kindlwillbegreat

im not even saying to get schneider ............ in 2 yrs we can have 4 players making half the team salary if lidstrom is still playing and winning norris's , we cant take that chance if we gotta free up cap space we gotta get rid of datsyuk or a combination of players , its crazy

your forgetting about the other guys who will get raises .........franzen , cleary , lebda , those guys will likely get 1.75- to 3 mill each depending on the player , if cleary gets another 20 goal season he can easily get 2 mill +, we cant take the chances to have no cash to resign our guys cause 4 players make half the teams cap if the cap goes down were screwed ........ if howard sucks and we need to get a legitimate goalie which will cost us money we will be screwed with the new cap we gotta think ahead

unless lidstrom retires or if he takes a hugeeeeee paycut you see him taking far less then 7 ??? if hes winning norris's in 2yrs i dont think he'd take 3.5 a yr lidstrom at 7 ......smyth at 5.5 and zett-dats at 6.7 each = 25.900 .........only way we might have a snowballs chance of gettin this done is if we sign up all our young players like filppula-howard-kindl with potential to longterm deals at discounts before they get to the big seasons and get big raises

whos the 2 huge players ? i thought it was just markov and hasek unless your talkin about bertuzzi , he didnt do anything btw .....and like i said hasek is one of the best all time it was a gamble but its not the same thing .........anyways im talking about forwards if we wait we'll end up with an alyn mccauley or josef stumpel ,anyways we'll see what happens i trust kenny and stevie, if there isnt much left at the end id rather let the kids play 3 forwards at under 7 million each i think they can ...........3 forwards plus lidstrom at 7 million i do not we cant take the chance that lidstrom retires or that we can trade datsyuk , cause if lidstrom stays and we cant get rid of datsyuk then bye bye zetterberg , unless we then get rid of guys like filppula and holmstrom .......as good as smyth is we have to forget him go for the cheaper player with less yrs on his deal like a bill guerin , put him next to datsyuk and he'll get 30-40

' the problem with signing smyth longterm is in 2 yrs we gotta sign zetterberg to big money and who knows if lidstrom will still be making 7 , we cant sign guys like smyth to big money past 2 yrs

zetterberg 2.650 datsyuk 6.7 holmstrom 2.250 samuelsson 1.2 forsberg 4.5 guerin 3.5 franzen 940k filppula 710 grigorenko 858 cleary 660 draper 2.1 maltby 888 kopecky 500k lidstrom 7.6 pitkanen 3 kronwall 3 lebda 650 quincey 510 chelios 850 lilja 1 hasek 3 ozzie 850k =46.916 if the cap goes up to 50 then we'd have over a mill to play with at the deadline trade hudler/meech for pitkanen sign pitkanen 4 yrs 3 mill per forsberg 1 yr 4.500 ( can see him takin a bit less to play with his fellow swedes, and yes he might of gotten injured last yr but still showed up when it counts, hes dynamite int he playoffs and its a 1 yr deal) guerin 1-2 yr deal at 3.5 per i think the chance to play in detroit might entice him

ryan smyth isnt a center , and preissing wouldnt take 1.5

for anyone who wants to check it out ........ wings also hope Zack Torquato's a steal http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2007/06/wi...orward_zac.html http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2007/06/de...cameron_in.html http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2007/06/wi...dersson_in.html http://blog.mlive.com/redwingsinsider/2007...ersson_wit.html

thats different , people were afraid of hasek cause of his injury but your talking about the dominator, on of the best goalies of all time it was a risk but the payoff could of been great and it was , i doubt we'll get that much of a reward with josef stumpel ...........and markov isnt a big name but hes physical and is just what we needed int he back end , if you wait for the forwards then at the end there wont be much left to choose from , even bertuzzi will find some stupid team to give him the money he wants , not 5 + but something were not willing to give him

the wings wait and we'll get the losers left over that no one wants lol , like stumpel,nagy,tanabe .........btw marco sturm signed with the bruins so he isnt available trust me schneider wont have to wait for the numbers to go down , cause a team will offer him the big money , hes not a big risk like other players meaning they wont have to lock him up to long term deals , im sure a team will offer him a 2 yr 10 million deal ..........at that point i say adios matty

ya for sure he'll go to the east unless they deal him to phoenix , cause lets face it phoenix wont be a threat for a few yrs , most teams have a goalie now except for phoenix and boston

i dont know about torquato , but i do think andersson will be a good 3rd-4th line player on our team that will hit guys , brendan smith is the guy im excited about hes got some nice upside , i saw some videos he looks really good , i think he can be a really good player for us down the line with kindl and kronwall

thats true unless it was a 3 way deal , but then it would a slap to the face of howard

i was actually thinking about pitkanen ........since schneider will get more on the market i was thinking maybe hudler and meech for pitkanen would get him here , only reason i throw him in is cause i dont think babcock wants him and his value althought not super high its pretty good id then sign pitkanen for 4 yrs at 3-4 per .............but i think edm will get him if we got pitkanen he'd be able to play with lidstrom on the ppl ........i wouldnt mind guerin for a yr one deal and let the kids grigorenko kopecky and quincey play

i just heard a nice laughable rumor on the montreal french radio and the guy was saying lecavaliers entourage was saying it was a done deal .........LOL draft picks ( not sure if its this years 1st rd pick , none the less picks ) jaroslav halak michael ryder mike komisarek

wow wtf man 208 DET BRYAN RUFENACH 4/15/1989 Cameron, ON CA 5' 11" 184 OPJRA LINDSAY D L so much for the goalies ! , i had a feeling we wouldnt take one this year , owuya is tne 2nd ranked and he didnt even get picked , even brenda ............i wont go against our scouts but im pretty pissed this year , andersson i think was our only player from europe this year i believe at least our 1st 2 picks are players who i think one day might play in the nhl heres a link on our last pick http://www.lindsaymuskies.com/Stats.html REGULAR SEASON YEAR TEAM GP G A PTS PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG 2006/2007 Lindsay 31 11 21 32 28 5 10 2 0 3 2005/2006 Lindsay 48 11 15 26 50 3 8 0 0 1 TOTALS 79 22 36 58 78 8 18 2 0 4 i dont know about this kid , we been lucky last few yrs with ericsson and pyett as our last picks ..i still think we should of taken a goalie

202 FLA (from DAL) SERGEI GAYDUCHENKO 6/6/1989 Yaroslavl RU 6' 5" 222 RUSSIA-3 YAROSLAVL 2 G L he was ranked 13th european goalie this year , so the 1st and 13th are gone lol .....wow cant believe no ones taking european goalies 204 NSH ATTE ENGREN 2/19/1988 RAUMA FI 6' 0" 185 FINLAND LUKKO G L another goalie but not from the top 16 in europe

plus we only have 5 picks lol , who knows if some other team took a guy they really wanted , we unfortunetly cant see the wings list of players they like lol hey btw besides that finnish defensemen theres been no fins taken this year right ?? what a weak year for fins im sure theres a guy out there thats gonna be good , that someone missed

thats a good bet but if i were a betting man id say the reason the wings havent taken a goalie yet is cause there gonna take some goalie from europe no ones heard of yet ........in the top rankings for goalies only the 1st ranked goalie was taken , no european goalies taken besides him take your pick lol ......... number 2 .......7 ........and 14 are from sweden lol i say we take number 7 lol 2 OWUYA, MARK SWE U20 DJURGARDEN 18-Jul-89 6´2 198 G L 3 BENDA, MAREK CZE U20 KARLOVY VARY 21-May-89 5´11 169 G L 4 METSOLA, JUHA FIN U20 ILVES 24-Feb-89 5´10 158 G L 5 HIADLOVSKY, TOMAS SVK U20 TRENCIN 15-Dec-88 5´11 167 G L 6 BOBROVSKY, SERGEI RUS NOVOKUZNETSK 20-Sep-88 6´1 174 G L 7 ENGSTRAND, CHRISTIAN SWE U 20 LINKOPING 8-Nov-88 6´0 194 G L 8 CIACCIO, DAMIANO SUI U20 FRIBOURG 10-Feb-89 6´2 183 G L 9 KOTVAN ZDENKO SVK U20 SKALICA 12-Aug-89 6´0 196 G L 10 PIELMEIER TIMO GER U20 KOLN 7-Jul-89 5´11 172 G L 11 ZHELOBNYUK, VADIM RUS 2 DYNAMO 22-Apr-89 5´11 176 G L 12 JARVENPAA, JUHA FIN U18 ASSAT 11-May-89 6´0 185 G L 13 GAYDUCHENKO, SERGEI RUS 2 YAROSLAVL 6-Jun-89 6´5 222 G L 14 LACK, EDDIE SWE U20 LEKSAND 5-Jan-88 6´2 172 G L

i just noticed 3 of our 4 picks were centers ya i know lol the kings took him , i definetly think were going with a goalie , if not itll be a guy in sweden no ones heard of , im surprised we didnt take one of those this year 2 other goalies were picked , surprisingly no one from europe 183 T.B (from PHX) TORRIE JUNG 1/21/1989 Nanaimo, BC CA 6' 1" 170 WHL KELOWNA G L 187 BUF (from EDM) NICK ENO 2/12/1989 Howell, MI US 6' 3" 190 EJHL GREEN MOUNTAIN G L

heres another link on him http://www.ottershockey.com/team/players/zack-torquato/ Career Stats Regular Season Year Team GP G A PTS PIM 2005-2006 Saginaw Spirit, OHL 65 19 18 37 56 Team Canada, U18JWCup 4 0 0 0 2 2006-2007 Saginaw Spirit, OHL 22 10 13 23 24 Erie Otters, OHL 43 20 26 46 69 Team Canada, U18JWChamps 6 0 3 3 2 OHL Totals 130 49 57 106 149 Playoffs Year Team GP G A PTS PIM 2005-2006 Saginaw Spirit, OHL 4 1 0 1 6 he played 2 seasons so far so i guess he was draft eligible last year and was passed on ? ......he had a 30 goal season but dissapeared in the playoffs with 1 goal in 4 games i got no idea lol hey mighty wings josh kidd is gone lol ...........i havent a clue why the goalies arent picked but im hoping we get 1 of the 3 , owuya , brenda or metsola

sorry for the delay i had to step out ........i think were better off trading mcgrath now for a 3rd pick or somethin i dont think he'll make it ..........dam while i left we lost 2 other d men that i liked 163 MTL NICHLAS TORP 170 MIN HARRI ILVONEN i got back right in time for the wings .........we'd better take a goalie !!! brenda or owuya 78 DET ZACK TORQUATO 6/8/1989 Sault Ste Marie, ON CA 6' 0" 195 OHL ERIE C R LOL jesus christ , so much for a goalie being a top priority , who the hells this punk lol http://www.saginawspirit.com/ss/home.nsf/P...rquato_Zack.htm Zack has the distinction of scoring the first playoff goal in Spirit history on 3/24/06 against the Guelph Storm. He won a gold medal with Team Canada in the 2006 U-18 World Junior Cup. he played the prospects game they said on tv in 2007 , and the commentator said another steal for detroit ? well have to see lol i think they took him too cause mursak plays for the spirit too no ?? i guess they got 2 players to check on the same team now lol

155 COL (from WSH) JENS HELLGREN 3/6/1989 Bjorbo SE 6' 3" 192 SWE-JR. FROLUNDA JR. D thats 2 players colorado takes that i wanted bastardsss

the only thing i can think of is they see potential and think he'll have a better 2nd year , like mcgrath pretty much did but , mcgrath doesnt look like hes going anywhere

koopmans will never be an nhl goalie, liv went back to sweden ........trust me were taking a goalie