WingsAreSoft

This is a random post from a Blues fan lurker, but I had to post it on here because I'd get ridiculed on a Blues forum. Datsyuk is absolutely incredible. It's a pleasure to watch that guy play hockey.

I never once talked trash about anyone of the Wings. All I did was make a case for how underrated Jackman is as a hockey player and as a standup guy, and the responses were something along the lines of "I don't care...Jackman's face resembles a Croat's ****** and he's a s***bag *****." Is that accurate? And of course everyone with half a brain would take Zetterberg over Jackman. I obviously don't root for them, but I love watching Zetterberg and Datsyuk when they come to town because they are magicians on the ice. As for the Blues history, sure, we can't really talk trash based on our history of Cups, but we are the most colorful team of the expansion era, filled with countless (and future) Hall of Fame players, coaches, and broadcasters. 25 consecutive playoff berths ain't too shabby. And let's not forget the Blues still have a better record than the Wings in the regular season. No Cup is the one blemish, but b/c of all the pain Blues fans have been through, when (ok..IF) we win the Holy Grail, it will be that much sweeter. I kind of like it like that anyway in a sick way. So i take back the "loser" comment. Peace out Wings fans. Go Jackman!

Ha. OK, clearly you guys don't want to have a legitimate conversation. Cya tomorrow night losers.

He didn't "go after" Lucic dummy. Lucic slammed him into the boards and Lucic already pissed off the Blues when he railed McKee from behind as I explained earlier. You make it sound like Jax was looking for a fight and he in turn looked like an ass cause he got killed. But you obviously didn't see the game. Don't let the facts get in your way though. So Matt Cooke isn't a ***** but Jackman is?? Right. Cooke is one of the dirtiest players in the Western Conference. I saw it firsthand in the '03 playoffs. He also tried to run over Sanford in a game last year and he turtled as Brewer beat the s*** out of him. And as for your last point, I would think your goal is to win the Cup. Winning 2 round don't mean much when you ice the kind of teams the Wings do on a yearly place. Even with the rule changes, have an element of physicality and toughness will always be essential to win 4 rounds. in the playoffs. Considering most Wings agree that sentiment, sounds like your just being argumentative for no reason. That's MY 2 cents.

Actually you don't hear the "Lets go Wings" chant anymore in STL because as I predicted, as soon as the Wings stopped winning Cups at an alarming rate, the bandwagon fell off the road. At the old Arena you NEVER saw more than a handful of Wings fans....and it stayed that way at the Kiel until the Wings starting winning Cups. There was just a smattering of Wings fans on Thursday and it's been that way for 3 years now. Sorry, that's the truth.

I don't expect you to agree that Jackman deserved the Calder because you are, alas, a Red Wing fan, but your other portion of your rant is pretty ignorant don't you think? I never said he was a MacInnis or Pronger, but if Jackman sucks as much as you say, why do fans of other teams always clamor for him when trade possibilities are discussed on HF Boards? Why was he only the 8th defenseman in NHL history to win the Calder? The answer is simple. He doesn't suck and you know it. You can hate him cause he plays for the Blues and he has a style that might drive fans of other teams up a wall, but unlike homos like Matt Cooke, Tootoo, etc, you would take Jackman on your team anyday. Further proving how good he is, how many people wrote him off after all the rule changes? He was the prototypical "clutch and grab" defenseman and would never survive a skating game was the argument. Yea, didn't think so. After suffering through a bad 2005-05 season, he adjusted his game and his skating and puck moving ability have improved exponentially. Again, I'm sure you don't care about any of this, but I'm just proving to you that no matter your personal feelings toward him, Jackman is a great defenseman. If the Blues make the huge mistake and don't sign him he will get 4 million/year minimum on the FA market. And I didn't intentionally "rub in" anything regarding the physical aspect of the Wings. I know Detroit fans have wanted management to improve the toughness of the roster for years now. But the fact remains that smart coaches are going to exploit the one weakness that the Wings have. That's just the way it is until your usually savvy front office deals with the situation.

Actually, early in the game, Lucic smashed McKee from behind on a brutal board and he was running around the whole game. Lucic smashed Jackman, but that fight was more about Jackman sticking up for McKee. You guys can ***** about Jackman all you want, but the guy usually answers the bell unlike most agitators in the league. He's also a terrific defenseman which I know you guys will never admit cause you're still bitter about his Calder victory over Zetterberg. But in regards to his fighting, Blues fans like me, in fact, think Jackman fights too much. He's been hurt in a couple of fights cause admittedly he is a really bad fighter. But he's not a *****....sorry. Just because the Wings have no one to stand up for their stars, don't blame Jackman and Co. when they try and rough up Zetterberg, Datsyuk and Co.