timo (RFAs) with it for Strome and a 2020 fifth. I would do that.
  7. Neomaxizoomdweebie

    Ehn vs Glendening

    Glenny has more experience, more offense, and is a RH shot. I would give him the edge now. I believe Ehn will become the next Glendening in a few years.
  8. Scott R Lucidi

    Ehn vs Glendening

    Whos a better 4th liner?
  9. Yesterday
  10. Dabura

    2020 Offseason

    I think Zadina has the potential to be better than Oshie/Tatar/Nyquist/Hudler. I don't think that's a stretch at this point in time. I know you're not crazy about his game, and I respect that, but, for me, there's a lot to like. I think he can be elite(ish). Yes, Hughes is looking like he would've been the smarter pick. But time will tell. Beyond Hughes, no 2018 hidden gems have emerged: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2018e.html We're in agreement about Zadina likely not being That Guy We Need; he's likely not going to be Pastrnak or Kucherov. ...Though, to be fair, Pastrnak and Kucherov have played with best-of-the-best players for most (all?) of their respective NHL careers, which has undoubtedly boosted them. In any case, I don't really hold anything against Zadina. He can only be the player he is. It's on the brain trust to fill the holes that need to be filled. I agree that the top priority has to be finding A Legit Superstar and that wanking ourselves off to our current "core" is starting to feel kinda stupid. We have sort of a "core by default," i.e. they're the best we've got, so we imbue them with importance and potential that maybe they haven't quite earned. But, as with Zadina, I don't really hold our situation against them. Hot take: Larkin is Toews without the Kane & Keith boost. Even with the Kane & Keith boost, Toews has cracked 70 points only twice in his career (76 in 2010-11, 81 in 2018-19). He's never hit 85 points. People can point to Toews's two-way play, which is fair, but I'd argue Larkin's underlying numbers point to him being a future Selke guy. People can point to Toews's intangible leadership qualities, but we all know he's a big baby. Ryan O'Reilly's never put up big numbers, but damn if he hasn't established himself as one of the most valuable players in the league. I think Larkin can become the player O'Reilly is today -- but even if he does, Yzerman needs to be winning lots of picks and trades and free agent signings for us to have a team like the 2019 Blues within the next three years. I don't really understand the "crutch" argument. Would you really have Yzerman trade our best young roster guys? If we do that, we could be gutting organizational depth that we've built up over years. Having Lafreniere and no supporting cast isn't much/any better than having a lot of good-not-great guys who lack a superstar leader. I think Yzerman has it right: We have some good young pieces, but it's not enough, and so we need to add, and we need a bunch of those adds to be big wins. I don't see why that has to take 10 years. These days, Cup-winners are generally driven by players in their late 20s and early 30s. I'd like to see us winning some playoff games by the time Larkin is 27ish, which would be three or four years from now. I think that's a reasonable timeline.
  11. marcaractac

    2020 Offseason

    I'd take on Seabrook if it were the primary part of acquiring Strome. Chicago dumping that contract would be HUGE for them. Wings will suck for most of the remainder of his contract. If the team does somehow get good and his contract gets in the way, it'll be an easy buyout to swallow at that point.
  12. krsmith17

    2C Options

    I'd pay a heavy price for Strome, the player, but if there are actual character issues, that's a different story. He's still only 23 years old though, and has near point per game upside. I'd take a flyer on a player with that sort of potential. That's a lot of spare parts... If that's all it took, you'd have to pull the trigger.
  13. LeftWinger

    2020 Offseason

    Not sure I want Seabrook for our rebuild. Also not sure if his LTIR is a permanent one or not. If so, I'll take that 1st round pick from them too!
  14. ChristopherReevesLegs

    2020 Offseason

    It's gonna be mighty sad for Abby next year when he goes to the Griffs and only manages 30 pts
  15. ChristopherReevesLegs

    2020 Offseason

    I don't really know what Chicago's needs are. Goalie? Maybe D? They seem to have a decent forward lineup even without Strome. They probably see Dach as the future 2C over Strome, which is likely why they don't wanna pay Strome the big contract he's likely to garner this year. Honestly their biggest need is probably unloading Seabrook. Would you take Strome + Seabrook for whatever?
  16. ChristopherReevesLegs

    2C Options

    Timashov + Bowey + our extra 3rd this year. RFA for RFAs. throw in some AHLers like Hirose or Turgeon for good measure
  17. LeftWinger

    2020 Offseason

    if we've learned anything, we aren't getting any 1st rounders for our players. But ya, a 2nd rounder for Helm or Glenny would be fine. Unless we could get a young RFA or something. Referring to the other thread, how about one of them for Strome?
  18. ChristopherReevesLegs

    2020 Offseason

    IDK, I don't see any 1st rounders coming out of those players, some 2nds would be nice though. Filppula maybe gets a 3rd? The most telling prediction for me was "Blashill probably gone, might remain with the Wings in a different capacity" AKA this guy is so goddamn awful he's not gonna be able to get a coaching job elsewhere in the NHL.
  19. LeftWinger

    2C Options

    So who do you trade for Strome?
  20. LeftWinger

    2020 Offseason

    ...and this is before there is any type of compliance buyout (if teams get one(or two).) all of Filppula, Helm, Glenny should be a pretty nice draft pick back from a Cup team.
  21. ChristopherReevesLegs

    2019-20 Prospects Thread

    HSJ sure seemed to think the Red Wings will waive Abby to make room for Svech in her last piece.
  22. ChristopherReevesLegs

    2C Options

    IDK but this tweet in particular is quite telling Maybe it's an off-ice issue? Cost not being prohibitive screams that to me. Arizona giving up on Strome super early is a little suspicious too... Chayka has been pretty active at purging "problem" players quickly over his career ala Perlini, Galchenyuk, Duclair, DeAngelo. Besides DeAngelo all those guys have moved on past the team they were traded to already, including Duclair and Perlini with Chicago. Maybe it's the same situation with Strome?
  23. marcaractac

    2019-20 Prospects Thread

    I think he'll get a fair shot. I honestly think Yzerman would waive and demote Abby before waiving Svech. He was on a tear before hockey got shut down, so hopefully another summer in the gym can do him wonders.
  24. krsmith17

    2C Options

    ... but why?
  25. ChristopherReevesLegs

    Howard = Average

    Evolution of goaltending: >Stand up >Stacking pads >Butterfly >Hybrid >Kirby style
  26. AtlantaHotWings

    Howard = Average

    Some research was tried https://interestingengineering.com/sumo-goalie-vs-nhl-player-bigger-goalie-better but then again it was a sumo turned goalie not goalie turned sumo.
  27. ChristopherReevesLegs

    Howard = Average

    That's the dream boys
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