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  2. Euro_Twins

    2019 Trade Deadline

    Obviously not serious
  3. Can't replace Helm and Abdelkader. The dynamos.
  4. Dabura

    Rumors Thread

    But ultimately he was exposed as being not quite ready for primetime, no? He's spent most of the season struggling (defensive liability, stopped putting up points, wasn't driving possession), so, if anything, he sort of validates the slow-and-steady development philosophy...no? I don't disagree that the Wings need to get younger, but I'm not seeing a bunch of NHL-ready defensemen banging on the door. Hicketts is probably a career AHLer. Sulak...skates well? Saarijarvi isn't doing much. Hronek's been going back and forth between Detroit and Grand Rapids and that's probably what's best for him.
  5. I'd be ok with that. I think?
  6. krsmith17

    Rumors Thread

    I'm not looking at Hanifin, and saying we need to dress Cholowski and Hronek. I'm looking at every team in the league (including Calgary) that are dressing young players as talented, or in some cases less talented than Cholowski and Hronek, and wondering why we have by far the oldest blue line in the league in a "rebuild". The bold is the exact reason we should be bringing in some younger players and the Flames and other contending teams are looking to bring in some older players (veteran leadership) for a playoff run. Cholowski was given a shot / stayed with the team as long as he did, because 1. veterans were injured, and 2. he didn't really give them much of a choice early on, with all that Calder Trophy talk...
  7. What if Holland signs Panarin this summer and Datsyuk returns too?
  8. Dabura

    Rumors Thread

    And it's not like Cholowski hasn't been given a shot. Made the team out of camp, had a good start, fell off a cliff. Now he gets to help the Griffins while we sell and tank.
  9. Dabura

    Rumors Thread

    It frustrates me that our blue line continues to be old and slow and outdated, but I don't think we should look at the Flames dressing Hanifin and other good young defensemen and say, "Hey! The Flames are dressing young defensemen and they're winning lots of games! The Wings need to get with the times!" We have a Hronek and a Cholowski. The Flames have a Hronek and a Cholowski and a Hanifin and a Giordano and a Brodie. And a Gaudreau. Et al. The Flames are looking to win a Cup. The Wings? Still rebuilding. The Flames are going for it. The Wings are bringing along their top prospects slowly and carefully, because there's no rush, because we're nowhere close to winning a Cup.
  10. krsmith17

    Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread

    Right, but the chance of another Veleno dropping to us is pretty slim. And as high as I am on Veleno, there's still no guarantee he becomes a top six center. A lot of people are still saying he'll be a solid 3rd line center (f*** those people)... Mantha or Athanasiou could also be used as currency to bring in a top 4 defenseman. I'm all for improving our team whatever ways we can, I'm just not into trading away talented young players in their prime for draft picks.
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  12. krsmith17

    Rumors Thread

    I'm not sure what that has to do with willingness to play talented kids over washed up vets... If anything, shouldn't the s***ty rebuilding team be more willing to play the kids over the talented playoff team? We constantly hear the same old bulls*** from management, how the days of overripening is over, we need to play the kids. They've had to at times, only because of injuries, but the moment all the vets are healthy, a kid is scratched / demoted to GR. Just to be clear, I'm okay with Cholowski and / or Hronek playing in Grand Rapids. I even said that I'd like to see them go on a Calder Cup run. I just think it's kind of silly the amount of bending over backwards this team / media / some fans are trying to do to justify playing bad veteran players over kids that occasionally make bad plays...
  13. kickazz

    Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread

    Right but look at where we got Veleno. Players drop all the time. Plus the 1st round picks could be used as currency to bring something else like a top D man into the team. This is one of those cases where I would want Holland to hoard all the picks by expending a couple of our young guys and waiting until the right D-man or Center is available to pull the trigger. Turn those first rounders into Drew Doughty baby. LA gonna be in rebuild mode soon enough.
  14. I was starting to fear you'd been mugged by a Preds fan! P.S. Go Flyers!
  15. Dabura

    Rumors Thread

    The Flames have a better group of players tho. Backlund, Brodie, Gaudreau, Giordano, Hamonic, Hanifin, Lindholm, Monahan, Tkachuk...there's a lot of talent on that team.
  16. MabusIncarnate

    2/17 Sisyphean GDT - Flyers @ Red Wings - 6:00 PM ET (NBCSN)

    I'll be here for this game tonight, wound up getting stranded for a few days in Nashville with car troubles but got back on Friday. It was a good time. Hoping for a strong effort from the Wings and the kids, but at this point, i'm pulling for a plummet in the stands the rest of the way and a better shot at Hughes. LGW!!
  17. krsmith17

    Rumors Thread

    So do the Red Wings... I would say Cholowski and Hronek > Kylington and Andersson. But more importantly, Cholowski and Hronek >> Ericsson and Daley...
  18. Dabura

    Rumors Thread

    They have good players tho.
  19. Dabura

    Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread

    I'd probably do it. I don't trust that Nyquist isn't going to revert to the 45-point player he's been for most of his career, so I'm not all that keen on bringing him back for 3+ years. There's no real need to move Mantha at this time, but I can think of a couple of scenarios where this deal might make good sense. Specifically: we get Hughes/Kakko and/or we sign Stone/Duchene/Panarin.
  20. krsmith17

    Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread

    Not true. Beyond pick 20 of the 1st round, which is where those three picks could potentially be, you have approximately a 20% chance to draft a top six forward / top four defenseman. As much as people harp on Mantha, he is a legit top six winger. I'll take the sure thing, over the long odds of drafting another one that might be as good in 3-4 years... Like I said though, top 10 pick, sure. Anything beyond that, probably not. The only way I'm interested in trading a Mantha or Athanasiou is if we're getting an equally as good defenseman in return.
  21. Please lose this game. All that matters now is getting best % at number 1!! Enough of this compedative non sense!
  22. krsmith17

    Rumors Thread

    We have old man Trevor Daley that you can have... Don't let the jet black hair fool you Burkie, he uses Just For Men... To CGY - Howard, Daley To DET - Smith, 2019 1st round pick Completely unrelated... Flames sit 1st place in the West, 2nd in the league... "Four defensemen aged 22 or younger"... So you're saying you can be good with a young team?...
  23. kickazz

    Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread

    I think I would do it. I don't think Vegas makes it far this year. We would have guaranteed two 1st round picks for the next 3 years. Beyond that first round players are "usually" average/below average. 1st round picks more or less give you top 6 forwards / top 4 defensemen. But the sky is blue today.
  24. Everyone's waiting for Columbus to gift Chicago Panarin and Bobrovsky. Once that's out of the way, chaos shall reign.
  25. Jonas Mahonas

    Official 2019 Offseason Rebuild Thread

    Immediately.
  26. Kenny should have 3 trades done by now and he has zero. What an asshat of a GM we have.
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