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Seems pretty straight forward. http://redwings.nhl.com/team/app/?service=...ge&id=11966 I went to http://redwings.nhl.com/index.html scrolled to the bottom of the page and clicked on the Interships link. There is also a link to NHL jobs in the same area, titled Employment. http://hockeyjobs.nhl.com/teamwork/jobs/jo...y.cfm?s=detroit

I'd sell them.

Honorable? What are you talking about? Do you even know how the Wings got Federov?

egroen now has 8 numbers. That's the box I'm talking about.

All it takes is a half-hour each day to look after your groin, and we got a professional group. - Mike Babcock

I disagree. Osgood is steadily climbing up the league and Red Wings' all-time stat sheets. I like both players and would be fine if both have their numbers retired, but I don't want to see it snowball. The day Shanahan's number gets retired would be a dark day.

The box of retiring the ones that require an arguement. Osgood now. Whoever else down the line.

Yes, but he didn't play his best years here. I'm on the fence. Federov was a great player in Detroit but I do see the box that retiring his number would open. Of the guys you listed I think Federov is the most deserving. As for Vladimir, I like the unofficial retirement of his number, similar to #6.

As opposed to Quincey, who apparently was trying to learn how to fight which helps his defensive game.

no

Who is removed from the roster?

Of course Chelios is on LTI. Why wouldn't he be? He has a broken leg and will be out more that 21 days. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...ut_six_wee.html That's what I said. But Chelios isn't coming back now, so Chelios signing didn't really have anything to with Kyle Quincey being waived NOW.

Terrible news.

With Chelios on the long term injury list he is neither taking a roster spot nor counting again the cap. So I don't see how having Chelios under contract had any affect on this decision.

I think that was his point.

Of course he said that. He's the leader on this team. What do you expect him to say? "Who's Downey? Is that the guy that only plays 5 minutes a game when he dresses and doesn't contribute anything except taking penalties?" That's a totally unfounded assertion. It's like me saying that if every team got rid of their goons and enforcers then injuries will be eliminated. It's ridiculous. Yes, Downey needs to get 6 shift to stop all the Wings from getting run. It's nice of you to share your "hockey" resume, but I ask, did you play in the NHL? My uncle's cousin's niece's mother's dad played hockey and he said that two goons slugging it out at center ice didn't really make anyone feels safer. If you need to see 3 fights a game and some sloppy hockey, go to a Whalers game. The NHL has changed, and an enforcers role has been minimized significantly. Downey is being handled perfectly by this team.

Downey was in the lineup when Laperriere hurt Lidstom last year. So much for deterrence.

They are on the team in the same capacity as they were last season. It's not like they were both released.

Game 6 roster. Which 2 were the enforcers again? 3 D ANDREAS LILJA 5 D NICKLAS LIDSTROM © 11 R DANIEL CLEARY 13 C PAVEL DATSYUK (A) 17 R DALLAS DRAKE 18 L KIRK MALTBY 22 D BRETT LEBDA 23 D BRAD STUART 26 C JIRI HUDLER 28 D BRIAN RAFALSKI 33 C KRIS DRAPER 37 R MIKAEL SAMUELSSON 40 L HENRIK ZETTERBERG (A) 43 C DARREN HELM 51 C VALTTERI FILPPULA 55 D NIKLAS KRONVALL 93 C JOHAN FRANZEN 96 L TOMAS HOLMSTROM 30 G CHRIS OSGOOD 39 G DOMINIK HASEK

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