Z and D for the C

I don't know why babcock is stuck on having 4 scrubs surrounded by 2 talented centers.

We're the red wings. We're the ******* all stars. We don't need to want.

Big defensive play by Ericsson.

Incredible shot. CHANGE THE LINES

I actually didn't watch the first period. But one shift doesn't really mean anything.

That's because the other line are horribly put together.

WHAT?!?!?!?!

I don't think they ever have in our history. We've never had 10 straight wins.

Can't wait. Should be a good game.

I guess there are rumors that he might. And I thought we'd have more cap space than that.

gcom, I completely agree with everything you said in that post. You can even find posts of mine from last year calling Hossa one of (if the the) best back checkers in the league. He's a spectacular, spectacular player. I think he was MADE for the red wings. But what it really, honest to god comes down to (I'm being as objective and reasonable here, I really am), is the fact that I don't think Datsyuk and Zetterberg should be split up. It has nothing to do with Filppula. And I've always said that, I just don't think our team as as good when they're apart. If you trade Flip, then you have no choice but to split them up and I just don't think that's best. And you won't find a second line center better than Flip for less money who isn't on an entry level contract (even the same money, IMO, but there my bias comes in I'm sure).

Hossa is undoubtedly the better back checker, but in the defensive zone I'd say they're the same. and gcom, let me say that the only other red wing I liked as much as Flip last year was Hossa. And this thread seems to be turning into a "Who is better" thread. There is no doubt that Hossa is twice the player Filppula is. It's stupid to argue. And frankly, this is just a stupid thread. It comes down to a personal opinion that can't be argued.

Werd So....maybe.....he's not overpaid?

Yeah man, it's just kind of weird...

I was just kidding. I really only got excited at the prospect of calling you EasyBakeOven.

Every time I see EasyBakeOven's posts I get scared that some alter-ego came out and is posting hateful things about Filppula and then I proceed to die a little bit on the inside.

Okay...I know I'm crazy and all that and I apologize in advance.... But put Cleary on the list and not Filppula? Not that it would be either of them...but I'm just just saying... Howard, obviously. Though he hasn't looked great these last few games.

No one thinks that Hossa is not a much better Player than Flip. Hossa is an incredible and elite player. Filppula is good, but he'll never be Hossa. For me, I don't think it's so much Filppula verus Hossa, it's center versus winger.

Then why elect arbitration?

Okay, I rounded the number. And honestly I'm not sure who to go after, the FA market this summer (for forwards anyway) doesn't seem that great. If we could sign anyone I would take Marleau. I like your avatar.

Yeah I do too, in fact I think he should be centering it now. I was just showing the options we have.

Hey I'm not saying he wouldn't. He'd be great to have, but I'd rather spend his money on someone proven on the second line at even strength. You know, like Filppula or Cleary, except better. Zetterberg Datsyuk Holmstrom (I think he still has a lot to give and should be resigned for cheap) Franzen Filppula FA Cleary FA FA Eaves Helm Draper And I'm not even sure if we have the cap space, but if we do I'd rather go for a big(ish) name.

Oh wow, a no goal call actually went in our favor.

+1 I think we can add his goal to the category that screams finishing ability.

Hopefully Hudler. Not that I hate Hudler, but I'd rather spend 5 million on a bonafide top 6er than 3 million on someone who hasn't proven himself in the top 6.