Z and D for the C

Sykora has a great shot and I think for the right price (1.5-2-ish mil) he'd be a great fit on the second line.

Do you think that could actually happen!?!?

Zetterberg Datsyuk Holmstrom Franzen Filppula Sykora Get it done, kenny!

At this point I have a hard time believing hudler is anything but a tool.

For once I agree with mindfly. I don't want him on the team oven moreso than before.

Have you?

Don't worry everyone, GMR is just kidding. He knows that Flip is a great second line center and that Holland will make and has made the right moves.

Good thing Hudler is greedy.

They were able to turn a stellar defense two seasons ago into an absolutely atrocious defense last season. It was multiple factors that went into why our defense was bad, none of which I think we'll encounter this year.

The off season isn't over yet (we're a week into it), we weren't going to make any big name signings. Just be patient.

How many goals would a 2nd or 3rd round pick have scored?

Flip spent most of his time on the third line until the third round when he was with Hossa and Franzen. Everything you're saying about Hudler is the same for Flip, and probably moreso.

I'm happy.

Your buddy doesn't know very much about hockey. Flip was right up there with the Zetterberg as the wings best players over the entire playoff run.

ZDH Franzen Flip Cleary Leino Helm ___ Maltby Drapes ___ The thought of that second lines turns me on.

I thought they had way more cap space than that. Damn you nhlscap.com!

The word ***** can be used as an insult, or an entirely non insulted word for a pregnant dog. Pretty much two completely different things. Please, someone, ANYONE, educate me and inform me two entirely different relevant (I don't think Snazzy was talking about Hossa's birthday) meanings of the word cancer. I know it makes you feel smart and above me, but your analogy and attempt at a witty insult sucks. He specifically called Hossa a cancer. "What a cancer, glad [that cancer hossa] is gone". It's black and white. I'm not changing what he said. He didn't say 'I'm glad Hossa is no longer with us as there is a chance a situation could emerge that could impact the red wings future as an elite team due the the cap space he would take up". No, he called him a cancer. Coupled with Snazzy's obvious hatred of Hossa judging by his posts in other threads it's quite clear what Snazzy really thinks of him.

Great deal.

Oh the tyranny of mis-capitalizing the word english. What a horrible world we'd be subjected to if people didn't capitalize correctly in insignificant situations. ... It's in internet forum. Who cares about perfect grammar. No one is getting stupider because someone didn't capitalize english. Cancer is cancer. Snazzy called him a cancer, whether it be locker room cancer or whatever else there is relating to a team. Sorry, I guess I missed that day my semantics and insignificant differences class.

Franzen Datsyuk and Z with 30+ goals, and I just have a feeling that Chitown will win the division.

W're not going to be as good as we were last year or even the year before. Such is the cap. It's finally catching up to the red wings.

I remember Cleary Flip and Pav really clicking in the middle of the 07-08 season, so I think that would be a good alternate line and then have Franzen Z Hudler as well. But those should only be the second set of lines and ZDH should be together with Franzen and Flip together.

If you nit pick about grammar you pretty much suck anyway...

You cry strawman and then say I said the franzen signing is s***? I love Franzen, he's awesome, but I'd rather have Hossa. That makes me a bandwagon fan?

^ Nah, if he was that old he'd be smarter.