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the flames are at 32 million?? well if they add aucoin theyd be at 36 , and if they basically get rid of tanguay for smyth and say smyth makes 6 million theyd be at 37 million , they'd be more then fine ......iginla is already making 7 million so the cap hit couldnt go much higher if they kept him , how much you think hes gonna get ??? kiprusoff on the other hand is making 2.9 , so lets say he gets 6-7 million then thats an extra 3-4 million, that all adds up to 40-43 million .....like i said they got space , as for tanguay , in 3-5 yrs kane will be better then tanguay , so there way better off keeping kane , tanguay is a good player but hes a 20-25 goal scorer , and in my opinion overrated ......hes good but hes not as good as you make him out to be and definetly not worth 5 million a year

exactly , and theres gonna be some gems in this draft we'll talk about in the future , i find it hard to believe to go through a draft and not find some good players along the way

to "you" there are no gamebreakers.... patrick kane , turris and riemsdyk are gonna be really good players in this league and you think the hawks would trade one of them away along with aucoin to shed salary and get tanguay ?? thats just crazy . patrick kane's got unbelievable talent , just cause theres no crosby doesnt mean the draft sucks , chicago needs help your right but they wouldnt trade away there future just to make the post season, calgary's got unrestricted free agents this yr ( hamrlik,stuart,amonte) that they can choose not to resign to save cash , which is why i wouldnt be surprised if tanguay went the other way so they get a defensemen back in line up and basically trade tanguay's salary and go for a ryan smyth . . .....trust me the flames dont need to shed cap space to keep both kipper and iginla i heard somewhere thanks to the canadian dollar being strong and all , that theyd raise the cap next year ,they'll be fine incoherent lol ill let that pass ...........your a smart guy lol .........i can see them trading tanguay to go for a smyth though which i heard somewhere before that there really gonna push for him , i can see it happening it would be like smyths way of saying F-U to lowe and the front office

because there would of been no chance in hell that the 1st overall pick and aucoin would be sent for tanguay , makes absolutely no sense its ridiculous .........and as for smyth to chicago i was saying if the flames sent tanguay it would be to clear up space to go after smyth

ya i know it would never happen but i would think about it , i like datsyuk and all but 7 yrs is a long long time and i think down the road when we need cap space we might regret having him , everyone wanted to get rid of him and now that he had one decent playoffs everyone loves him , next year if he tanks everyone will say ahhh you see hes back to his old ways trade his ass .......but i get what your saying i think we got alot of good playmaking skilled forwards i would of wanted to add someone like smyth to balance the team more , but i know we'd never trade datsyuk .....if it ever happens itll be 3-4 yrs down the road

its impossible to go for iginla ........in 2 yrs we'll have lidstrom zetterberg datsyuk making somethin like 21 million combined , we cant have 4 players near 30 million

LOL ya i got serious issues with logic and your the one who thinks aucoin and the 1st pick overall could of been sent to the flames pls man dont talk to me about not being logical, who says the kids in the top 3 couldnt of been in the top 10?? just cause people say that its not a great draft year doesnt mean the top 3 are cant miss's .......yzermans draft year wasnt suppose to be good but there was good players that came out that year your forgetting ......hamrlik,freisen,amonte and i think stuart are gonna be unrestricted so they got cap space to get aucoin , as for who the flames gave up maybe a pick and a player like Andrei Zyuzin .......if they send tanguay to chicago it would shock me , only reason theyd do that is to clear cap space to go after ryan smyth

you wouldnt be surprised to see aucoin and the 1st overall for tanguay ?? LOLLL ya like the hawks are gonna give up the 1st overall pick to the flames just to get rid of aucoin's salary , come on man ........getting tanguay in return is laughable , calgary would have a parade if that trade happened thats hilarious , no idea dude but thats just stupid on calgary's part ........maybe itll work out for them since he wont be the number 1 guy there but at 4 million thats just crazy , hawks caught a big break

thanks for the feedback

lmao if only it was that easy , he did play with the kitchner rangers and jakub kindl so that can a plus i guess that they know one another ......heres some info on him if anyone was wondering what kind of player he was 17. Roberto Bortuzzo, D, Kitchener Rangers Mar. 18, 1989 At 6'4 and already 205 pounds, the 18-year-old blueliner has already filled out a lot of his frame, yet still has room to grow. And, as a solid stay-at-home type blueliner, the Thunder Bay product has the size and presence to keep opposition forwards clear of his goalie's goalmouth. Bortuzzo's offensive game is still in its infancy, as he only accounted for 14 points in 63 games. And his shot isn't exactly leaving anyone quaking in fear with only two goals to his name this year. However, if a club is looking to make a sizable investment in keeping pucks out of their own net, then a defensive defenseman like Bortuzzo's ripe for the picking.

you dont like it dont read , simple as that i dont like seeing your little jesus thing either but i dont complain , just dont read i agree with you , i just think he would of found a way to will us through , the year before it was just badluck we had to deal with roloson stopping everything , we were better this year , more determined i just think having yzermans leadership there would of made a difference maybe we would of found a way to win game 4 as we should of , he still had 4 assists in 4 games vs the oilers in the post season its not amazin stats but still a pt a game .......but again like most of you said to many if's , we'll never know .

im really bored so heres my predictions lol .....i put mtl ahead at 8th cuz i heard they want esposito lol ...........and im takin a guess we'll trade the 27th pick and im guessing here but im gonna say to colorado for the 45th and 55th picks lol but i do think we'll have 2 2nd round picks 1 chicago - patrick kane 2 philadelphia - kyle turris 3 phoenix - james van riemsdyk 4 l.a - karl alzner 5 washington - jakub voracek 6 edmonton - alexei cherpanov 7 columbus - sam gagner 8 montreal - angelo esposito 9 st louis - brandon sutter 10 florida - ryan mcdonagh 11 carolina - keaton ellerby 12 boston - mikael backlund 13 toronto -lars eller 14 colorado -logan couture 15 edmonton - kevin shattenkirk 16 anaheim - nick petrecki 17 rangers - logan macmillan 18 calgary - colton gillies 19 minnesota - oscar moller 20 pittsburgh - thomas hickey 21 phoenix - bill sweatt 22 - montreal - brett maclean 23 nashville - zach hamill 24 st louis - jonathan blum 25 vancouver - david perron 26 st louis - max pacioretty 27 colorado - alex plante 28 washington - maxim mayorov 29 ottawa - tommy cross 30 - edmonton - michael repik heres the wings 2nd rounders goalie kent patterson 6'4 202 centre keven veilleux

your right on that but if we dont resign matt which i dont think will happen i think we might be able to get a bill guerin maybe , he would cost us say 4 million and wouldnt require a longterm deal , so we can get rid of him when lidstrom needs the big contract , plus guerin is the kind of player we need , physical and can score

first , i think zetterberg is our franchise once lidstrom retires ......2nd if the two of them need eachother to be good then they dont deserve to get close to 7 million a season , players making that much money should make other players playing with them better , not that they need good players to be good .............i understand what your saying and i do realize it would probably never happen but if i was the gm id consider it , i find hard to believe youd think having datsyuk would be better then having forsberg and smyth combined , i do realize forsberg has been injured lately but when hes not hes at the top of his game and like smyh he shows up in the playoffs when it counts , smyth is also what we need in the post season a guy who hits and pays the price ( yes we got holmstrom but wouldnt hurt to have him in the team too) smyth plays with heart and determination when its all on the line and as for pitkanen he could of replaced schneider whos likely to be gone after the ridiculous amount of cash timonen got , pitkanen is only 23 hes a big guy who can be gritty and physical and be offensive , its good to have lebda and quincey but it be nicer if pitkanen was in the mix as well with kronwall and kindl ........i understand why you and others are skeptic but in order to get good players you gotta give up some , especially now with the cap , you gotta be creative hey on a sidenote guys i just read on the fourthperiod.com that the bruins might trade the 8th overall pick , i know it wouldnt be enough but it got me curious , just for fun ............what do you guys think is the much we'd be able to get for hudler ???? hes nhl ready, hes young proved he can score with his 15 goals with almost no ice time and no real scoring talent on his line .........what do you think he can get for us ?

ya well thats why i said datsyuk cause as good as he is he's one player , better off trading just him then say a combo of grigorenko/kindl/howard .................if it was possible id trade hudler plus our five 2007 picks lol , but the flyers wouldnt be guaranteed to get anyone with our high picks .........i know what your saying dude but i wish there was a way to land him , yzermans his idol so maybe yzerman can convince him to come when hes unrestricted at 25-27

im watching the special on tsn as well i must of missed that part i think aucoin at 4 million is a player i wouldnt trade for .........btw do you know if the special is 30 mins or an hour ??

LOL whats my point , obviously there is players that arent gonna live up to expectations but it doesnt mean turris will be one of them, cleary wasnt a potential 1st overall btw ........and i wasnt just putting up his point stats i was putting up the info on what the scouts say about him ...............anyways i just read some loser post this on hockeybuzz.com ..........LOLLLL the guys complaining about giving a high 20 pick and kesler for turris ........LOL Don't do it Dave! Today @ 6:12 PM ET | Comments (42) I'm of the very humble opinion that trading Ryan Kesler and our first round pick to the Flyers for their # 2 overall pick would be a mistake. It makes no sense to me to trade a proven potential Selke award winner for a young kid who hasn't even played at the highest level. Sure, Kyle Turris has been touted as a, "can't miss" but Kes is our prime defensive forward. He's money on the PK. Brendan Morrison is available. Take him. Don't do it Dave. Thoughts?

ryan smyth and guerin are the only ones id consider from the ones you put .........i wouldnt mind stuart but he'd cost to much , id rather have sarich

it's not a surprise we knew he'd be back there

LOL you hurt my feelings and i wont be able to sleep tonight , thanks alot ! LOL ...................you wanna get something good you gotta trade something good , especially with the cap to consider you gotta move higher salaries and lidstrom is retiring a redwing , i wouldnt bet everything i own on the fact that datsyuk will retire a redwing, zetterberg will be the one to hang em up as a wing vancouver is after the 2nd overall to land turris and apparently holmgren is more then willing to deal the 2nd overall pick (moron) ----------and holmgren said he would deal his 2nd pick for a roster player COLUMBUS, Ohio _ Vancouver GM Dave Nonis wants to pick Kyle Turris in the draft. That means he needs the Flyers' No. 2 pick and he has offered to do a deal with Flyers' GM Paul Holmgren. Vancouver has the 25th pick. The Canucks are one of several clubs, Holmgren said, who have called him about the pick. "There's been a few calls, people fishing around to see if it is a possibility," Holmgren told me this afternoon. "Dave asked me, would you guys consider moving down and said we would. I had about 5-6 calls like that." Holmgren said he would trade his No. 2 pick for a roster player or several picks. The Flyers need to lose some salary in this draft this weekend and are looking to make larger deals or at least set the stage for some deals coming out of the draft. The Edmonton Oilers are also interested in the Flyers' pick. BTW: I asked New Jersey GM Lou Lamoriello whether he would ever consider the kind of deal the Flyers made this week with Nashville, allowing them to negotiate with a future free agent he would not be able to re-sign. To my surprise, Lamoriello said he would "never rule out" such a scenario. Would you do it with the Flyers? He smiled.

well thats why i said if we'd trade dastyuk then we'd have the cash for smyth ............never say never to forsberg we tried getting him at the trade deadline so we never know lol .........as for turris since hes a yzerman fan maybe yzerman can convince him to come here when hes unrestricted

i respect your opinion , if it was a perfect world then id keep the both and add those 3 guys but its not lol .....im saying zetterberg to me is the untouchable

i never mentioned anything about zetterberg , he should retire a redwing , datsyuk as good as he is i would consider doing that trade if it would mean getting up and comer turris, ryan smyth and pitkanen ........if im crazy so be it heres some info on turris ............. Central Scouting Report: A skilled forward with great playmaking abilityâ€Â¦ has an accurate shot with a quick releaseâ€Â¦ a fluid skater that has a nose for the net and the ability to control the flow of the gameâ€Â¦ not afraid of taking a hit and can perform under pressureâ€Â¦ has good on-ice awareness and a good work ethic. Hockey Profile: Scored 50 goals in first 39 games of 2006-07â€Â¦ had 13 multi-point games including three games with four goals in 2006-07â€Â¦ was second in the BCHL in scoring during the regular season with 121 points (66-55-121)â€Â¦ had 26 points in 14 playoff games in 2007 (12-14-26)â€Â¦ was named as the BCHL's Most Valuable Player as well as the MVP and the Top Forward of the Burnaby Express in 2007â€Â¦ won the Royal Bank Cup in 2006 (Canada's National Tier 2 Junior Championship) with the Burnaby Express - named the Tournament MVP after posting 13 points (7-6-13) in six games, including a hat trick in the final gameâ€Â¦ member of Team Canada's Under-18 Team in 2006 - had a goal and an assist in helping Canada win gold at the Junior World Cupâ€Â¦ represented Team Canada at the 2007 Under-18 World Championships in Finlandâ€Â¦ played 57 games with the Express last season posting 72 points (36-36-72). Personal Profile: Nickname is KTâ€Â¦ wears #19 because of his favorite player, former Detroit Red Wing Steve Yzerman and because it was the number his dad wore - his father was a dominant player in the Western Lacrosse League for many years captaining the Vancouver Burrardsâ€Â¦ patterns his game after Steve Yzerman - "he's a great all-around player and a leader that is modest"â€Â¦ credits his parents and Burnaby Express coach Rick Lanz for having the most influence on his career because of their supportâ€Â¦ his pre-game ritual always includes a cold showerâ€Â¦ if he could have dinner with any three people they would be: boxing great Muhammad Ali - "he was much more than a boxer", Neil Armstrong - "to learn what it was like to walk on the moon" and Steve Yzerman - "he's my favorite player"â€Â¦ most memorable game played: the last two games of the 2006 Royal Bank Cup because they had "dramatic finishes and were on the national stage"â€Â¦ most memorable hockey game watched: Team Canada capturing gold at the 2002 Olympics because of the "national pride in Canada"â€Â¦ he admires his parents - "they are the type of people I hope to become - respectful, honest and hard working"â€Â¦ favorites include: "shoot wherever a hole is, no deke" (shootout move), NHL 2007 (video game), Matt Damon (actor), Rachel McAdams (actress), Jack Johnson (musician), Remember the Titans (movie) and Seinfeld (TV show). Statistics Season Team League GP G A PTS PIM 2006-07 Burnaby BCHL 53 66 55 121 83

forsberg is still one of the best players in the game thats why id take a chance on him , and it wouldnt be a longterm deal and as long as the guy would be ready for the post season thats all that would matter , the guy is unbelievable , i think he would love coming here with all the other swedes he's still only 33 ........i really can't see us losing that series against the ducks if he were in the lineup with us , im sure we would of got some big goals against the ducks ...........losing to them still kills me cause i know 2007 should of been our year, ah well LOL no .............and you'll see kyle turris will be amazing and in 2-5 yrs youll be like omg that kids so good i wish he was in detroit lol ........plus trading datsyuk would give us cap space to get ryan smyth who im sure would come here in a heartbeat so its basically datsyuk for smyth pitkanen turris i might be the only one but i really like it ..........an extra 800 k and we get ryan smyth and his 30+ goals a season with all his passion and heart for the game and a guy you most definetly know will do whatever it takes to win every post season and a young gritty offensive defensemen to replace schneider who will now be out of our price range thanks tot he timonen signing ........and a guy whos got all the tools and will undoubtedly in my mind be a future star in the nhl well they got timonen so they might trade him now , plus its been rumored for a while now they been wanting to trade pitkanen for some reason ........why wouldnt they want dastyuk for 7 yrs at under 7 million ?? they wanna go for drury or gomez and pay 6-7 but nothing is guaranteed if they go on the free market to get them .............as for us not trading datsyuk i know it wont happen but i would seriously consider it if i was the gm ( save the thank god your not the gm comments lol ) with this new cap you gotta thank ahead and be creative and take chances ..........kyle turris would be here till hes like 27 , if we got smyth we could lock him up for 5 yrs and we'd have pitkanen ........i love dastyuk but if it was possible to add those guys and lose him i wouldnt be crying , we'd have those 3 and we'd still have lidstrom,zetterberg, holmstrom all the younger guys coming up like filppula,kronwall,kindl and free agents we can get

he's asking for 4 million per ............... i'll pass