Z and D for the C

Yeah it's a shame that that doesn't answer my question.

Wow man, like, I'm totally surprised you don't have a response to that.

Okay, so where is the logic in not combining them? Why can't they be combined? Are they not the same thing?

YEAH MIKE HOW ON EARTH AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO EVA'S ORDER. IT'S THE END ALL BE ALL Again, shootouts and penalty shots are the exact same scenario. you're just even more pissy than normal that Flip has better statistics in this regard than you thought.

43% on 1 vs goalie. Shoot outs are 1 vs goalie. It's relevant. Sorry your point isn't strong anymore.

Not to mention Filppula is 2 for 2 on penalty shots, I believe. So really, he's 3 for 7. 43%

Cleary is 0 for 4 this season genius. Prior to this game Flip #2 on the team of players who have more than 1 attempt.

I don't know his career numbers in the shootout, but he's only 33% this season. That's 4th on the team. Maybe you're thinking of Zetterberg?

No, we're even with Calgary but they played one more game than us so we keep 8th.

That he is better in the shootout than all of them?

Obviously you don't remember Filppula's last clutch goal in the shootout that kept us alive.

Glad to get a point.

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Neither of them have played together for their entire career.

I'm just saying, but I knew they were going to score.

No 8th spot for Calgayry.

Oh. My. GAWD.

We need one of Franzen's crazy individual effort goals.

I'd support Filppula on the PP just if it meant you killing yourself. Name one person you'd put on the PP over Flip. He's not even the lest good player on the PP.

Filppula has been setting up Z all over the ice.

babcock is much too cool to talk during timeouts.

Because I'm a vocal Filppula supporter and I have a Filppula avatar? Tell me if I'm close.

Yes. (Maybe not better, but at least equal) One big thing I think Filppula needs to do is just slow down, he always just seems sort of frantic out there. Generally when people think of Hudler's passing skills it's squeaking one through the slot on the PP (this is the impression I'm under, anyway). Once Filppula learns to slow down the game I think that he can do the same.

Their offensive production is equal (though huddles has a better shot/scores more goals), Filppula better everything else.

What do you mean by that? And as for the PP thing, you have to obviously take the argument with a grain of salt, but Hudler's Points per Minute on the PP was .11 last year, this year Flip's is .08, but he's playing with vastly less skilled teammates on the PP. Last year Hudler was with Zetterberg/Hossa/Franzen, this year Flip is playing with Cleary/Bertuzzi on the PP. Is this the end-all-be-all? No, but you can absolutely make the argument that Flip is just as good as Hudler is offensively. Now if Hudler had Flip's size and speed maybe it would be different, but Hudler doesn't have Flip's size or speed. I think that Hudler has a better shot than Filppula, but everything else is either even or +Flip.

So....losses.