ManLuv4Clears

I'm interested as to why you feel the need to resort to childish name calling to the OP. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Is it because you don't agree with his 2010 finanls predicition, or is it because he didn't pick the Wings?

Well played, I'd hire you as an arm-chair GM anyday.

Perhaps you should apply for the Ranger's GM job, because you are clearly more qualified than he is.

I was just impresseed with him being able to hold his own with a top heavy, is this one better? name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>&"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /> Or this: name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>&"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" />

I think he's signed thru next year, he just wanted a reference of guys who make under $1MM that could fill that role.

The below are to name a few that fit the mold I was referring to who are all less than 30 years old and their 2008 salary: Colton Orr - $550K Milan Lucic - $585K Maxim Lapierre - $562.5K David Clarkson - $555K Brian McGrattan - $550K There are more out there, but I'm tired of looking them up. And thank you YoungGuns for the help:

So now everyone that makes less than $1MM takes stupid penalties?? I'm one for a Dallas Drake type player than can hit, grind, fight, and hold his own on defense. The occasional point won't hurt, that's what fourth liners are for. There are plenty out there that fit this mold. BTW, this is the same Drake that you commended in an earlier post, and the same Drake that made <$1MM last year. I'm sorry it's so confusing for you.

Are there a lot of 40 goal 4th liners out there ready to sign for less than $1MM?

Dallas Drake didn't hurt the cause.

Thanks dude, I needed that.

There it is.

Good call, how about a 4th line: Abby - Helm - Orr

Can't argue that.

Colton Orr. < $1MM, please. Thank you. name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object> &"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object> &" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> &"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> &" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /> :beerbuddy:

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I agree that he would produce on a scoring line, there's no argument there. I just feel if he's making public statements like that it could cause a cancerous locker room environment. He should have the attitude that he has to work for his spot just like everyone else on the team does.

Abs played fourth line minutes as well and he wiped the floor with Leino. I suppose Babs should dedicate a locker to Leino this summer without him even having to go to training camp. I'm glad you have the same entitledment attitude that Ville has, it will not only get you far with your teammates but life in general.

All good except for Leino's attitude. There's no argument whether he's a good player or not, but I hope his disappearing act in the games he played in the playoffs didn't go unnoticed. Now Bab's is just supposed to give him a roster spot over Abdelkader. Okay Ville, I just hope you can back it up.

I raise my glass to you Lils, get better sir.

Spot on. The whole rule interpretation is starting to kill me, what is a penalty in one game is not the next. One of the many reasons that the NHL will be ranked in popularity behind the NBA, NFL, MLB, NASCAR, CFB, and CBB in the US. Edit: Add WWE to that list: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_professio...k_in_popularity

I'm with you, I'm not one to ***** about Babcock's coaching moves, but I really questioned this one. Players like Abby and the role he's playing can be keys to winning playoff games.

Is there seriously a thread devoted to what I just saw on YouTube? That was nothing but agitation, take off the Red Wing blinders and for God sakes understand that this is a tough contact sport and s***'s like that is going to happen. Fans on these boards scare me sometimes.

I'm sold: Can Score: Hold his own:

I love you Dan Cleary..... don't tell my gf.

I'll trust your opinion on this as you are on the east coast and probably have the pleasure or lack there of, of dealing with these types on a regular basis.